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Will The Central Government Ever Stop Pushing Hindi On Tamil Nadu ?

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Minion, Oct 18, 2020.

  1. Agathinai

    Agathinai Gold IL'ite

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    Sanskrit will die if we don’t encourage it. I don’t know Hindi or Sanskrit but I wouldn’t want the latter to suffer. Our culture is based on religion and Vedas play an important role in it. Vedas, Hindu slogas and scriptures are all in Sanskrit and translated into regional language for the convenience of the common people like me to recite. But we cannot let it die and it needs some fraction of the people who are continuing the spread of Vedas by giving some financial renumeration for them. Otherwise the language will die. The other regional languages have been in circulation and will not disappear to the extent of Sanskrit. I would prefer to have learnt Sanskrit in school instead of Hindi because I have desire to study that language than Hindi. Too late to regret as I have crossed those years and now have many other issues to tackle than to learn Sanskrit. I don’t know how many people will agree to this logic but I feel Sanskrit should be saved to whatever extent possible. Mahaperiyava played an important role in encouraging the learning of Sanskrit and the Vedas.
    Paramacharya on Sanskrit – Tamil and Vedas
     
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    Hopikrishnan Silver IL'ite

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    Be happy to know that many primary books are on the internet. Here is something from SabdhaManjari that many would recognize. Some footnotes are in English.
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  3. Minion

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    So you are saying that it is fine if we ignore other languages and keep allocating huge amount of tax payer money to one single language?
     
  4. Thyagarajan

    Thyagarajan IL Hall of Fame

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    For all north indians people from kerala, chennai, karnataka and telengana Andhra all one and the same "kala madrasi". You know its origins. During Britishers time all southern states were under one name called " The Madras Presidency".
     
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    Laks09 Moderator Staff Member IL Hall of Fame

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    @Agathinai -
    643 crores is a lot of money. Something for the language is understandable. When there is a budget surplus then allocation of funds for Sanskrit makes sense. We are not in a budget surplus. Lots of things can be accomplished with 643 crores. A part of the government schools can be funded to get the people who need it out of poverty - give them some real education.
    I don’t think anyone has a problem with Sanskrit getting funds. It’s the excess spending for it that is being questioned. A fraction of that money is good enough for the upkeep of the language so it truly doesn’t become extinct.

    There are WhatsApp Sanskrit classes these days. I’ve seen versions in Telugu and Malayalam. Should be available in Tamil. Do look into it. There is no end date to learning a language. When we were taught it was the Devanagari script so Hindi came in handy but private tutors on WhatsApp are teaching it in all languages(using the local language script).
     
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  6. Agathinai

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    Yes, I agree.

    Yes, I agree on this as well.

    But I am entirely not sure about the funding and whether it actually reaches the intended purposes. In India budgeting and allocation of funds are on papers only and all the humdrum settles after a while. No one goes around and checks whether the funds actually benefited the programs and that it was successful. Often in the names of such funding they just goes into the politicians pockets.
    My answer was basically that Sanskrit does need help. A fraction or whichever amount is essential. I don’t follow the budgets but from the extensively corrupted governments I don’t think the money reaches any intended projects there.

    Same goes for the government schools funding. It is in a pathetic state with lack of infrastructure, teachers and in these circumstances they want to change too much. The teachers not only are short but they face multiple challenges. If indeed all the allocated funds reach their intended destinations - we wouldn’t be hearing about the corruptions at all. I don’t want to go into that. But the fact is we cannot just go by what the government says. We need to find the ground reality and that will tell the funds have already drained before they even hit the required destination/targets.

    I read this and all these and much more are the current status of public schools in India.
    https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www...e-than-150-lakh-primary-school-teachers-46354
     
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  7. Agathinai

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    Yes, that’s all possible for basic learning purposes or even more than that. But that’s handy for all who cannot have access. It would help many nowadays. But that doesn’t replace for children whose families are wishing to get their kids into the studying of Vedas and other things related to Hinduism. I was saying that Sanskrit should be accessible till they become proficient for those whose jobs are related to spreading of the religious activities. It should never be left out.
     
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  8. Agathinai

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    If indeed what the government had been saying or been allocating all the budget money to this language and it eventually happens-we are actually living a dream. I don’t believe in such dreams and I don’t believe what the government is saying is so truthful. Take everything with a pinch of salt what they say in budgets. I never said to ignore local languages either.

    I never meant that other languages should suffer and I for one don’t believe in any language imposition which includes Hindi. All I want to say is don’t ever go by what is said but go by what is the ground reality.

    We need to focus on what the bigger issues are and focus the fight. If we need more budgeting for our language then we can argue that. But that doesn’t mean that Sanskrit should be laid on par with local languages, as there will lesser financial remuneration for kids to pursue different pathways. Otherwise everyone will just follow the mainstream way of studying and that has already destroyed that language. Let us atleast give some support for a language which is closely related to our culture even if I am not able to read, write or understand it. It in no way is going to mean that I will forget my mother tongue.

    It’s like a mother - who will shower more love and her attention towards one kid who needs more attention than the other. It doesn’t mean she doesn’t love her other kids. It just means that there will be more attention for the kid who needs more help. This is my personal experience. I focused attention on one kid and my other kid doesn’t realise that I am trying to improve some aspects. I love my kids same way without bias but sometimes it’s difficult for them to understand when time is spent differently.

    Same goes for languages; all languages have survived basically because we are using it on day to day basis. Hindi imposition will be more harmful to those languages and Sanskrit shouldn’t be clubbed into that. Sanskrit needs our help. No other country is going to come to help Sanskrit if we Indians forget it in our home country.

    So I will rest my case here regarding Sanskrit.
    The Sad State Of Sanskrit Scholarship In India
     
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    I think Tamil is a beautiful language. Rest of India should be encouraged to learn it.

    If Punjabis can go out to eat Dosas, Idli, Sambar, certainly they can appreciate and speak Tamil.

    My two cents.
     
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  10. Thyagarajan

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    :hello:I happen to sit with a CEO - a Santhanam sporting on forehead the bright Iyengar emblem. A sardarji entered the chamber in his hands holding a beautiful bouquet . Advancing bouquet into the hands of S, in good Tamil he said, “ pongal vizha vazhthukkal “ (happy golden jubilee).

    I was perplexed. ceo stood up, as the sardarji was leaving. He saw him to the lift and returned. He could read surprise in my eyes. He explained that was his son in law and that her daughter and son in law met in Harvard and married. For love language, culture are not barriers. Yes love is blind.
    Thanks and Regards.
     

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