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Discussion in 'Married Life' started by Naksh, Apr 16, 2010.

  1. Naksh

    Naksh Platinum IL'ite

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    I said (when in India for delivery), lets not waste the time that we get alone in arguing as to why i cannot stay and etc..., instead enjoy the time. ofocurse we did have good time daily except for the first few mins when i arrive and the last few mins when am about leave.

    Edit: Also, I should say that she never asks for anything at all. She is very adjusting.
     
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  2. Vidya21

    Vidya21 Senior IL'ite

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    Why do you go "...mmhhmm" in the first place?! Last I knew, it was used to steer buffaloes off a street when they were creating a roadblock. :crazy

    Oh well.

    If you're going to go and undermine what she is feeling by calling it "petty stuff", or tell her how you "want her to feel", she is pretty much going to be angry and resentful.

    Tell her in a calm, sincere voice, something along the lines of: "I realize you were hurt because of something I did. If I could go back and change it, I would, because your happiness matters to me. But it makes me feel pretty helpless to do something about the past right now in the present. It hurts me to see you cry, etc etc... so could you please not bring it up again? I miss my cheerful wife."

    (Isn't that pretty much what you want to say to her: That don't bring up the past mistakes because it hurts both of you, you're sorry about the past but it can't be helped or changed now, and you just want her to stop crying about it now and go back to her old self?)

    Why does she begin to cry though? Is she showing signs of depression or something? I understand you both just had a baby?
     
  3. ShilpaMa

    ShilpaMa IL Hall of Fame

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    Naksh, I might try to give a few of my experiences here..
    I dwelt in past about the lack of vacations as long as I dint have enough memories of the present.

    Till 1.5 yr we dint go out anywhere due to one or the other reason and I also felt where there's a will.. there's a way... and that there was simply a lack of it.......... when I told this to him, we actioned out.. and we were on wheels .. there was a warm up phase and then we reached a never ending phase. almost every weekend we were untraceable and the maid simply adored us for it.. until babies came & yes post babies its a taxing affair to have a peaceful vacation. However the sweet memories I have from those 2 yrs have lasted for a long time.

    So dwelling in past is not always bad... if past was good you'll have a good aftertaste and a long way to go. Even for cases when the present becomes too sweet, some people love to get the bitter feelings of past.. finally.. "Meetha aur Pyaar zyaada ho jaaye to hazam nahin hota :crazy"!!!

    I really dont see you finding a reason to feel upset.. if everything that happened was situational then the feelings she got was also situational which you cant change just like that situation... hence instead of feeling it as hell breaking loose or a personal attack to your self esteem.. why not join her wagon and tell her... YES I ALSO FELT things dint go right and waiting for a time machine to go back and fix it.
     
  4. Naksh

    Naksh Platinum IL'ite

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    Vidya. No ,that was just to show how tender and sensitive she is. LOL i defeinetely am not goign to go '...mmhhmm' LOL

    Know what Vidya. This is exactly what I have told and been telling her in my own way, btu the essense remains the same. Except that i dint add the sentence i highlighted in your version.

    ""I realize you were hurt because of something I did. If I could go back and change it, I would, because your happiness matters to me. But it makes me feel pretty helpless to do something about the past right now in the present. It hurts me to see you cry, etc etc... so could you please not bring it up again? I miss my cheerful wife."

    Here lets check my version out too, so you can see, if I really want her to feel the way i want her to.

    "S, What has happened has happened. It was neither your fault nor mine. I cannot do anything about it now except for saying 'Sorry'. I can do anything possible to make things fine only if i could turn back time. If you have any thing your mind that you think could help ease form this, i would definetely do it without any questions asked. It hurts to see you cry and it hurts even more when i dont know how to ease your pain. And this helplessness (that am not able to help you), in turn leads to anger. I want my wife that i left off at the airport before dleivery back, this is not her. I could sense a smiling rose, upon her thoughts, but when you are like this all I can picture is 'A bunch of angry ladies (with frowned eyebrows), fighting over water at local water pump'."

    Well, see that? was that good enough? atleast chaltha?

    Now i repeat the same story everytime this comes up, and each time i think i was able to convinve her and feel satisfied and when it comes up again? How many times can a person keep telling this tell me Vidya? whats the use of me telling this? last time i added a couple more lines to what i said above those are below,

    In addition to what i said above, it ended with "OK. You re hurt. I am hurt. What next? What are we going to do about it? when there is hurt and resentment inside there is no space for love (i think i went a bit dramatic here). Lets not live with haste. Its either stay together with love or seperate. You have so many complaints, so and so much hurt and hatred (only when this thing comes up), that its better that we go our own seperate ways. But please know that, i will be standing in the same position in the relation where am, i will always love you, when if at all you think you forgot what has happened, am here to welcome you. We love each other very much.In the quest of fault finding, we forget all the little things we do for each other for each other's sake. So lets do this, lets stay seperate for some time, no body form our families needs to know this. you can stay with a frend of mine for soem time, depends on how long we can hold on without'

    For this answer was (am sure with watery eyes, can say it form her voice), 'You dont like me, you are fed up with me, you were not like this before, i cannot bear it if i see your love goign down even by a tiny bit. Instead send me away. i will go home.'

    Okay i wrote volumes here, now before i start boring you guys, just that i felt a need to bear it out or i iwll go mad.

    Hey how can i forget this, there is also one pathetic peice of crap that i said in addition to the above ones. I said 'if we are gogin to go like this, am sure some day i will kill myself or will kill you' - hell no, i dint mean that. that was just out of frustration, I dont want to be stagnated. When my solutions are not appealing to you, tell me yours.

    comming to her crying, Vidya trust me, i would love to know the reason too. I think its her favourtie pasttime.
     
  5. Naksh

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    Good to hear from you Shilpa.

    Yes I could have doen a better job taking her out. Yes there could have been many memories. But are we both going to be there in those memories? no, those would be only of the places that we visited and stuff. Being at home, we had so many memories, whose crx is 'US'.
    well, am not trying to say staying home is better. but this used to be my logic (i am the person that likes to spend weekends home with wife, movie, smoke and drink. hence ihave formulated that logic of mine i guess)

    But on a positive note we could think like that , cannot we? She contradicts herself. She says those initial five or four months after marriage (until time was for her to go to India for delivery, she was 4.5 months pregno then) was 'Paradise' and yet says, time once gone will never come back. if we are not gogin to go visit places, then we iwll never (whats that hurry? why can we never go? ) also, i should mention that she is not interested in visitng places , but in visiting place with 'me'.

    Shilpa, she is confused, when we go out, she is like ohh God, weekend is passing by without us being together.

    As for me feeling upset Shilpa. Basically am not. I dont mind her getting at me with those. But she goes silent and no ttalk - thats what i say 'hell' is. Whole house is silent, i could hear the kid next door crunchin on his chips This is what gets me upset.

    People, thanks for bearing, going forward there will not be these volumes, cuz i gave evyrthing out. So trust me when i say this will not go on and on likle a mega serial :rotfl

    Also, Vidya, yes. We have a six month old baby at home. We are happy all the time, only that when this comes up, this will linger for sometime . thats all and we are fine in 15 - 30 mins or so. But i feel like this is hiding things under carpet.
     
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  6. Naksh

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    Please tell me if you see something, am not.
     
  7. sabiramy

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    Dear Naksh,

    I have been reading about your issues, and I am sorry that things have turned out this way. My comments may not be as valuable as of those from others with much more experience, nonetheless, give it a read.

    Personally, I think - as much as you portray about your intentions to make this relationship work, you sound more like wanting to escape from the predicaments of your marriage life. If you are willing, try to understand her problems from her perspective.

    Out of many things that might ruin a marital relationship - I think, based on what you have described so far, the following seems to be more prominent in your relationship. Petty fights, criticizing each other, verbal attacks, feeling of shame, temporary withdrawals and finally isolation from each other.

    The best way to try to overcome these is to have a will to make an effort. Spend more time with her and the baby and genuinely show that you care. You may not have to talk much but just be around. If possible, take some time off from work or come home early, go for a walk with her and take the baby with you too, talk to her more about the family and the dreams you have for your child and finally, reassure her a future together as a family. You may think that you do all of these already, perhaps its not enough.

    Further minor adjustments to your lifestyle may make time for your new born and your wife and this will definetely reassure your wife a healthy relationship. A young mother with a baby needs more attention and help at this time rather than hearing about separation from her husband.

    After all, your wife might just be right, if you have the will there will be a way.

    Good luck!
     
  8. ShilpaMa

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    Remember we generally get married to people of opposite logic and I can clearly read hers as - i am the person who likes to spend weekends outside home.

    whats that hurry? why can we never go?
    Actions speak louder than word... If you want to prove what you say then just go out and spend a vacation of her type... why wait for tomo to do something....... I can simply read that no one can convince you.. you know answers for all and everything and this personally shall force a person like me to stop discussing anything...

    I somewhere read.. when a woman complains about something it becomes the primary goal of the man to find a solution.. and fixing something of past is out of question...hence they feel helpless... however its sometimes just to vent out with a few tears that you need to just listen and get over with.

    i should mention that she is not interested in visitng places , but in visiting place with 'me'.Yes she's missed the phases of just YOU and ME.... HAND in HAND on a vacation.. you have a small package with you guys your son, movie, cigg, bottle etc etc, are you holding her hand and looking into her eyes in those vacations?

    There are plus and minus of each motherhood.. early motherhood.. not enough PERSONAL time.. late motherhood.. lot of questions on feminity. A lot many ladies felt lower attention post baby as it gets diverted to the child and its priority when you felt you were giving in your best.

    weekend is passing by without us being together.
    Yes you're with her on a weekend and still doing things that are of primary importance to you.. yes your carpet is raising day by day... I knew a colleague who was facing the same.. he left his infant under family care and went for a vacation with wife.. not sure how many can accept that.

    Hope I dint confuse you further.
     
  9. Naksh

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    Dear Abiramy. Thanks for your thoughts. Your suggestions and time you put in are defintely valuable.

    One thing's for sure Abiramy. Your comments have got me thinking or i should say they got me worried. No Abiramy our relation is not going down. And i know it will never go down. Your coments say that our relation is not going well. No ours is goign well, really. That 'delivery part' is the only fold that I have in my relation and that does not disturb us at all, provided like Shilpa said in her post, I try not to get all worked up to find solution and instead just listen. Will do that.

    Ptty fights - she's not of the fighting type. Isolation - No this will not happen. we dont like it if we are not talking to each other. We make up in a bit.

    Will definetely implement all your suggestions. Thanks Abiramy.
     
  10. Naksh

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    You din't confuse me further Shilpa. You and Abhiramy saw what i dint see.

    why wait for tomo to do something - i have been planning on saving for it for a couple of months now. Decided where to go and what to book (gathered all details, only waiting on funds to accumte). Out of the 'small' package that you mentioned, i will chose my wife and son for this vacation, will leave rest behind.

    no one can convince you - you are a pscychologist. I will be more broad (y? i want my carpet flat)

    What you read is true Shilpa. I am restless and helpless until i find a solution and thats the reason am here on this website. Got it. Will listen to it and do nothing.

    HAND in HAND on a vacation - hard task, when in public. Will work on doing it, i feel it looks awkward and explicit, but that may not be the case, might just be one of my assumptions.

    Thank You.
     
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