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Submission Of Original Documents For School Teacher Job

Discussion in 'Education & Personal Growth' started by Kukudukuu, Aug 30, 2017.

  1. Kukudukuu

    Kukudukuu Silver IL'ite

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    Dear ILs,

    I have now found a job in a reputed school. I have previous experience in an MNC. I have not submitted any of my documents previously, but the originals were verified and returned. Now, here in this school, I'm asked to deposit one of my documents, i.e., my 10th or graduation or post-graduation certificate with the school. Is this how it is done everywhere? I don't want to deposit the document. How do I tell them that I don't want to deposit yet maintain the decorum at the same time? Initially, should I postpone and later tell I will not submit or should I tell them outright?
     
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    hemavijay Senior IL'ite

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    Hi,
    Even one of my colleague's wife worded in a reputed school after marriage. when she wanted to resign on emergency reason they did not accept her resignation. upon insisting medical reason she was relieved but one of her original certificate was retained with the school. Then she was asked to pay 45000 to get back her certificate. This is atrocious really.
     
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    Kukudukuu Silver IL'ite

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    That's bad !
     
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    Kukudukuu Silver IL'ite

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    Anyone else has had any experience with certificates ?
     
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    sokanasanah IL Hall of Fame

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    I have heard of Indian universities indulging in this practice, including the extortion when the person involved decides to move elsewhere. I cannot believe that this is legal. Think about it: you cannot easily leave for another position, without your current employer becoming aware of it. You are completely in their grip. I don't know how prevalent the practice is, but perhaps they do it because employees renege on contracts when they are difficult to enforce. The clogged court systems make any legal redress difficult if not impossible, for both sides. That is the kindest explanation I can come up with. You can gently offer to provide notarized copies or consult with a lawyer to discover what the legal status of such a demand is under Indian employment law. Of course, this might mean that they withdraw the offer.
     
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  6. Kukudukuu

    Kukudukuu Silver IL'ite

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    Yes.. losing this offer is one of the possibilities. I don't want to miss out on the offer either. This is a very good and reputed school, and difficult to get a chance like this.
     
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    sokanasanah IL Hall of Fame

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    Then you might try appealing to their better instincts. Stress that you are loath to be party to something illegal, is this what we want to teach our children, we should all abide by the rule of law, etc., offer notarized copies - see if they say take it or leave it. After that, it's up to you.

    If you do decide to play along, then make notarized copies (not just copies) for yourself. That may buy you a little time later and save you some heartache. Don't forget that you have no recourse if they ever say that it was lost - due to incompetence or spite. Depending on how long it has been since you graduated, duplicates for these documents may be very difficult to obtain. I wouldn't do it if I were in your place (I detest the coercion), but then I don't live there, I don't know the pressures you are under, and I get the impression that the practice, illegal or not, is prevalent if not pervasive.

    Make discreet enquiries about how other well regarded schools do it. Of course, Indian bureaucracy being what it is, the school officals might just say "Well, if that other school is so wonderful, go there then!".:BangHead:
     
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    Kukudukuu Silver IL'ite

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    Thanks for the the detailed reply.
    So true. I will explore the option of notarized copies. Will see if it works. But submission of original documents is something I would never do.
     

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