Sathya bhakti - true devotion

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    Without a Poorna Guru-Satguru Naam is useless.
    Pandit Baad Badey So Jhutha.
    Ram Ke Kahai Jagat Gati Pavai, Khand Kahai Mukh Meetha.
    Pavak Kahai Paanth Jo Dahai, Jal Kahai Trisha Bujhayi.
    Bhojan Kahai Bhukh Jo Bhagai, To Duniya Tari Jayi.
    Nar Ke Sung Suwa Hari Bolai, Hari Partap Na Janai.
    Jo Kabhin Udi Jaye Jungle Mein, To Hari Surti Na Aanai.
    Binu Dekhe Binu Aras Paras Binu, Naam Liye Kya Hoyi.
    Dhan Ko Kahai Dhanik Jo Hovai, Nirdhan Rahai Na Koyi.
    Sanchi Preeti Vishaya Maya So, Hari Bhaktan Ki Phansi.
    Kah-hin Kabir Ek Naam Bhaje Binu, Bandhe Yam Puri Jas—
    Kabir Sahib

    If a devotee can attain salvation simply by reciting Ram-Ram, he can make his tongue sweet simply by saying sugar-sugar. But such a thing never happens. If reciting Jal-Jal could satisfy a devotee’s thirst; reciting Bread-Bread could satisfy his hunger; reciting Fire-Fire could produce fire, the whole of the world could certainly achieve salvation simply by reciting Ram-Ram and no jiva would have been here. But such a thing has not happend so far. Even a parrot can be taught to recite Ram-Ram but this doesn’t help it have a knowledge of Ram. And if that Parrot gets a chance to fly away to some forest, it forgets Ram-Ram after somtime. Reciting Naam without knowing and without experiencing doesn’t prove fruitful. If one could obtain wealth simply by reciting wealth-wealth, none would have been poor and none would have felt any need to labour for earning.

    Reciting sugar-sugar can’t make our mouth sweet but if someone puts sugar into our tongue, it will certainly taste sweet without requiring any hard labour on our part. All that is needed is to keep the tongue and the teeth active. Reciting Ram-Ram can’t help us realise Ram, but if some true Satguru awakens that Naam (Ram-Param Purush) within a devotee, the latter needn’t labour much. All that he has to do is to recite that Naam.
    Doing this much alone can help the devotee achieve salvation.
     
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    King Jannaka and Sukdevji
    Garbh Yogeshwar Guru Bina, Laga Hari Ki Sev.
    Kahain Kabir Vaikunth Te, Pheir Diya Shukdev.


    Shukdevji was a very enlightened soul. He had received the spiritual knowledge while he was in the womb of his mother. All his worship without the aid of a living Guru being proved to be of no avail. When he went to heaven, he was sent back by Vishnu who told him that he (Shukdev) couldn’t enter there as he hadn’t sought the shelter of some Guru.
    It is said that Shukdev was determined not to come out of the womb of his mother. The wife of Vyasdevji was in great trouble. She prayed to the gods. Then all the gods requested Shukdevji to come out of the womb or else his mother would die. Nevertheless, the Muni knew that the world was a place of sorrows and sufferings, so he refused to come out. It was only after great persuations that he agreed to (be born) come out. When such an enlightened soul couldn’t find any place in heaven, what will be the fate of normal beings who don’t seek the shelter of any Guru.
    Finally Sukdevji took Jannak Maharaj as his Guru, who was an Expert in Unmani Mudhra
    :coffee
     
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    Kabir Sahibji reminds jiva of the days when he was hanging upside down in the womb of the mother. With head downward and feet upward, it suffered a lot. Then it prayed to God to take it out of the womb and assured Him that it would worship Him. However, after coming out, it got so much entangled in the worldly affairs that it totally forgot its assurance given. A jiva can realise the importance of salvation only if he doesn’t forget the pains it suffered in the womb of its mother. The pains and sufferings at this place are far greater that even the troubles and pains one can experience in Sapata Kumbhi hells (Seven pitchers filled with faeces, urine and other filthy materials presenting a hell like sight. Only the mere remembrance of these sufferings can make a jiva turn to the worship of Sahib right from the very begining.
    The pearls are there in the ocean, but only he who can dive and reach its depth can succeed in getting them. The others sitting on the back can’t hope to obtain them.
    Only such devotees as offer complete surrender before a Satguru and don’t fear death even can be able to realise the truth.
    :hiya
     
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    Man Hi Ahey Kal Karala| Jiv Nachaye Karey Behala||
    Jiv Ke Sang Man Kal Rahai| Agyaani Nar Janat Naahi||

    Atma has no necessity to steal, no need to be fraudulent or wicked. All these are impact of the body. All that which is done by the Mind are on account of body. Man performs action by the prompting of Mind. For the welfare and fulfillment of body, Mind engages men in all kind of activities. When its requirements are not met, Mind involves in bad actions. If its need are fulfilled, he may perform some good deeds. Mind will never permit man to work for the benefit of Atma, under any circumstances, it will drag only towards materialistic world.
    Therefore Sahibji says-
    'Tera bheri koi nahi, tera bheri maan|'
    Mind is the hindrance for attaining Atmic awareness. Atma takes to the direction of Mind. Knowledge will be of no use at the time of death. :coffee
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    TRUE WORSHIP
    After thousands of years of penance and austerities Rishis attained Purity and yet we hear their failings
    Parasar Rishi did Tapas for 1000 years , then compeled a young fisher girl for sex
    Kapil Rishi burned King sagars 1000 sons in a fit of rage
    Durvas cursed Krishnas family of Yadhvas 52 crors to die.
    Sringi Rishi married a prostitute after he made his body like a log thru austerities.
    Viswamitra tried to kill Vasistha
    Devendra went to Gowthama rishi's wife Ahalya
    Chandra abducted his Guru Bhrispati's wife Tara.......we can go on and on
    Even Arjuna told Krishna he cannot keep his Mind in control


    No doubts they followed scriptures than what?

    How can ordinary humans attain perfection in Kali Yuga and attain Moksha, all we get will be only bookish knowledge.

    KABIR SAHIB SAYS;
    Chousath Deeva Joyeke, Choudah Chanda Mahin.
    Tehi Ghar Kiska Chandna, Jihi Ghar Satguru Nahin.

    Even if one has the knowledge of 64 Kalaan (any field using the skills or techniques of art) and is expert in 14 phases of moon , he will be said to be wandering in darkness if he has not sought the shelter of a Satguru.
    Kanchan Meru Arapain, Arpain Kanak Bhandar.
    Kahain Kabir Guru Bemukhi, Kabhun Na Pavai Par.

    A devotee, even after giving away in charity gold equal in weight to Sumero Mountain, can’t cross the ocean of births and deaths if he disobeys his satguru.
    Guru Bin Mala Pheirte, Guru Bin Dete Daan.
    Guru Bin Daan Haram Hai, Puchho Ved Puran.

    All the Dharam Shastras bear witness to the fact that all our counting of beads and performing of acts of charity will go waste if we don’t seek the shelter of a Satguru.

    Kumti Keech Chela Bhara, Guru Gyan Jal Hoye.
    Janaam Janaam Ka Morcha, Pal Mein Darey Dhoye.

    A disciple is covered with the dirt of ignorance. A Real Satguru with his spiritual knowledge washes this dirt of ages together within moments.

    Guru Narayan Roop Hai, Guru Gyan Ko Ghat.
    Satguru Bachan Pratap Soun, Munn Ke Mitey Uchat.

    A Satguru is not an ordinary human being. Param Purush Himself descends on the earth in the form of Satguru to liberate the devotees. A Guru is a treasure house of knowledge. His holy sermons destroy the vices of the devotees.
     
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    IT IS A CHALLENGE TO FIND OUR WAY THROUGH SCRIPTURES SAFE AND SOUND.
    Veda Vyasa to Janamayjaya in Devi Puran;- On Adharma;
    O Best of kings! The Dharma S’âstras, Purânas and the Angas the Vedas are full of diverse opinions on any one point under consideration for their composers were under the influence of the different Gunas.
    VEDA VYASA ON KARMA OF GODS- DEVI PURAN
    O king! Everybody, even Brahmâ, Visnu and Mahes'a all under the influence of this Karma! And they experience pleasure, pain, old age, disease and death, joy and sorrow, lust, anger, greed and other bodily qualities, out of the effects of this Karma, which we call ordinarily Fate. Therefore love, hatred and other bodily qualities all predominate equally in all bodies. Anger, jealousy, hatred, and other similar qualities arise in the Devas, men, and birds owing to some sort of dislikes on previous occasions; and love, compassion, pity, etc., arise out of some sort of likings, existing already.

    Shivji to Parvathi in Guru Gita; Sakandha Puran ;-
    वे{शा|पुराणािन चेितहासाLदकािन च |मPं यPं XवrाLदिनमोहनोTचाटनाLदकम ् ||
    शैवशा0ागमाLदिन Y-ये च बहवो मताः |अप~शं ाः सम:तानां जीवाना ं ~ातं चते साम ् ||
    जप:तपोsतं तीथ\ यGो दानं तथैव च |गुH त.व ं अXवGाय सव \ /यथ \ भवेत ् X#य े ||
    The Vedas, the Shastras, Puranas, the Itihasas etc., the science of Mantras, Yantras Mohana, Uchatana etc., cults like the Shaiva, Agama, Shakta, etc., and other cults existing in the world today are merely false theories expressed in corrupted words which confuse the ignorant and deluded Jivas. Japa austerities, observances, pilgrimage sacrifice, charity - all these become a mere waste without understanding the Guru Tattva. (19, 20, 21)

    You are not the Meterial Body, You are not the formless Mind. You are Atma in this maya worlds, Hansa from the eternal world Amarlok.

    You are not the doer God is, Krishnaji tells Arjuna to give up the doership. Atma is the source of power only. Mind and Maya are the prison for Atma.
     
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    Param Purush is Love and Compassionate,real Father to all,Kal purush Plays with You and Binds you with Maya, Dharma and Karma, Pain and Pleasure, he is the Step Father to all.

    GREEDY AND EGOISTIC MIND, CREATION OF god NIRAKAR NIRANJAN

    Parampurush is Fearful of Ego; He is hidden because of your ego. He is the ocean of Love, He expects only Love. However, man contemplates seeking such a power with which he can subdue others. It is in the Nature of Parampurush to sacrifice everything. The one who has realised Parampurush with his Surti, whatever he says will be manifested. With your weapon, if someone kills your son what will be your reaction? You will not wish such things to happen. Similarly, Parampurush does not wish for such things to happen to other with the power received from him, because when all are his children who can be put to distress. Therefore, when you attain purity, you will offer yourself.
    A devotee did penance towards Brahma. Brahma being pleased asked him as to what is his wish. The devotee asked that whatever he will seek should be fulfilled. Brahmaji could understand the Greed of the devotee and the implications. He granted his wish saying that whatever he seeks, his neighbors shall get twice that. The devotee returned home and prayed, 'Oh God, bless me with a Golden House'. His neighbor got two houses. Then he prayed for a chariot of gold. His neighbor got two. The devotee got furious and disturbed. He prayed for a beautiful Cow, His Neighbor got two. Then he led a peaceful Life. The neighbor's wife began to taunt the wife of the devotee. Devotee got annoyed. He resolved to take satisfaction in the suffering of his neighbor. He prayed, 'Oh god take away one of my leg.' His neighbor lost both of his legs. Then he prayed, 'Oh Lord, take away one of my hand also.' He thought that he could carry on with one hand. His neighbor lost both of his hands. He further prayed, 'Oh God, take away one eye.' His neighbor lost both his eyes. The sense of hatred is so dangerous. Than the devotee prayed, 'Oh God, make a deep ditch in front of my house.' His neighbor has got on both side of his house. This way, he complicated his neighbor's house. For this very reason, Parampurush is hidden from the sight. So it is said:

    Mita De Apni Hasti Ko, Agar Kuch Martahba Chahey|
    Ki Dana Khaak Mey Mil Kar, Guley Gulzar Hota Hey||
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    mind And Maya Are One And The Same.
    Mind and Maya is one and the same in Jagrit awasta, Maya is present in the Mind. Therefore, there is confusion in all the three worlds, all are unable to comprehend this entanglement. Sahib says to whom all I have to explain-
    Man Maya Toh Ekhey, Maya Manhi Samaay|
    Tin Lok Sans Padhi, Kahey Kahu Samujay||

    Maya has emerged from Mind, from which Vishnu got Satwagun, Brahma has Rajogun and Shivji got Tamogun. These three are born to Maya (Adi Shakti) and Man (Kalniranjan). In reality, the five elements are Maya; with it the body was made out of it to bound Jivas. Maya is the power of attraction (Mohini Shakti) of Mind; to which human, muni, devtas, etc. are fascinated. Through the Maya, mind swallows every person of the three Lokas but nobody could eat Maya. Kabir Sahibji says-
    Maya Tey Man Upjey, Maya Trigun Roop|
    Paanch Tatva Key Mel Mey, Bandey Sakal Saroop||
    Maya Man Ki Mohini, Surr Nar Rahey Lubhaay||
    Ek Maya Sab Khahiya, Maya Koi Na Kaay||

    Mind is the universe (Mano moolam idam jagat) and the five elements are Maya. The created universe from the five elements is also Maya. In this body, only Mind remains with the Atma. Mind and Maya together robs everyone in this three worlds. Mind and Maya never dies nor does the desire and ambition. ....The one which dies repeatedly is only body. Everybody gives up the gross Maya of Wealth, Wife, Son, House etc. However, no one is able to give up the subtle Maya, which is in the form of Ego. Sahibji says that this Subtle Maya even eats up big Pir-Paigambar-Aoliya
     
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    ||Shri Satguru Ve Naamaha||
    Moksha Moolam Guru Krupa

    Mujhey Hai Kaam Satguru Se, Duniya Ruthey To Ruthan Dey||
    The essential truth lies in the surrender of disciple at the feet of Satguru. The ways of Sant is Sahaj Marg and it is on the principle of surrender to Satguru. Sahib says, you need not to do any Sadhana, Sadguru will liberate you.
    In the Yog-marg (Path of action), there is importance to observance of Yog- sadhana, it does not depend on the grace of Guru. In the Gyaana marg (Path of wisdom), the importance is attached to the wisdom but not to the Guru. In the Bhakti marg (Path of devotion), the importance is given for Bhakti, not for the grace of Guru. However in the Sant marg (Path of Sanths or Sahaj marg), the importance is given to grace of Satguru ('Moksha moolam, Guru Kripa'). In this path, Disciple surrenders to Satguru, and lives and attains liberation by his grace. All the work is accomplished by his grace. Sahibji says:

    Teen Lok Nav Khand Mey, Guru Se Bada Na Koi|
    Karta Kare Na Kar Sake, Guru Kare So Hoi||
    Satguru will do all that is needed. Sahibji's words bring out this truth to establish Gurutva.
    Kabir Hari Key Ruthatey, Guru Ki Sharani Jaay|
    Kahe Kabir Guru Ruthatey, Prabhu Nahi Hoth Sahay||
    Kabir Tey Nar Andh Hey, Guru Ko Kahatey Aaur|
    Hari Ruthey Guru Thaur Hey, Guru Ruhtey Nahi Thaur||

    Do you find such a statement anywhere else! Such importances were never given to Guru. If you move to the era of yog, there were fights and battles between Guru and his Disciple but the path of Sants says:
    Guru Gungey Guru Bavarey, Guru Key Rahiye Daas|
    Jo Guru Bhejey Narak Mey, To Rakhiye Swarg Ki Aas||

    .....Therefore the importance of surrender. Surrender is supreme. From whomevers protection you seek, they definately protect. Vibhishan took to the feet of Rama. In the battlefield, when Ravan sent a powerful arrow at vibhishan, Ramchandra came in the front and took it on himself. If you surrender to the feet of Satguru, he will protect you with his power. Then, you need not to put up a strruggle to save yourself.
    Jo Satguru Ki Sharan Ho Taki|Tehi Kuchh Yatan Rahey Nahi Baaki||
    Tatey Sharanagat Sab Parhey|Sharan Gahey Tey Jiv Ubarey||

    After surrendering, if he is struggling with his own effort, it means, he is yet to surrender. Surrender itself is a form of higher level of devotion. In surrender to your Satguru, all strength and wisdoms can be achieved automatically; all the accumulated sins will be destroyed. Sharanagati is a supreme sadhana.
    Sharanagat Kah Sab Gunn Aavey|Gyan Bhakti Tehi Mahi Samavey
    Sharan Ho Jab Yah Nishchay Aai|Prabhu Mohi Dono Sakal Sahai||
    Sakal Paap Tako Jari Javey|Jo Satguru Ki Sharan Mey Aavey||

    Satguru will accomplish all his work for those who surrender to the Satguru.
     
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    Hansa
    Four things are difficult to get early: Beauty, Supreme intellect, sweet voice and good character. Some are beautiful but not intelligent. Some are intelligent but does not have a good voice. Some does not have a good character. In all these, there is a beauty of individual, Hans are naturally very beautiful. Even Mahatmas suffix their name with Hans. Let us move towards their story, their characteristics cannot be observed even in humans. If the male partner dies among the Hans, the female Hans will not permit other male birds to even touch its body as long as it lives. This nature cannot be observed even among the Demi-Gods (Devas). The appearance of Hans is beautiful and it is white in color. It has beautiful eyes with a red lining. It is very lovely to see. Their habits are exceptional. It eats Pearls and keeps away from dirt. It is peaceful and confident. It does not behave irrationally.
     

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