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Discussion in 'Married Life' started by RadiantCat, Jul 3, 2010.

  1. ShilpaMa

    ShilpaMa IL Hall of Fame

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    CW I'll answer the following from what I've witnessed in my life and around:

    Men also want to live and explore their life, however are being constantly reminded of how thankless they're and how gud are those guys who're living in JF.. also a comparison that they're not doing anything in comparison to what they've done [all lies and cooked up stories which are proven false as they dont remain the same at next uttarance]

    I'll try to answer in terms of why Previous generation cant let go:
    1) They see their family friends or others in kitty parties whose sons are staying with them and feel they shud have it too.. COMPARISON.
    2) those who love to save pidly amounts on maids, electricity, maintenance etc.. find it a WASTAGE and trying to conserver mother earth's fast depleting resources :bonk.
    3) Some mothers have a superlative BONDING with their sons and almost reach a nervous wreck state if they dont see or feed them everyday.
    4) For some oldies its an ADRENAL rush when they gossip and CONTROL junior members of their family.
    5) In old age when all responsibilities are over they love GETTOGETHERS however the body gives up, hence they need a 24X7 backup.
    6) Yes they want to PAMPER the grandchildren & son and not to miss a single moment of their growing up phase which they might have missed in their young age where there was too much to do.
    7) Also they're totally scared of how to handle MEDICAL EMERGENCIES.

    All these thoughts are in background even for people who have lived full life as NF.. however as soon as their son gets married the above strikes...so its not always about money and finances.
     
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  2. 1janavi

    1janavi Bronze IL'ite

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    Peartree ,Thanks for a straight answer to my question.Deciding on JF or NF is ofcourse a case-by-case basis but there is something people unanimously agree depending on the majority on any given issue.
    Don't you think having a Nuclear family would be ideal for many families
    nowadays given the criteria to decide based on the majority.
    I would like to quote Canwait words which were precise and spoke my thoughts beautifully
    Also Peartree if shilpama,Canwait,Riya has suported NF based on their experience dont you think the fortunate ones also supporeted JF based on their experience and not because they had more tolerance.
    Canwait mentioned about MEN are a package because, again I feel that is what is more prevalant (based on majority).Situations like you said a mom staying in daughters house is present but tell me is that a scenario we come across often.
     
  3. RadiantCat

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    My question is not which is better JF / NF but why in the present day men don't want to set-up their family away from their parents. I had a chat with my friend yesterday. This guy's married and he's living with his parents. He says there's a tiff between his wife and his parents. I asked him why did he not consider living away from his parents. He says his parents want him to stay with them. I find this ridiculous. Parents by and large say they want their children to be happy. When happiness is destroyed because of emotional conflicts, why not live in smaller groups? Here the man has to be strong. I had a discussion with my family. What if my bro returns some day will he be living under this roof? I told my parents clearly let him rent out an apt and live separately. He has his family and life and he will be there for us when we need him.

    In the present day, most of our parents are well educated. They travel across boundaries, so why would this generation want to bind together.
     
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  4. 1janavi

    1janavi Bronze IL'ite

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    Iam sorry canwait for the confusion.Nowcoming to your actual question I think shilpama said it all in a hilarious yet very real...
    In my scenaio the first point is the reason.My inlaws always quote the relatives who takecare of inlaws and husbands too think these women are the ideal women with lots of tolerance and think that is the norm and expect that from wives.Sometimes these women give speeches to my husband how having old people in house is great knowing very well every household is different.They glorify everything so inlaws and hubby tend to get carried away and make me less good a person.
     
  5. Visu2k

    Visu2k Gold IL'ite

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    I would prefer a joint family like that in "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" where despite being poor, young Charlie's parents take care of his grand parents on either side happily. And yes, I agree with the argument that joint family suits well for certain situations and its benefits could only be realized by people with a mindset that accepts the concept.
     
  6. RadiantCat

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    I'd blame the political and societal set-up too. If the governments offer better retirement plans, I'm sure the apprehension about Medical emergencies will vanish. If the govt says people below certain income level at the time of retirement can opt to live in govt funded homes which will provide them with medical care, help, and food I guess 60% of the problems are solved. In the UK there are govt funded homes like 1 bedroom apts for the old people. NHS takes care of them. They are picked and dropped for medical tests and they get volunteers to help them. They get a pay for their monthly food bills and utilities are free. Now if this system exists in India, I think marriages that break because of in-laws can easily be averted. BTW they work till they are 65 and they pay NHS too. The lesser they have when they retire it is better for them. Now they are very able so they would not opt for this system until they really retire when they cannot do things by themselves.
     
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  7. Prettina

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    Re: Different Family systems - Your opinion please

    Hey Tugga dear,

    Am in the plan of applying for srilankan citizenship:biglaugh after reading your post:hide:

    Good way to be away from IL's in the name of system:)

    We shall recommend and start a poll in IL and forward to our PM not our project manager :biglaughour Prime Minister regarding re-evaluation of our Indian system:bonk

    Dont worry this will never happen in India our Appa (CM)will never allow to adopt this:biglaugh..

    They whole of srilankans are bold army people they fought for their nation so its not the great thing to fight with IL's...So this system of being with bride's family is all excuses...

    And my opinion is dont stick to any side grrom/bride...

    Live on your own and let live others :)
     
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    Re: Different Family systems - Your opinion please

    No Comments.
     
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  9. flowerlady

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    Hi Canwait , there is a very strong reason why joint families exist , it saves rent ! In some cases the entire household expenditure is borne by parents , the couples savings are pretty big ! The parents dont mind if they can afford it.
    Nowadays working couples prefer to have parents looking after the kids instead of strangers. And the parents enjoy it.
    The household is well looked by parents and the couple can go to work peacefully .
    Parents also love to have youngsters staying with them as they have company and are looked after in times of need.
    The grand kids enjoy living with grandparents .
    So one can say that both parents and the couples do get something out of this arrangement inspite of hiccups !
    Of course if the couples marriage is breaking because of the joint family then they should move out and visit parents .
    In India where family ties are strong old age homes , volunteers may not work.
    Would we like to be treated like this ??
    Would we like to put our parents in old age homes ??
    I woudnt.
     
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    CW, I personally do not believe in marriages being broke because of so and so.

    Even if the In-laws try to create a rift , what was your super brain doing?:rantSome men easily put the blame on the wife or parents to get away with anything.A man or woman who cannot handle the pressure or the one who could be easily brain washed is always a dangerous one.

    If we talk about in-laws here, what about men who divorce for the sake of marrying again or due to EMA?I think it all boils down to how you are and what type of person you are.

    I disagree here again.We definitely need the binding.Travelling across boundaries has nothing to do with binding or no binding.It has to do with individuals.Infact I would say , some people tend to get overwhemled and pick up the wrong side of another culture and claim it is right.

    All I want to say is , do not blame our system as the system was built with the best intention but the individuals are to be blamed.
     
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