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Discussion in 'Friends & Neighbours' started by Needtobestrong, Nov 1, 2018.

  1. rosylife

    rosylife Bronze IL'ite

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    Yes I do believe that there is a way out in almost all cases. I read in the above comments that we should consider the following things. “One has to be always about who is passionate about the career, who has themost potential to grow, and whose career can support the family etc before making decisions.”

    In my friends case both are passionate, her husband has more potential or almost equal potential compared to my friend. My friends earning power is less compared to husband. Her husband according to her never helped while she worked. They had a cook and a cleaner but she had to do everything else.

    So when the kid came along, husband nicely asked her to stay at home longer. Is it right of her to ask her husband to step down or to slow down in his career for a while? So that she concentrate little less on the kid and get back to work. I am viewing all this from a friend’s angle and I feel her husband is selfish. If he hadn’t accepted the promotion, she could have started working now.

    In our field working from home, later hours is not possible. Less flexibility we have, as we have projects that has to be completed every week and if one day you take off there will be no one to replace . We work in small groups.
     
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    rosylife Bronze IL'ite

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    1. Our field has less fexiblity. We can’t take leaves without informing few days in advance as one person manages an area of the whole project. If it become a few times , it will create negative impact.
     
  3. SGBV

    SGBV IL Hall of Fame

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    Problem is not her career, but her husband. She should make him understand that he needs to provide more to the family in terms of help, care and support other than money.

    No need to step down from a promotion. No one would be able to do it happily.
    But he could step down from his position as "man of the family" and the "male ego" that prohibits him from helping his woman.
    No matter what, he can find a way to help her in whatever the possible manner.
    Or arrange someone on-behalf of him to help the family.
    What matters is, that he needs to bear some of the home responsibilities too.

    When my H had a travelling job, he would arrange a reliable driver to pick up and drop kids, with a woman (often driver's wife) to travel with.
    He would arrange someone for the grocery or make on-line shopping till delivery.
    He would take care of the bills,
    And more importantly utilize his leaves just to stay at home and look after kids, so that I could catch up on my work after a long leave (for sick kid or husband's travel etc).
    The couple needs to think and act together to make it a win-win arrangement for both.

    I remember, having no leave days for both to enjoy a vacation for 2-3 years at a stretch as we had eaten up our annual, sick and home leaves only to cover up nanny's absence throughout.
    But now, things have changed... and we do enjoy a lot


    If so, time to change to a diff career.
    Not entirely diff, but in diff field where flexibility is there.
    A pay cut or lower position at this stage is inevitable, as you earn more credit at the family front. But what important is to have a career.
     
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    Needtobestrong Platinum IL'ite

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    I'm reading the replies here..and can so understand and identify with the different situations here..
    Really it's very difficult for a career minded lady to step down for family reasons..
    In my case I was in a low paying job..I m not very ambitious..but I worked as I liked my work and was happy that I got some pocket money for personal expense and could utilise my education..
    Due to medical reasons, child care etc I've taken long break..
    I do not resent my family for making me sit at home as it was 50% my decision to be a home maker for sometime..
    Actually if I analyse there are a few things which bother me, I,e
    Just because I'm a home maker My family members are taking me for granted, I.e inviting guests home, entertaining guests, expecting me to cook fresh meals everyday, cooking multiple times a day, not allowing me to give additional work to maid ( I have a maid for cleaning work but need to do everything else) , not respecting my need for privacy or free time,...I don't have luxury of taking rest when unwell..(I was down with fever last year, maid also was on leave..I wanted to take rest but my MIL said that ladies only should do all work and as I'm a home maker I should do the sweeping, mopping vessels etc on my own and not take help from anyone ..well I was very sick and I anyway dint do the work but I resent her so so so much for saying that )..

    When I don't fulfil expectations I hear unwanted remarks which I either answer back or ignore.
    Whereas one more relative who is of my age group and working just cooks once in 3 days or so , has 2-3 maids and nanny for all work and she doesn't have the time or inclination or interest to entertain guests or socialise..she travels all the time and hardly is there with her family..
    But everyone support her and no one points finger at her as she works and earns big bucks.
    It's not about money always...No one is behind my money as I was in low paying job..
    It's just attitude of people towards ladies who took break..
    Maybe that's why I feel sad..it's not about job or career but the treatment of me when I was working woman versus home maker..
     
  5. SGBV

    SGBV IL Hall of Fame

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    @Needtobestrong

    I understand your pain. But, the issue here is, that you can't have the cake and eat it too.

    A working woman has a full time professional job, which means she is having to get up early in the morning to commute in this traffics to reach out to the office where so many stressful work commitments and criticism to follow etc..etc... and sometimes, having to lose proper breakfast or lunch, the time with family, the mental agony of not being able to care for the sick kid, and finally the exhausted travel back home. But it doesn't stop there. A working woman is expected to cook, care and act like a wife/mom almost all the possible ways at home too This often make her sacrifice her sleep time, her "me-time", her "motherhood" and what not.
    But in return she gets whatever the social status, respect, identity, power with a colorful pay ch.
    Many women feel, the troubles above worth the blessings as mentioned here.
    But some women chose their convenience (physical and mental), and decide to stay at home to be a home-maker, which is fine.
    However, expecting the same identity, respect, social status etc..etc.. that of a working woman is not practical.

    A working woman can not give an excuse like "sick kid, or messy home" for not performing her tasks at duty. Likewise, a home-maker has her duty designated to her at home front, and such simple excuses won't work.

    Both working women and home-maker can have their own excuses, but that comes with a set-back.

    My mom was an excellent home-maker, and she has her identity and respect based on what she could offer to the family being as an excellent back born/home maker to her family.
    Her confidence and identity or even social status is no less of a working women.

    But I've seen many home makers today (even my mom's time) those did not excel in their job as a home maker perfectly, yet had issues, complaints and set-backs. Result is that they were not respected for the role they played at home.

    For ex... I cant be a perfect home-maker like my mom or MIL. I need a maid, a day care center at least 1/2 a day, and a gardener once in a while, and interior décor at least yearly, a tailor every now and then in addition to eating out and depending on store brought sweets and snacks on festivals.
    I can not be making friends with my neighborhood that easily to depend on them to emergency.
    I can not be hosting guests often, and cleaning after the mess they create no matter how much positivity the guests could bring to the relationship.
    Therefore, I understood that I don't belong to be a perfect home maker. And if I chose to be so, I will not be doing anything extra that of a working woman (in me) to get appreciations.
    But I could excel well at work front with all my heart. And my absence at home front could be to some extend filled with external help.
    So, I chose to work.
     
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    Needtobestrong Platinum IL'ite

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    @SGBV yeah what you are saying makes a lot of sense to me, especially because I've been on both the sides..
    Of course I understand the physical and mental strain that a working woman faces..
    I just felt that i was being taken for granted now that's all..I can adjust with not having the social status of a working woman...but I didnt like being forced into unnecessary commitment like entertaining guests for extended period, and unnecessary criticisms even when I'm doing my best to do all household and cooking activities along with childcare...actually it's not easy being a home maker and living with in laws..if only my husband would be a little affectionate and attentive with me and atleast spend a few minutes talking to me as a person ..if only my family members would make some small adjustments and respected my boundaries, and give some me- time and free time to pursue my hobbies, I wouldn't have felt the need to vent so much or felt sad..I would have been a happy home maker .
     
  7. SGBV

    SGBV IL Hall of Fame

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    @Needtobestrong
    The core problem is not you being a SAHM or working woman.
    It is your H's and in laws' attitude towards you. It is all about how you present yourself before them, and how they respect you for who you are.

    In certain cases, having a career helps women to have the sense of freedom, and power.
    That helps them to focus in life regardless of criticism and family politics.

    For ex. My PILs have always criticized me about my cooking, my way of parenting and what not
    They have forced me to keep guests at an extended period at my home etc..etc...
    When I said no, obviously there were criticism.
    My H was mostly a silent spectator, who fell into their trap more often than not.

    But my career and my social status gave me the power to ignore their comments. I was like, who these fellows are to judge me and my capacity when so many people out side of my home appreciates me as an individual for who I am.
    My careless attitude towards their complaints made them back off
    And that eventually made my H to see what am I?

    Every women is put under such criticism in some or the other way.
    In fact, my mom had to face similar criticism for being a home maker too.
    But she was confident what she is doing, and excelled in what she was doing than an average home-maker. This confidence gave her the power to ignore other's criticism, and that's what attracted my dad towards her.
    I follow the same, though our paths are different
     
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    Needtobestrong Platinum IL'ite

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    @SGBV..
    Thanks for understanding my point of view..really I feel I should be more effective in handling criticisms and answer back when needed, and be thick skinned enough to ignore people who don't matter to me! Skills which I'm trying to acquire!
     

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