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You are responsible for your actions!!!! - A tribute to Chitvish's post on vasanas

Discussion in 'Snippets of Life (Non-Fiction)' started by Shanvy, Jan 11, 2008.

  1. Shanvy

    Shanvy IL Hall of Fame

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    Agni sharma was the son of Maharshi sumati who was always in meditation.

    As a kid Agnisharma, had lot of negative traits..like stealing and all.he could not learn the Vedas because of lack of concentration and other things. he got married. There was drought and living became very difficult for all of them. He meets a gang of robbers and joins them. By robbing others he was putting food on the table for his family.

    He thought of robbing the saptarishis, who were passing by. Since the rishis are far sighted, they knew he was from the brighu vamsa and the son of sumati. They asked him, “You born in a noble family, why are you robbing others…why are you stooping to this low level and committing paapam (sins)”

    AGni sharma stubbornly said, “I am doing my duty of feeding my family..is it not punya”

    Atri maharshi (one of the saptarishi’s) then smiled and asked him “Have you ever asked your family if they want to be part of this paapa..(sin).” To this agni sharma replied “I have never asked my family, but I am confident that they will also bear part of these sins..” Hearing this the maharishi said, “please go home! Ask your family and come back, we will be waiting to hear from you.”

    Agni sharma goes home, first asks his father rishi Sumati, “Father, this is how I have been placing food on the table, now will you bear the effects of these sins with me”
    “You are responsible for your deeds (karma)”.replied his father. He then goes to his mother and asks the same question., “Did we ever teach you to rob or ask you to rob” asks his mother. (It is said that when she was pregnant with agnisharma his mother had taken food from the robbers in the forest, this brought in the negative trait of robbing in her son)

    He then goes to his wife and puts the same question.. she replies my duties are well addressed in wifely duties. (which are darmecha, karyecha….)..so how come I will take part of your sins..she further says, papam(sins) and punyas are different from my wifely duties, but being your arthangi (wife) I will get half of your share of punya(good deeds).
    So with a heavy heart he goes back to the Saptarishis, and tells them that nobody wanted to take part of the sins...

    The Rishis explained now you understand that you have to bear the cross of your sins. Hearing this Agni sharma repents and asks a way out of all this. The rishis suggest that he medidate. They gave him (upadesam) of the great Shiva Panchaaksharii mantram and told him to go on doing the jaap till they are back. Agnisharma does this religiously. They come back after 12 years to see him glowing and surrounded by ant-hills (valmikam).

    They tell Agnisharma, that he is now free of all sins, and has become a renounced one, and also asked him to continue the same meditation, near the banks of the ganges. Lord Shiva pleased manifests himself and tells Agnisharma, that hence forth he will be called “Valmiki” and he will be the one who writes about Rama..

    Of course that is a great story to continue….but let me stop here…..

    My views on the story..
    • The story is different from what is usually told about the robber turning into the great valmiki. This is one contradictory story I had read when I was reading about Valmiki. But both the lines of the story advocate that you repent for your ways, and try to reform, even the worst thief can change into a great sage.
    • Then comes the sins. Whatever be the deeds, we are responsible for the actions and the reactions that come out of the actions. So we cannot blame others for our paapam and punyam.
    • According to hindu dharma, it is said that the deeds we do, reflect on our children. They have to carry the effect of these deeds in this birth. Though the papas are the person's sole responsibility. And also that the wife, gets half of the punyas of the husband (poor husbands).
    • I always used to wonder about the positive thinking affecting the baby. To prove that may be this story was told to establish, that negative deeds, negative thinking also have effects on the baby during the pregnancy, as prahlada’s story is all about positive thinking and listening.
    • Vasanas, can be controlled with self control and meditation.
     
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  2. Chitvish

    Chitvish Moderator IL Hall of Fame

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    I am happy, more ILites will read it. If you had posted in my thread on Vasanas, there may not have been many takers !
    It is always mentioned that our karmas will affect our children. This point has always been a matter of debate in my mind ! I think it is more to scare us, it is put this way, because we are more bothered about our children's welfare than our own !
    Next is the ardhangi point, Well, I do not want to be drawn into a discussion !
    Your blog made very enjoyable reading as well as informative.
    Love,
    Chithra.
     
  3. aishu22

    aishu22 Gold IL'ite

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    Shanthi,
    Very nice blog!When something narrated in a story format, its easier to understand!! Thanks for the story.
     
  4. Shanvy

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    My sons addiction to mythology has been useful for me to read and analyse certain things...
    sometimes i wonder all these stories were told to tell us certain morals...which would not reach the masses unless they had a story to visualise.

    this story was apt and was kind of bringing an example to your present topic.

    The arthangi part i still don't know...but it is a controversial subject....not wanting to venture...that is why i took cover under the dharma...:queen
     
  5. Shanvy

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    yes, visual impact is greater..the story format helps us to visualise the whole thing. I had read this story long back...and it really looked apt as an example for vasanas...
     
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    Arunarc Moderator Staff Member IL Hall of Fame

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    Hi Shanthi and nice blog ya
    I had read this story long back and I think it is true during pregency we need tto be more calm and spend more time in good deeds. This is what our elders use to tell
     
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    Hi Shanthi,
    Nice one, once again, discussing various points in the story.
    It is true that we are responsible for our actions but we don't accept that and blame it on others when things don't go well as expected.
    I think regarding the children gets affected by our actions, must be indirectly. Like say, if we do good deeds, people also respect our children and if we are not, curse is on us and our children.
    Moreover, it is their actions that make them as children to those parents.
    This is my guess.

    sriniketan
     
  8. Shanvy

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    Thanks aruna. yes,to follow what our elders say, this generation wants to know more reasons..that is what i am trying to find.....hope with the help of you all....
     
  9. Shanvy

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    I always wonder, if our elders tell us, that our deeds and actions will effect our children, to instill the fear to set an better example to our children....
    I am happy that you have taken time to read this blog.:queen
     
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    Dear Shanti
    Nice blog. I have read this story but Rathnakar as a Maharshi Sumati's son i am reading it for the first time. I think all these mythical stories gives you a message. Yes elders always make it a point to mention that what ever we do (good or bad) are passed on to our children. I agree with your second point of views. Yes if we are able to take responsibility for our actions and take corrective actions that alone itself is a great step.

    Vidhi
     

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