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Discussion in 'Parents & Siblings' started by mangaii, Jul 5, 2024.

  1. mangaii

    mangaii Platinum IL'ite

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    If you plan to visit your sibling on a weekday( all kids in college) after informing date ahead of time, they both are in office call whole day and you just feel like intruder in their home. Initially due to shortage of time you didn’t want to visit but they compel you to visit and then you change your plans to spend flight tickets for 4 people and visit them . This is on a short trip to India . Will you be offended ?
     
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  2. MalStrom

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    Normally in case of rare visitors it is assumed that we will be spending time together and taking leave if it is a workday. Was this the plan or was it an assumption on your part?
     
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    @MalStrom
    In span of last 10 years I have been to India twice. Since my sibling's spouse is really busy(based on phone conversation they talk only about their work problems)and during my last visit I stayed in hotel, which was scrutinized I didn't want to visit and conveyed the same .
    One fine day I got a call(rarely happens from other side) insisting me to visit them .
    I felt bad and I decided to fly-in and out for a day . This is expensive trip for me too .
    Once I confirmed, I got packages which was supposed to be delivered to them . Although it was really inconvenient for me since I will be moving different locations, I still decided to send it off the minute I land in India.
    Now all I hear is they will be busy and they cannot spend time with me or my kids during my visit.
    I have no problem people being busy but I feel offended because I changed my plan to accommodate them . I feel it was poor judgement on my side to always prey for all these requests.
    If left alone, I would have spent my time and money on something else. I cannot cancel tickets since they are not refundable and even if I let go of money I know there will be huge drama if I don't show up.
     
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    Yes, that is very rude. It sounds like playing games to show they are important. No one is that busy. Consider this a lesson learned, what can you do?
     
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  5. paru123

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    Yes, I would be offended if they were on office call on weekend when everyone has an off. But on weekdays and if date n time was already informed, then some emergency could have come to them at workplace that they might have had to deal with. In that case it is not right to get offended.
     
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    @mangaii This is complex question and definitely not a yes / no question.

    A speaker once asked a room full of people: raise your hand if you were ever lied to, cheated or been disappointed by someone.

    Everyone in the room raised their hand.

    Then the speaker asked, raise your hand if you have ever lied to someone, cheated them or disappointed them.

    No one raised the hand.

    The speaker concluded, this is not possible mathematically.

    Feeling offended by someone's action happens. It could be intentional or unintentional but the hurt is the same. We are sometimes in the receiving end and most of us will agree that we have been on the doer's end as well.

    Long distance relationships are hard to salvage once gone sour. But if it can be, there is nothing more wonderful than that.

    May good things happen to you. Good Luck!
     
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    I've been through similar situations and try to avoid using the word "offended," as it can sound like a demanding guest. My husband helped me frame it correctly: it's not about them intending to offend, but about differing views on spending time together. When I spend time and money to visit, I expect quality time and talking, whereas for them, it might just be about ticking a checkbox of "let's invite her, let's have her over."

    I learned this lesson the very hard way. Now, if I am spending a weekday or even weekend at someone's place, I make sure I know what their plans are. I actually ask are you taking the day off. Often, their response is vague, like "Just a few meetings, should be fine." I used to accept this, but ended up twiddling my thumbs waiting for their meetings to get over, while they mimed to me where things are in the kitchen, and regularly asked if I was doing OK. Now, I ensure I have a rental car or other plans.

    Since the pandemic and the rise of remote work, super busy multitasking folks think they can work and host simultaneously. I used to feel annoyed, but now I genuinely see it as a different approach and plan accordingly. But, this learning was a very hard lesson and very expensive. Once I had to book a last-minute hotel when a friend didn't take off five days like she said she would. After wasting one day at her place, I politely explained things to her, and even managed to conquer my biggest fear - figuring out my way in public transit where I didn't speak the language. She genuinely was surprised. She thought the way she entertained other visitors would work for me too.

    Another time, I wasted two days watching CNBC for hours that a friend's husband was watching while she worked. Also, on one of our highly anticipated sunrise viewing drive up a mountain, that was on my to-do for years, she changed plans from me driving us both in my rental car to her husband driving their car. I couldn't drive that epic route myself, and I ended up in the back seat while her husband talked loudly throughout. Was meeting this friend after twenty years. Sigh.

    Anyway, I've put all these down to life's learning experiences. This is all with friends however. In your case, it was sibling. I think it was rude of them to invite you over and then both be unavailable for hours together. A very expensive experience when time is at a premium, and leaves a bad taste in the mouth. And, you can't say much or even express disappointment as it will just make things worse.
     
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  8. mangaii

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    Thanks everyone
    If it was just me I would have been fine but I’m dragging my kids too
    3 flight tickets back and forth isn’t something small . Especially I made it comfortable time for them for arrival and departure.
    If I make plans to go out then there is drama of how I’m not willing to spend time .
    If I book room then also it becomes crime since my mom will get involved and make it as a big scene .
    Just have to be in their home for a day .

    What makes me sad is the excitement that is there when plan is proposed to me vs when it is made .

    I have made up my mind . I will book rooms will probably just deal with my mom.

    I’m really unlucky when it comes to family
    and it hurts me tremendously
     
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    Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. The thing is that when it comes to siblings, hope springs eternal in the human heart. We keep thinking in each trip that this time things will be different, but finally, nothing is different. : )

    One more time, I reconnected with a childhood friend and was meeting her after 25 years. She got married very young, after intermediate. We planned to meet in a restaurant we used to go to in college. I was all emotional and sentimental looking forward to the meeting, how we would catch up, yada yada. How I would insist on paying the bill.

    I am sitting at the restaurant, I arrived early. She walks in, and I see she brought her 23 or 24 yr old son along. It was a very awkward meal for me. I gathered she was very proud of her son, and his accomplishments, and wanted me to meet him, frankly put, she wanted to show off her son to her friend visiting from USA. I was gracious, and spoke with him, asked about his business etc, but it was a let down for me, counting travel time, it was 5-6 hrs of a day gone. I allowed him to be the man of the event and pay for the lunch. And dropped the plan of going to "our" ice cream shop and "our" bakery after lunch.

    Sorry, taking over your thread with my experiences. : ) : ) : )
     
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    A relative of mine, an infrequent visitor had a wedding to attend near my place. She told us well in advance that she would come in the late evening, rest in our place and next day early morning leave for the wedding. I also had a program that day and told her that we would be busy with the program and that she could come and stay and move next morning as was planned by her.
    Now, she came in the night but since I was busy, I could not even talk properly to her that night. She was a little offended that I did not spend time or show the big excitement to see her. It was evident from her looks that her visit was more important than my program.
     

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