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Why should we act ? – Gita’s answer.

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Dear Sudha,
I can very well understand your thought process, after your recent bereavement.
We have to engage ourselves in action till our last minute. That is the very sign of living.
Consequences may be or may not be, what we desire for. But act, we must !
It is nice to know that you are enjoying these posts, Sudha !
Love,
Chithra.

sudhavnarasimhan said: ↑

Dear Chithra,
Another interestingand enlightening post! After what i have gone through the last month,i did wonder about life and why should we at all do all the things taht we do if itis all going to end the way it ends one day....and we dnt even have a say in that nor do we know which DAY!?.... But your post on Action is signature of life , and the way you have explaned the essence of action and inaction as inGita, really helped me come back to my Life in many ways. I did raed this yesterday ...but was mulling on the thoughts , and was trying to understand a lot of things....then today i read it again and kind of felt it made sense and i have to go on with action, and only inaction brings sorrow N depression......
Great post, i for one is benefitting by these posts a lot...so go on!:2thumbsup:
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Dear Chithra,

You have written this so well. You are your own competition and every post of yours vie with each other in their importance.
To write like you have done, you not only need to understand but also have put into practice what you preach. Otherwise, the words would not have rung so true!
It is so easy to withdraw from life and action when one is depressed. But where will all that lead us to...only more depression. You are so right when you say we cannot run away from problems. We have no choice, we have to face it.
Each time you mention Gita having solutions to our problems, I get very excited. I like to immediately grab the book and devour it. But I know it wont work like that. I am sure Gita will be ready to give me answers only when I am ready to read more than the written lines therein.
Arjuna is is a 'punyatma' ! He had the Lord Himself guiding him out of his turmoil.
Well, we have our own Chithra to give guidance to understand Gita and the Vedanta behind it. Just reading Gita is not sufficient. Like you say, proficiency is not the key, efficiency is !
Now I pray that the good Lord give me the intellect to understand and aspire towards the right path.

L, Kamla

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Dear Chithra
Isnt it interestng that everyone who reads is able to go with some line that touches them? that is a attribute to your greatness. It is always interesting to read other replies and posts to observe the different views. and God seems to have given a unique set of problems for each unique individual which they need to cross or face to realise God.

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Dear Kamla,
Thanks for your FB.
Sometimes, rather very often, you overwhelm me with such nice words that I literally grope for suitably nice words to thank you. But I fail, in my expressions !
We love to wallow in self pity when we suffer that we fail to realise that unless we act, we are not going to march ahead. Ofcourse, it is easily said than done. But, is there any choice at all ? Does not life go on ?
Let us not ever start wondering if we are as efficient as X or Y . Let us be as efficient as we can, even under the most trying circumstances. To each her or his own.
Let me thank you again for your nice words, Kamla.
Love
Chiothra.

Kamla said: ↑

Dear Chithra,

You have written this so well. You are your own competition and every post of yours vie with each other in their importance.
To write like you have done, you not only need to understand but also have put into practice what you preach. Otherwise, the words would not have rung so true!
It is so easy to withdraw from life and action when one is depressed. But where will all that lead us to...only more depression. You are so right when you say we cannot run away from problems. We have no choice, we have to face it.
Each time you mention Gita having solutions to our problems, I get very excited. I like to immediately grab the book and devour it. But I know it wont work like that. I am sure Gita will be ready to give me answers only when I am ready to read more than the written lines therein.
Arjuna is is a 'punyatma' ! He had the Lord Himself guiding him out of his turmoil.
Well, we have our own Chithra to give guidance to understand Gita and the Vedanta behind it. Just reading Gita is not sufficient. Like you say, proficiency is not the key, efficiency is !
Now I pray that the good Lord give me the intellect to understand and aspire towards the right path.

L, Kamla
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Dear AC,
The greatness of Gita or for that matter any other epic is, "explanation" or
"interpratation" (bhashyam, as it is called) varies with each person.
We understand the meaning more with reference to the situation we are going through at that particular phase of life.
That is Gita's greatness, AC, pleasedo not attribute it to me.
Thankyou for coming again - I am very happy that this post is making you think a lot.
Love
To
Chitra
From
Chithra.

anandchitra said: ↑

Dear Chithra
Isnt it interestng that everyone who reads is able to go with some line that touches them? that is a attribute to your greatness. It is always interesting to read other replies and posts to observe the different views. and God seems to have given a unique set of problems for each unique individual which they need to cross or face to realise God.
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Chitvish said: ↑

So long as we are alive, we cannot but be active. Actions are flowing out of every living person. They should be organized, altered or disciplined so that these actions coming out of him, bring about happiness in the community and a sense of fulfillment and satisfaction to the individual. This is called “the art of action”.

Always action is the answer and not inaction. Running away from problems is cowardice and the result of cowardice is sorrow, shame and defeat. Courage lies in facing the situation and sublimity; splendour and success are the blessings of courage. It is a unique gospel on Karma-Yoga and teaches how to attain the great ideal of worklessness through work ! Man should not renounce the work and social responsibilities, but he must learn to renounce the fruits thereof. The attachment to the work leads to suffering and bondage. One must learn to follow svadharma or one’s assigned duties, without attachment to the work or its fruits.

Confusion arising from a total sense of frustration is a universal ailment. We have to rediscover ourselves with enthusiastic dynamism. Not only individuals, but even nations sometime enter into an overwhelming state of perplexity and frustration.
But no one should sit inactive; as long as one is alive, one must act.

At moments of mental dejection, the human intellect always discovers arguments which are convincing to project our point of view. Eventhough we very often know it is cowardice, our own thoughts supply us enough excuses and reasons to justify our actions. We try to paint white our dark inner turmoil. One has to learn to face problems with faith in oneself. We must know to make our inner personality strong and tackle the problem with a new-found confidence.

The Gita helps us do this. She expounds a science of personality-reconstruction. We need this more than anything else. This is what is explained by Krishna to Arjuna.

We must act and crash into the problem. We must choose the right type of motive to inspire our activities and then the entire effort becomes rewarding in terms of the feeling of peace and the sense of fulfillment that come to us. Action is the expression of the glorious life in us. When we work joyously to reach a goal, our efficiency increases. Success in life depends not on proficiency, but only on efficiency. Our proficiency, when expressed through diligent and planned activities, becomes the play of efficiency in us.

Our country has intelligent workers and technicians who are more proficient than, say the Japanese or the Malaysian people. But we cannot deny they have more efficiency whereas we have proficiency!

Thus we see, that to be more creative, proficiency must be transformed into efficiency.
We must act diligently, whole-heartedly, with a motivation to improve and a spirit to outshine our own present abilities. Self-improvement is the spirit of challenging yourself by yourself and unfolding the personality. A man must perform the action essentially non-egoistic and objective and perform for the well being of others also.

Action is the signature of life !

One must act diligently, with the heart in the work, with a will to improve, a spirit to outshine ourselves ! The spirit of challenging yourself by yourself is the secret of self-improvement and unfoldment of your entire personality. It is the spirit and the attitude which matter the most.

The Gita supplies anchorage to the confused youth, to the frustrated nations, to the worrying communities.

The following is the very call of the Gita;

“ tasmaat uththishta Kaunteya
Yuddhaaya krta nischayah”

Shed your fear, get up determined to fight and win.
Get up my country men – determined to fight to die, if need be, for the sacred Bharata.

Let us bear this call in mind and move ahead in life !
Love,
Chithra.
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Dear Chitvish,

Running away from problems does not solve the problems, we have to face it and solve it. Running away is cowardice and shame.... Great... But at times in real life we run away or try to avoid problems instead of facing it... It is not because of cowardice... Because we dont want to hurt our loved ones... or further complicate situations.... In todays world we dont have Krishna next to us to guide us....

Man should not renounce the work and SR but renounce the fruits ..... It is great.... mostly said than done.... Every one of us crave for recognition.... or some pat in the back.... which will motivate further... The theory of recognition and motivation revolves around this...

Attachment to work..... Again all my Bosses used to tell me... Dont get emotionally attached ..... But if you are not attached... you cannot expect great results.... If you feel you just do your duty.... then we cannot expect better results.... It will become like a Govt. Orgn... Where they will do the work only if the paper comes to their table....

Our country has great intelligent workers and technicians.... Most of them are in overseas and the young ones are aspiring to go out sided the country and not in India.... Why..... Again it is because of the recognition and salary and standard of life etc.etc...

So, where are we.....

Sorry to have strayed out of context....

Veda

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Dear Vysan,
Thoughts come in a stream & we tend to stray & go out of context, very often. This is because one thought leads to another !
I fully agree with whatever you have written !
Regards,
Chithra.

Vysan said: ↑

Dear Chitvish,

Running away from problems does not solve the problems, we have to face it and solve it. Running away is cowardice and shame.... Great... But at times in real life we run away or try to avoid problems instead of facing it... It is not because of cowardice... Because we dont want to hurt our loved ones... or further complicate situations.... In todays world we dont have Krishna next to us to guide us....

Man should not renounce the work and SR but renounce the fruits ..... It is great.... mostly said than done.... Every one of us crave for recognition.... or some pat in the back.... which will motivate further... The theory of recognition and motivation revolves around this...

Attachment to work..... Again all my Bosses used to tell me... Dont get emotionally attached ..... But if you are not attached... you cannot expect great results.... If you feel you just do your duty.... then we cannot expect better results.... It will become like a Govt. Orgn... Where they will do the work only if the paper comes to their table....

Our country has great intelligent workers and technicians.... Most of them are in overseas and the young ones are aspiring to go out sided the country and not in India.... Why..... Again it is because of the recognition and salary and standard of life etc.etc...

So, where are we.....

Sorry to have strayed out of context....

Veda
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Dear Chitraji,
That was simply great.Enjoyed reading it &re reading it.The Gita has given us a whole package on how to live our lives.I also appreciate greatly that it is mentors like yourself who are bringing the extracts of the Gita to us in a manner we are able to comprehend.Would love to read more such writeups.
Thanks again Chitraji,
Regards,
Revathy.

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Dear Revathy,
Thankyou for joining us in this thread.Please do not use big words like mentor for me.
I am learning Gita by going to a class & wish to share with you, whatever I am learning.
Please stay tuned.
Love,
Chithra.

revathy45 said: ↑

Dear Chitraji,
That was simply great.Enjoyed reading it &re reading it.The Gita has given us a whole package on how to live our lives.I also appreciate greatly that it is mentors like yourself who are bringing the extracts of the Gita to us in a manner we are able to comprehend.Would love to read more such writeups.
Thanks again Chitraji,
Regards,
Revathy.
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Dear Chithra Ma'am

I had been thinking of few aspects of Shri Bhagvad Gita which cause confusion in my mind.

I have been going through your posts, but didn't post FB as I felt that these teachings of GITA have so much depth that they don't require any FB, they are to be implemented and put in action.

The aspects that put me in confusion are

GITA says fight for your rights and don't accept injustice as the the person tolerates injustic is equaly to be blamed as the person who inflicts injustice

Do you think it is possible to always act upon this teaching,as if we do so most of the time we would end up fighting.Especiallly ladies have to tolerate so many things just to maintain peace and harmony at home.

Similarly, at the work place too.

Coming to "karm Karo Phal ki chinta mat karo"

But, how does one tackle the situation when one's reputation is maligned due to profesional jealousies, though one might be a very sincre worker.

Please me resolve these issues

Warm Regards
Ansh

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