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What to do with an alcoholic manipulative husband?

Discussion in 'Married Life' started by minniemouse, May 3, 2013.

  1. minniemouse

    minniemouse New IL'ite

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    Hey everyone. I have been married 4 years and have a 2 year old dd. I knew he did drink occasionally but it was only after marriage I came to know he was an alcoholic. Anyways the first two years of marriage were nothing less than hell. I begged, cried, pleaded, fought, asked him lovingly, I did everything in my power to make him stop. But he didn’t. 2 years into our marriage we had DD which made him stop drinking daily to once a month and gradually weekly once. I was ok with it thinking something is better than nothing. He suddenly had a serious relapse 2 months back for no apparent reason and started drinking constantly. He started working from home and this added to the misery. He became to lose total control of himself. He used to exhibit classic alcoholic symptoms, drinking secretly, started drinking throughout the day etc. On 3 different occasions in one month he lost total control and acted in unacceptable way. He began breaking things, hitting me and not remembering anything the next day. He cried the first 2 times and I took him back. The 3rd time was the limit. My parents are visiting so he should atleast have the minimum courtesy to behave himself. No, that night he was drinking ‘secretly’. He doesn’t want me to know but I can smell alcohol from a mile over because of all the stress I had been through the first 2 years. I did not want any trouble and decided to sleep in a separate room. Mind you, nobody at home knew about this and they were outside at this time. I was in my room, he comes and keeps asking me why I did this (nuvvu enduku ila chesav?) the question was directed to the fact that I had asked him in the morning that we did not have money pay off loans and home mortgage but to buy his mother gold bangles? His mother had visited us and we had spent over 20k in 6 months on his side of the family no joke… He hit me, choked me, and in his drunken stupor took dd and locked the door. This was the last straw. She was crying incessantly and he would not open the door. I could not wait to find the spare key, so I broke the door and took DD. He became yelling, how dare you break the door, don’t you think I can break the door. I told him DD was crying and I wasn’t thinking and that you are so drunk that u cannot take care of her. He did not listen. By this time my dad had come home and saw what was happening. Up until this point he did not know H’s drinking problem. H continued to threaten me, he said he will show me he could also break the door and broke the same door to the extent it came out of the wall. He continued on to break the chandelier. My father asked him to calm down, he wouldn’t. He took DD and locked the bedroom again. This time I got the key and tried taking the DD but he wouldn’t give her to me. She cried to the point she vomited and I took her away somehow. He wouldn’t stop. He used to stay in his room, drink, come out and ask me why I had broken the door. Whatever happened before and after that fact didn’t matter. He came downstairs and threatened to break doors and started becoming violent. I was so fed up I told him I will call the cops if he didn’t stop. There were already scratch marks on my neck so it wouldn’t be so hard to convince them he hit me. His drama wouldn’t stop. It was already 3 hours into all this and I had been pleading him all the while, he says we weren’t meant to be together and we should tell my dad we need a divorce. My dad was stunned at this behaviour. He did calm down after the cop threat.

    The next day he started drinking again and kept asking me if I had taken a decision and lets go to your dad and tell him. I had never involved my parents in our fights before. But this was the limit. I was so mad that I called my dad and told him I wanted to divorce this person. I was dead serious about this matter. H got mad that I had told my dad before telling him. This was ridiculous as the day before he was telling my dad all this. Anyways he knew I was very serious on this issue. The next few days he sobered up, said his sorrys and that we should get back to normal, and he wouldn’t do this again and whole nine yards I had gotten used to listening for the first 2 years. This time I told him to go to counselling and rehab if neccessary but he wanted to try on his own. and he is being ok now. Drinks once a week which is better than everyday.
    But things never got back to normal. Because I had asked for a divorce I became superbad. His family became his everything. He has no concern for me at this point.
    Three days back he tells me we have nothing remaining in this marriage, that he would rather trust a stranger than me, that he feels bad he is putting DD through all this. He is finding it hard to talk to me. He is putting up an act everyday. That I had betrayed his trust. It has been a month since that fight. He hasn’t and is not wiling to forget. He wants to go to India to have some space. I told him I am trying my best to work things through and to be close to him, making plans for just the two of us to spend time alone but no.
    It was his idea to work things through. It was his idea for us to take a vacation to work things through. Now he doesn’t want to do any of that and just escape to his family so that they can feed his ego and make him feel he is the best person in the world. They should because I have just seen he has bought his sister 150grams worth of necklace. And I am here typing this post wondering if I should leave him at least now. I have moved out of the bedroom along with DD. He has stopped talking to me. I have stopped talking to him too. I have had it now. He feels I will stay put no matter what. This is a game for him. If I say one thing now he will blame it on me and leave to india.

    Should I leave him already? I am sick and tired of this behaviour. I have tried my best to make this marriage work. I am screwing up my future and career for this person. I don’t even know how to approach this situation anymore. He is 35 but acting like a 10 year who will run to his mommy first chance something goes wrong. According to him everything is my fault. What do I do now?
     
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  2. navyar

    navyar Gold IL'ite

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    My hugs to you minniemouse!

    My God! what a toxic environment your child is placed in ... This barbarous behaviour of your H can have permanent negative impact on your DD's development. What kind of a pathetic childhood you are going to give your daughter if this continues for another 10 years?? Atleast for the sake of the child, you need to take some immediate measures.

    Betrayed his trust???? what trust has he reposed in you ?? that you will never leave him even if he is abusive to any degree???

    I think He is just dying of guilt .... He needs some acceptance right now which you cannot give after taking all crap from him. So he is trying to run to his parents who will accept him no matter what. But at the same time, he wants to leave guilt free by managing to make you feel that you are the reason for all this. What ever may be, let him go to his parents. Be strong.

    Think of making arrangements for 'temporary separation' for some behavioral changes in your H.
     
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    sudhajay Silver IL'ite

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    My hugs to you dear.. Don't worry.. this drunken citizens will never change.. whatever they say today, surely tomorrow morning they will forget and do the same.. It is better to get divorce from him.. try to get good job and settle with your parents.. try to be independent and take care of your child.. surely he will suffer and understands who is his caretaker???

    Please get divorce.. they will not change..
     
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    minniemouse New IL'ite

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    Thanks navyar, this is exactly what i what to know as well. I dont know what trust i have betrayed. He himself exposed his disgusting behaviour in front of my father. I have never brought up his drinking habit in front of my parents. His side of the family know his behaviour all too well but have never said a word against it because they fear he will shut them out like he has done to me.
    He keeps asking me why i exposed him in front of my parents. I dont understand if i did do that or not. Even i am confused now. i think he doesnt want patch up until i say sorry for that day. This is the dumbest thing ever. WHy should i say sorry? what did i do? there were two instances just 2 weeks before this happened which followed the exact pattern. He got drunk, not regular drunk.. and started fighting at 2am. and then said sorry the next, cried and everything. and then 3 days later started drinking at 10 am. this was the 3 rd time that this happened and fortunately my parents were there to witness this. Because i asked for a divorce he says he has lost trust in me. I have given up everything, money issues everything. Instead of helping save our marriage, his family is buying jewellery at this point. I dont want to save this marriage anymore. He has stopped drinking daily to twice a week and that too not out of control but he is not letting this fight go. He needs to blame me on this and I am calmly listening and not saying anything. Basically he is not getting any response from me and this irks him. I really feel he is manipulating me this time. And I am not budging. I have asked him to do whatever he wants. Should I tell him the marriage is over if he goes to india without resolving this issue?
     
  5. galwidpassion

    galwidpassion Silver IL'ite

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    Hugs to you dear!! I am not able to suggest anything. Are you sure you will be able to manage DD alone? If you are sure on that, just talk with your parents clearly.. Tell them everything and ask their suggestion. This problem has been going on for years together and I am afrain that in his drinking stupor he may not bother what happens to the DD also. Just give your self a break. Go to your parenst house or some vacation with them just for a change. Take your DD also.. Then once you are relaxed think clearly. Think of all that may happen with/without divorce. Then decide which is the best. You will be the best person to make that decision. Hope you find a solution to your problem .. Wish you gud luck and GOD's blessings..
     
  6. KilaliAnju

    KilaliAnju Guest

    He didnt lost trust in you, he lost trust in the beliefe he can treat you like whatever he wants!.


    Let him go to India and use that time to make your own arrangements. Be glad your father witnessed that cruel incident. Did you talk to him about the full extend of what happend to you and your daughter? If not talk to your parents, talk to your friends and get support. Be strong...

    Abusers often have the tendency to get shocked when they feel their power fading.
    That can be a point where he will try all sort of ways to get the power back (bagging, getting more cruel or increase threats and confuse you about whom is the victim.. dont let that happen). If he has until now no problem with physical abuse, it could get worse if he realises you will leave him.

    People shouldnt get judget by their words (aplogise and crocodile tears next morning) rather then their actions (he did exactly same thing again. and again..)..

    If he is really refusing to go into rehab you have barely another way to protect your daughter and you then to leave that marriage...
     
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  7. varalakshmi24

    varalakshmi24 Silver IL'ite

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    Hello Dear

    I feel very bad about your situation. Especially your daughter should not be going through all this in her child hood. My dad too has his own drinking binges. This has caused a lot of issues at home.My mom has suffered a lot because of this. But my this drinking was only one side of my dad. He was basically an extremely loving father who provided for our mom and us in the best possible way. Hence my mom saw the alchoholism as a disease and never once thought of leaving him. its like he goes on a binge drinking spree for 15 days and then is sober for another 3-4 months.In spite of this his drinking caused a big black spot in our hearts as a children.
    when he is on his spree, he exhibits all symptoms like hdiding drinks, drinking throughout the day etc..

    As a daughter when I think, what if my mom had left my dad because of this?
    Me and my brother would have faced immense losses( emotionally). I am happy that my mom did not take any drastic step and was patient throughout his drinking binge.

    But again, my mom was able to do so because my dad was not a round the year drinker, there were in between periods that were beautiful when he was sobre.
    Secondly my father never once shield away from his familial responsibilities- financially. On that front he was always perfect.

    In your case is your husband supporting you financially?

    In our case when my dad would sober up after a binge session, my mom initially would lose her temper but later would calm down and be very loving to him. For us our dad was not a bad person, alchoholism was just a disease he suffered from like any other disease.

    And by the way my dad too has the habit of sharing every little detail with my grand mom!!Guess all alchoholics are momma's babies:))

    My suggestion to you is, before you take a drastic decision, think if you can love your hubby. will your daughter face a big void in her life if you divorce him or will she be happy in future that you took this decision.

    And the most important..will you be a happier person if you leave your husband? Also will you be able to support yourself financially? Do you live in an environment where you can after a few years have a chance to meet some one and find love again? Do you think you will be able to give your baby a nice secured life without her dad? if your answer is yes to the above 3-4 questions then I feel you must go ahead with the divorce or maybe you should hang on a little bit and see. What if by god's blessings your husband turns over a new leaf or becomes an occasional alchoholic only like my dad :)...My prayers and love with you.
     
  8. minniemouse

    minniemouse New IL'ite

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    The funny thing is hoping something good could come out of it, I called his elder brother, his father is no more, and told him what happened. I hoped he would atleast talk to H and put some sense into him. Instead his brother began lecturing how good H was, that he is financial, socially and educationally higher than him so he cant say anything to him. And that he wasnt here to witness what had happened and that it was my word against his brother's. His brother knows H's behaviour all too well. How could he say that since he wasnt here to see what happened he couldnt comment. So i told him next time this happens i will call the cops and they can decide what really happened. Instead of talking to him, they are supporting him. Ridiculous.
     
  9. guesshoo

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    Hi sweetheart,

    Hugs to you. You have been through a LOT. It was not wrong of you to have involved your parents. he clearly has a drinking problem. From what I have read and seen about reformed alcoholics is that they never, I mean NEVER, EVER touch alcohol again. So, this once a month, once a week crap quite never cuts it.

    He doesn't seem to have realized that the problem is with him and is blaming you with whatever comes to his irrational brain. Please do not listen to him. You have not done anything wrong - but put up with him and his false promises and irresponsible behaviour.

    After what you have described about the way he tried to use your DD as a collateral, I sincerely suggest you seek at least temporary separation for her sake mainly. He HAS to go to AA(Alcoholics Anonymous) and then go for couples counselling with you. There are support groups for families of Alcoholics too. Please see if you can find something in your area to tide you through. Regardless of what your husband is saying this problem has become sooooo big that it can't be contained within the 4 walls of your house. You need outside help and support. Please do seek it.

    In this volatile situation, I think you must stick to your career so that you can support yourself and your DD in case it comes to such a point.

    I sincerely hope you and your DD come out of this unscathed. All the best OP.

    Love
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    Take him back only if his future actions match his remorse.
     

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