What is Atma? - Part 1

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  1. Sep 7, 2007 #21
    sudhavnarasimhan

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    Dear Chitra,
    Yet another wonderful concept with superb explanation.....i read it lastnight and dwelled on it, for reasons you know! I am trying really to comprehend all these aspects ,after watching death at such close quarters.....and we all felt this Atma concept so much, that i can explain here....it is something each one experiences deep within.....
    But though i know Atma is different, still this physical body is the one we relate to one another , for the sake of identity....and when death snatches away that identity , it leaves one bereft, though we know that the Atma is there somewhere?!
    Sorry i needed to get this out, and ur post just let me share my deep thoughts on this.....:oops:
     
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  2. Sep 7, 2007 #22
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    Dear Chitra,
    Rest assured that these topics arew difficult to comprehend & take little more time to understand.
    But my only request is, please don't give up, but try to sit, concentrate & learn. That is because these are life-lessons.
    Yes, Cheeniya has given a very clear example in his inimitable syle, which clearly explains, the difference in humanity !
    Love,
    to
    Chitra
    From,
    Chithra.



     
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  3. Sep 7, 2007 #23
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    Dear Chitra,
    So sweet of you - my blessings to you, my dear young friend, my namesake as well.
    I am not brilliant at all - I am a vedanta student for more than ten years now.
    You are not a "M---u" at all - you are just a beginner !
    Poor Cheeniya Sir ! I am sure, he will avoid answering you !
    Love
    To
    Chitra
    From
    Chithra.



     
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  4. Sep 7, 2007 #24
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    Dear Mals,
    First thanks for coming to this thread - you are a student of vedanta, it is clear to me now ! In your words
    It dwells in a body and still keeps it detached from all the activities.
    change the word it to itself - you are more clear !
    You got caried away in the right direction - no fears. Yes, though brief, Cheeniya's words are indepth analysis !
    Please stay tuned, Mals, if you have the time & inclination !:-D
    Love,
    Chits.



     
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  5. Sep 7, 2007 #25
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    Dear Sudha,
    I can see that your recent experience has made you philosophical.
    Take a pot for example. After the pot breaks also, the pot space does not vanish but continues - Atma s just like that.
    But to identify a Jiva, it is necessary to ave a body-mind complex.
    Thanks for your F B, Sudha.
    Love,
    Chithra.



     
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    Dear Chits,

    Do not thank me for visiting this thread. It is a topic of my interest and this is what motivates me to live life fully and happily.

    I take life as a stage, and me as a actor. I will do justice to my creator who has given me this form, do my job sincerely and exit happily with the confidence that I will be back on the same stage.

    Thank God you have not fired me, I was a little apprehensive. Woke up early, logged in to check your reply..

    I will be back to read more.:yes:
     
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  7. Sep 7, 2007 #27
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    Dear C

    Many many thanks for describing Atma in such simple terms. It feels like I am starting to have a vague idea now. But, sure will have to read and re-read...

    I remember reading MahaPeriyava once compare God to electricity - electricity cannot be seen, but we know that it exists when it glows a bulb. Similarly God can only be felt and one should not question the existance of God. Since it is non-dual, is Atma God? And what is the purpose of Atma to change forms until it attains Moksha?

    -Gayathri.
     
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  8. Sep 7, 2007 #28
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    Dear Gayathri,
    Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate your trying your best to understand.
    God, Atma, Brahman are all different names for the same entity & non-dual as well.
    Moksha is liberation & that is attained when all the karmas are fructified by the body in various janmas & there is no more janma.
    Jiva is the Consciousness (Atma) in the microcosm.
    Iswara is the Consciousness (Atma) in the macrocosm.
    So they are one & the same. Thus Jiva & Iswara are one & the same. This recognition is called jiva-iswara-aikya-jnanam & is the topic of all scriptures.
    This non-dual (advaith jnanam) alone gives a permanent solution.
    Don't worry, Gayathri, we wil proceed slowly & understand better.
    Love,
    Chithra
     
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  9. Sep 9, 2007 #29
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    Dear Chith,
    I enjoyed reading about Atma with wonderful examples comparing atma to sun and mirror to mind.
    Looking forward to read more spiritual posts which gives a lot of peace to the mind.
    :thankyou2:
     
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  10. Sep 10, 2007 #30
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    Dear Sindhuja,
    Thankyou very much for joining here !
    I am so hally that you enjoyed reading about Atma, all the more because of the subtle nature of the subject. Next week, second part continues. Please stay tuned !
    Love,
    Chith.



     
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