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  1. Balajee

    Balajee IL Hall of Fame

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    The Cold War is dead,. Long live the Cold War. Its still glowing embers are being sfoked again. And Ukraine is bearing the brunt of it.

    So who is the guilty party? Is it just Russia? Is there anyone who has not sinned to hurl the first stone at Moscow? Unfortunately none.

    The pr4oblem did not start yesterday or today. It all began with the reunification of Germany when Russia was given the assurance that there would be no eastward expansion of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) after that. by US Secretary of State James Baker. President Bush junior broke that promise and he and his successors merrily recruiting former Soviet bloc states and ex-soviet states that had seceded from Russia.

    The problem is US wants to be the world's sole superpower and will not brook any competition. The aim of the expansion was to surround Russia and restrict its influence. Did they think that would not ring alarm bells in Moscow? Now Nato, AS American PROXY WAS virtually knocking at Moscow's door. It only needed to rope in Ukraine and Georgia to completely surround Russia.
    Now Ukraine had a Russia-friendly government until 2014 when it was thrown out by abn uprising, which Moscow alleged,. was US engineered. Well, knowing Washington's past record, one wouldn't put that beyond Uncle Sam.
    The successor regime was not only Russia unfriendly but Russian-unfriendly. In a Pogrom in the Donbas region of Ukraine 14,000 ethnic Russians were massacred by rightwing Ukrainian militias

    When Ukrainians voted to secede from Russia, the majority in Donbas voted against it but overall, the vote went in favor of secession. But the people of Donbas kept a separatist movement going and kept the conflict warm with Kyiv. Do you expect Russia to watch twiddling its thumbs such ethnic cleansing?

    While in principle, any invasion or of another country is condemnable , sometimes it may be necessary like a bitter pill, Think of India's creation of Bangladesh from the then East Pakistan. Similarly Putin recognized the independence of two Russian states in the Donbas region of Ukraine. Now Russian demand is quite simple. Ukraine must refrain from joining NATO. Perfectly legitimate demand keeping in view Moscow's security considerations , particularly its alarm over being surrounded by potentially hostile states.



    the invasion took place only after 29 rounds of negotiations failed. Even now, Russia is willing to negotiate and has posted a team of negotiators in Belarus. But Ukraine remains stubborn . In one moment of truth Ukrainian President admitted that those nations which made lip service to supporting Ukraine didn't even lift a finger to help it. So what is keeping him from negotiating. Maybe America supporters are holding a gun to his back?

    So who is innocent here? Not Moscow because of the massive destruction it is causing/ Not the western NATO alliance which is using Ukraine as a pawn to keep Russia in check and certainly not Ukraine too for its crimes against humanity in the Donbas region.

    Now the question is, does the world really need a Cold War remnant like NATO WHICH IS TRYING TO KEEP ITS FLAME BURNING? It should have been disbanded after the Cold War like the pro-Soviet Warsaw Pact was, That would have kept the big power games in check.
     
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  2. Thyagarajan

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    Super @Balajee . You have brought out the hidden agenda prequels to the present situation of Russia engaged in invasion of Ukraine.

    I have come across a message that makes it like bickering in It joint family story.

    *What is the Ukrain issue?'
    Once upon a time there was a big joint Family'.
    At a distance, there was a 'Family Enemy' also for them.
    Because of the influence of the 'Family Enemy' and also on account of more freedom given to the 'Children', the 'Joint Family' collapsed.
    Children demanded partition.

    The father finally agreed for the partition.
    The 'Children' constructed their own houses.
    But the 'Father' placed the following condition in front of the 'Children' which they agreed also.
    "Eventhough you are staying separately, you should not allow our 'Family Enemy' to enter your house.
    Anything other than this, you are permitted to do.
    If I happened to see the 'Family Enemy' in front of your house, then I will react against that".
    Once the income of the 'Elder Son' increased enough for survival, he decided to disobey the 'Father'. He treated the 'Family Enemy' as 'Modern' and allowed him to enter the courtyard
    At that point, the 'Father' told the 'Son' the following.
    "OK. Let him stay in the Courtyard. But don't allow him to enter your house.
    You should not go to his house also"
    But the 'Son', after disobeying the Father's orders, not only allowed the 'Family Enemy' to enter his house but also allowed the 'Friends' of the 'Family Enemy' too to enter and play within his house
    The 'Father' who controlled himself till such time, understood that, "if he keep silenced at this point, the 'Son' and his 'New Friends' will enter his house also and will start beating him.
    It is better to punish the 'Son' at this point".
    The 'Father' started beating the 'Son'.
    Immediately after the first beat, all the friends of the 'Son', including the 'Family Enemy' ran away
    The scene of beating the 'Son' by the 'Father' was being watched by his friends and 'Family Enemy' from a distance.
    Now, the 'Son' recollected and realised the words of the 'Father'. Do not believe this friend.
     
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    But now Germany and USA France helping! Is that a twist? In this tale!
     
  4. Balajee

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    Are they really helping? Are they in a position to help? Making declarations of help and actually helping are quite different.They will not go thewhole hog in helping uKRAINE BECAUSE THEY NEED rUSSIAN OIL, GAS AND GRAIN S.
     
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    And the whole world is saying Russia is wrong ! Y is china silent? And Iran and North Korea?
     
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    So how can Russia get victorious all alone?
     
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    No other nation is going to interfere. t is just between Ukraine and Russia and when it comes to sheer military might Russia is way ahead of Ukraine. Ukraine's desperation is clear when it distributed Kalashnikov's to ci9vilians who probably can'\t even shoot straight with a pistol.
     
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    What would one expect them to do, wait there like sitting ducks?
     
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    I don't get how Russia's so called simple demand is legitimate. Since when one country starts making demands to another country on foreign policy. With Dictators in Russia and China, suppressing the voices in their own country and further causing havoc outside is unacceptable. It is not even collective heads making decisions here who are the representatives of the people.

    Russia is simply being a bully with their weapon strength and flexing it. Every country is being threatened by someone else. If they all start taking arms and attacking, this world is heading straight to being wiped out, in a hurry,

    Russia needs to be condemned unequivocally. Lets not defend an evil act with their backstory. Every murder and every evil has a back story. If Russia needs to feel secure, let it do good and build relationships.
     
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