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what did my friend do wrong in dealing with her daughter and son-in-law

Discussion in 'Parents & Siblings' started by BHAVNAM6, Oct 12, 2012.

  1. BHAVNAM6

    BHAVNAM6 Platinum IL'ite

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    Ladies, one of my friends asked me as what did she do wrong in dealing with her daughter and son-in-low. I request you to give your inputs in my friend’s question.

    My friend who is 60 years old and she is working full time job which is very much demanding and keeping her on her toes all the time. Her daughter is 30 years old and working in a big company in the big city. Her husband is also a professional and is having a good job. Her daughter had miscarriage two times but now she is seven months pregnant. She moved in to her new apartment four months ago. As she has a full time job and being pregnant she had to take the help of her maid to organize the stuff in her kitchen and some other areas. Obviously the maid did not do a good job and almost dumped everything in the cabinets. Her daughter told her mom that her cabinets needed to be reorganized. The daughter requested her mom to come over to her place and feed her fresh food as she was craving fresh mom’s food being pregnant and also spend some time with her. She also told her mom that as she was going there for a month she could also reorganize her kitchen cabinets. Mom was thrilled to visit her daughter to feed her fresh food and reorganize her kitchen as well. She was going to make another trip after two months at the time of baby’s birth. This was her in-between visit for her daughter’s request. She took time off from her work and headed to her daughter’s house.
    Her daughter has one bed room apartment. She reached there and noticed that her daughter was not able to straighten the other areas of her apartment due to her job and pregnancy. She was wondering that how is it possible to manage everything out when baby is born in this small apartment with lots of stuff to be straightened. Her daughter wanted her to take the charge of the whole kitchen and everything else after baby’s birth so she herself could stay with her own baby. In this trip her daughter wanted her to feed her means taking the charge of the kitchen. My friend started organizing the stuff in the kitchen so she can feed her three fresh meals and thinking that when she had to come back in two months so she would know exactly where the stuff is in the kitchen and everywhere else and that would be convenient for her to take care of her own daughter and granddaughter on the way as well. She was working almost 12 hours in cooking, cleaning, and organizing with the pure intentions of taking care of her daughter and granddaughter on the way.
    While she was reorganizing everything she had to change the spots for certain stuff for better access in the limited space in a small apartment. Now the emotional struggle started among them.
    Her daughter and Son-in-low were concerned about her as she herself had a hard job back home and all they needed from her to cook and relax rest of the time which was really nice of them. My friend herself did not know that her daughter’s apartment really needed to reorganize before baby’s arrival. Since she found out she could not stop working hard around the house.
    As she knew that her daughter was seven months pregnant and anything could happen between seven months and her due date. She was also concerned about her previous two miscarriages. And due to her own job she was not able to come back before the due date. So her plan was…HOPE FOR THE BEST BUT PREPARE FOR THE WORST. Her whole point was to organize the stuff in one bedroom apartment where baby and mother can be taken care at the best.
    While she was making little changes here and there her daughter and son-in-low freaked out as they thought she was controlling their apartment. She tried to explain them that they can rearrange everything after one or two months of the delivery period. She also explained them that it was their house and they can keep it the way they like it. Since they were asking for her help and taking over everything including cooking, cleaning, attending visitors after baby was born, taking care of the mother and daughter. She was requesting them that her concern is to take care of baby and mom and it would be only possible if the small apartment is well organized.
    Then they both came up with another offer to explain them what is to be done before baby is born and they will do it after she was gone and when she comes back for the delivery she would find it organized. My friend thought that when kids could not do it in these three months because of their laid back attitude then how they are going to finish in this limited time. She also thought that it would not be easy for her daughter with progressing pregnancy and her husband of course being guy takes everything easy. So she thought that kids would appreciate once they realize that it was really essential to be well prepared for the baby’s arrival and kept on doing everything.
    In her entire stay for the whole month she had to go through lots of emotional distress as her kids wanted her to sit and relax and she was not able to convince them the importance of readiness before the baby’s arrival. She also explained them any emergency could occur in pregnancy and then they would not have time for anything.
    But this modern generation was not ready to listen. She also told them that if they do not require her help for the delivery then they can plan whatever they like as she knew that this modern generation is smart, intelligent. But she was only worried about their laid back attitude as sometimes you cannot wait until last minute.
    As a result of these differences there was a tension among them and she could not understand why this smart generation was not ready to understand her pure intension with lots of planning and management.
    Her daughter had already ordered almost hundred items for baby which included everything from clothes, toys etc. Her daughter was telling her to sit with her and talk about the books or the other items she can buy for the baby rather than doing other stuff. She was trying to explain her that they should take one step at a time. She said that they could not skip the important step and think about next situation.
    On one hand her daughter was telling her to give her motherly advice for her pregnancy but was never ready to listen to the important aspects of this journey.
    My friend was feeling guilty as what did she do wrong which created lots of emotional stress among them even though being a concerned mom she had no other intention then taking care of her daughter and granddaughter.
    As she has to go back for her daughter’s delivery she is scared as how her kids would react to her pure intentions.
    When she asked me I was not sure what to tell her. So ladies please I need your input about this delicate situation.
     
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  2. periamma

    periamma IL Hall of Fame

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    BHAVNAM6 your friend has done nothing wrong and her DD also done nothing wrong..If we think for a while we can remember the same we have done to our mom.Ask your friend not to worry.These are all common factors existing in families.
     
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    Re: What did my friend do wrong in dealing with her daughter and son-in-law ?

    This is generation gap. Both are right in their own way and both are concerned over each other.

    The thumb rule is ...after children's marriages when parents visit them better to follow the rules of their house. Some may sound silly to the parents....but still it is their house. In that way relationships can be maintained better and both would look forward to their next visit. Good relationship is more important than....."I am right." When they want help help and when they do not step back.
     
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    Re: What did my friend do wrong in dealing with her daughter and son-in-law ?


    u are 500% right,
    it is thumb rule, if daughter wants help just provide as much as she needs, coz end of the day it is her house, moving things around the daughter's house as it is her own may be only considered as trying to boss around, if possible let the daughter go to her mother's house for delivery then after abt 2 -3 months go back to her apartment and handle everything by herself.
     
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    The thing is, we, today's generation, strongly believe in ' have one's cake and eat it too' policy. Better mother shows self restrain and do what is asked for and what she is comfortable with. That way she will not feel guilty and children do not feel suffocated.
     
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    Hi,

    Same situation happened to me, once i was not feeling well MIL came to take care of me and she use to work in kitchen upto 12 hours(she is also slow in completing task as she is older), as you stated in the mail, Actually it made me and DH to put us in very stressfull situation.
    Because, she is also near 60 and have some health issue, we don't want her to take too stressfull works, first thing is we need mental support and some homemade simple food but, she spent whole week with the kitchen work and cooking.
    Sometime she use to wash kitchen clothes at 10.00PM, these are all make us fell guilty and now we don't ask her to come when i am not feeling well.
    Mother or MIL making them as a servants in thier own childrens home may be happy for them but, we don't want that. We want little help and they have to take some rest and chitchat with us whenever they come to home :)

    Hope your Friends Daughter may be in our mind set.
     
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    Hello Pariamma madam,

    Thank you for visiting my thread.
    You are absolutely right that we had the same generation gap with our mom. As long as I remember I think we believed in their experience and expertise and were very careful about showing our objection toward them if at all we disagreed with them.

    Bhavna
     
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    Re: What did my friend do wrong in dealing with her daughter and son-in-law ?

    Hello Everybody,

    It was really interesting to hear from the younger generation.It is really helped to understand the mindset of this younger generation.

    However I forgot to mention couple of things in my post.

    Few months ago my friend had visited her kids in their old apartment as a pleasure trip. She had noticed at the time also that it needed to be straightened.But she did not touch anything and did exactly what her kids told her to do like watching movies, going to the restaurants with them,taking tour of the city and all kind of fun stuff.
    What she is trying to say that the whole situation is different this time as welcoming new baby demands lots of planning and preparation and they should not take it too easy in this beautiful journey of welcoming new angel in their house.

    As Emerald44 suggested that a daughter can go to mom's house for the delivery and that is the exactly my friend recommended her kids. But this new generation has new concept of being parents. They believe that would be dad should be around when the baby is born to get bonded with her by changing diapers and all other kind of stuff. So if at all they decide to come to mom's house for the delivery their parental bonding would be missed for initial period of time. It does not matter if it is only for one or two months.

    What my friend is worried about that in case of any emergency she would be panicked if she herself can not find the stuff needed in her house and also being 60 years old she is going through menopausal state and forgets lot of things and suffering lack of confidence in chores around the house and running errands for them.
    All she is requesting is to provide her their house where she can show her 100% ability to work since no one else is there to help her at the time of delivery.

    I would welcome all your feedback from younger generation and my generation as well.

    Bhavna
     
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    For any person living in a unorganised house is so difficult when the person live there whole life as organised.

    That's the most basic point it.Your friend simply can't live in her daugtehrs house as they unorganised.

    Her daugther would feel defended the way she was working.And it's natural reaction.

    sometimes I go to my unorganised friends house and I feel like I need to cleanup something as long I am in the house.The other person doesn't feel that.I heard some people if they house is not messy they can't live.

    One thing your friend should understand her daugther going to be fine.Weather she is there or not there.Weathere she organises or not.When critical time comes everyone takes care of there own lifes.

    If she doesn' find probably they will go to shop and buy.Because everyone had credit cards and lot of shopping malls.These days are not like earlier where people are short of money or worry about spending.

    She should cearly tell her daugtehr,this is how I livied all my house and it's extermely difficult for me to live in the house which unorganised.If I have to stay there,I have to some adjustments to your house then only I can help.Otherwise you can look other alternatives.

    As a mother she can't.But instead of worrying in mind,it's better speak up.Botton line,ask her not to worry about her daughter much.They will fine.When DD asks for her help,your friend should know where to draw a line wihtout our doing.

    When she goes for delviery,probably they need to hire a maid for help and let your friend enjoy with the new born.Ask her not to do all domestic work.They should hire a maid for help.
     
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    I had similar issue when my mom came for my delivery, she spent most of her time rearranging kitchen...I was stressed initially...but later knew very well my mom...coz she likes to keep her way and after baby it will be more helpful for her. I let her go like that...still my kitchen is her way and my baby is 11 yrs old :). Iam sure I would do same for my girl...

    Mom's or MIL are not our entertainers...they have their own wish and mind. These are small things they are going to get enjoyment.
     
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