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V is a sign of survival!

Discussion in 'Cheeniya's Senile Ramblings' started by Cheeniya, Oct 24, 2007.

  1. Viswamitra

    Viswamitra IL Hall of Fame

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    The finger signs are always very confusing. A raised thumb is used for asking for lift for someone who is driving on the highway. Sometimes, it is used for the successful result as well. We recently, went through a middle finger shown by a young cricketer to the Australian fans generating a Sify cartoon "I don't care whether I know where my middle stump is but I know where my middle finger is".

    What puzzles me is the frequent use of the first three fingers for every sign and the 4 & 5 being a silent spectator to all signs. Why are we partial with those two fingers? Are they silent contributors? The ring finger at least gets a golden crown for its existence by a few or if you get the hand of a bride in some cases.

    Even when the children wants to express their intention not to talk with someone, they bend the second and third finger making a zero sing in between. It is perhaps an indication of two personalities in loggerheads. When they want to send a peace sign they show those two fingers together which obviously indicates the togetherness of those two personalities. Even when we wait anxiously for a result, we tell that let us keep the fingers crossed.

    If you watch American football, the quarterback shows a sign joining fingers in both hands to indicate that all players should assemble quickly to commence the next play in the interest of time. Umpires in cricket have so many different signs for different judgment. showing the second finger up is a sign that a player is out and needs to go. Moving right hand rapidly three times towards the sky is a sign of commencing the Power Play and if it is done once it is a free hit. The wings on both sides means wide where as one hand in front means no ball. Both hands up means a six runs and the right hand moving in front in quick succession means four runs.

    It is amazing how much body language we use to indicate different things. Lastly, I was not sure whether Churchill was showing V sign to indicate victory or to keep the British people happy that we would not allow the Germans to occupy their land. While V Sign with palm outwards is a Victory or # 2 sign, when it is shown with palm inwards is an insult.
     
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  2. Cheeniya

    Cheeniya Super Moderator Staff Member IL Hall of Fame

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    Dear Priya
    Until the advent of Amma, the Seed was the basic unit of all botanical science but as you have rightly observed, the basic unit has sprouted into two leaves now!

    The V behind the head being indicative of a bakra's horns was known from my childhood days. I remember showing it behind my dad's head when I was a lad of ten! But why bakra? Can't it be any other animal depending upon the individual characteristics of the man in question?

    Moms don't look fresh before they get to use whatever concoction required to make the kadai sparkling clean. The moment the stuff is in their hands, they become instantly fresh as their kadai.
    I'll look for the V mudra next time I attend a dance recital in my Sabha
    Sri
     
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    Cheeniya Super Moderator Staff Member IL Hall of Fame

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    Dear viswa
    That was a very educative treatise on body language. We all have hands but very few use them effectively in communication. There is a school for speech and hearing impaired close to my house. I am always amazed at the speed with which they use their hands to talk to each other. They joke with their hands, scold each other with them, narrate a story or even gossip. I have seen Jothika doing it beautifully in the film 'Mozhi'

    When you say the first three fingers, do you mean the thumb, index and middle fingers? I always count with my little finger first. I would like to know the correct procedure of using fingers for counting. If it is different from how I do it, it may be difficult for me to change over to the correct procedure at this stage of my life.
    Sri
     
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    Dear Viswamitra,

    Yes, fingers and hands have a different language of their own. Varies from culture to culture.

    I was reading somewhere that after the mouth our hands speak a lot. Tie your hands and try to speak, it would not have the same impact and our expression also becomes limited. Sometimes...a little pat on the back to encourage some one, putting your hands around shoulders of a grieving person, small touches, a smile, holding hands with loved one.....all these speak volumes more than thousand words put together.

    We see how hearing impaired people speak with each other with perfect ease and enjoy their conversations more than speaking with mouth.

    Syamala
     
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    Dear Cheeniya Sir,

    I am sorry I used the #s as reference in my response. Even I used to count starting from pinky and go up to thumb while counting. As you know, in America everything is reverse. When they count, they start from their thumb first and go up to pinky. Moreover, their standardization is beyond limits and in order to make the names thumb, index, middle, ring and pinky understandable to everyone they called it # 1-5 in that order.

    I am always amazed by the variations in little things from the rest of the world and America. Everyone started using Metrics for measurement while they continue to use old unit measurement. The whole world adopted to Pal in television manufacturing and they remained in NTSC format. The whole world calls the opening to access the engine in the car as bonnet and the storage space in the back of the car as dickey while the Americans call it as hood and trunk. The cars in most of the countries are right-hand drive while in the US all of them are manufactured left-hand drive by default except the US Mail vehicles. We drive on the right side of the road while most countries drive on the left side of the road. In the interest of time, I am not listing the rest of the differences in this response.

    Shyamala, you are absolutely right. It is true if we tie the hands of people, they can't speak fluently. We communicate more through our hands than the words. Culturally, they are different in each continent. Unless, we are familiar with each continent's culture, it might land someone in trouble. For example, when we go to Japan, we need to give and receive business cards holding them in both hands as they consider the business card as representation of the person. In America, in most meetings, people give their business card as though they were discarding playing cards. If we accidentally, do that in Japan, the meeting will come to an end abruptly. Also, the Americans have the habit of writing the phone numbers and other details in the business card. In Japan, writing on the business cards is a big no no.

    Viswa
     
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    Cheeniya Super Moderator Staff Member IL Hall of Fame

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    Dear Syamala
    Swami Vivekananda delivered some monumental speeches with his characteristic pose of folding his hands in the front. He hardly used his hands in putting across his points but then he had very inspiring things to tell the youth which did not require any body language to support!

    Nowadays only the bodies speak, not the mouth!
    Sri
     
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    My dear Anna

    Seeing everyone's fbs I also wanted to post something

    About Vs I only know V is Vinayaka, Victory, V for Vijayalakshmi, Venkateswara, Vel Muruga

    Veettukku Veedu Vasappadi

    Verri Vel Muruganukku Haroharohara

    Veenaga Chelavu Cheyyadhe (this is my own)
     
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    Cheeniya Super Moderator Staff Member IL Hall of Fame

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    My dear Viji
    To me, v means only one thing. VIJI, Iyerviji, my dearest sister!
    Sri
     
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