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Discussion in 'General Discussions - USA & Canada' started by shree, Jan 29, 2009.

  1. Laks09

    Laks09 Moderator Staff Member IL Hall of Fame

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    Tranquility, I think I get your question - NRIs invest for various reasons. I don't think they intend to exploit the residents by selling off their assests at a premium - the intention is to make a profit. Yes, it is for personal gain but I don't see anything wrong with it.
    One reason I would invest in India even if I were living elsewhere is because I'd like to diversify my assets. In other words, I would not want all my assests to be in one place, risking losing everything. I think it is a very smart move to invest in India too, financially speaking.

    Talking about Kochi, the State of Kerala has always depended on NRI money to thrive. So the price rise is a direct impact of that. I think it is a fair deal.If they stop investing, imagine what will happen to Kerala. I'd rather have them invest.
     
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    tranquility Bronze IL'ite

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    Laks09, even though I agree quite a bit with what you say, unfortunately you are digressing from the point here ... I didn't intend to start a discussion on the cause / effects / implications of economic investments - all I wanted to understand is .....

    Why do people who want to settle out here (I'm not talking about people working abroad for few years) still want to keep India as their second home .... ??

    a) is it some inner fear of what may happen to them tomorrow inspite of being a naturalized citizen ....
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    b) is it that their second home in India is nothing but an investment in India for personal gain
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    c) is it that over a period of time, people start to miss the very things in India which they once despised strongly while moving out ?

    I just added another premise to the original topic and wanted to find out the "why ? s" behind this ....

    No hard feelings .... just curious ....
    :cheers
     
  3. Laks09

    Laks09 Moderator Staff Member IL Hall of Fame

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    Tranquility,
    Absolutely didn't have any hard feelings. You have a point.

    If I were settled abroad I would still have a second home in India for a few of these reasons -

    1) Maybe at retirement if my savings are not adequent then I can always decide to live in India at that time.

    2) To have a vacation home in India where I can spend a few months every year. Even if I was settled elsewhere I would still want to spend time here yearly.

    3) As I said earlier, to diversify my assests. If the economy elsewhere crashes, I still have an asset in India that I can dispose off if need be.

    4) To stay in touch with my roots. Just because I decided to stay away, does not mean I'm going to cut off totally from my culture.
     
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    tranquility Bronze IL'ite

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    Laks,

    I see your point. Thats exactly where we (shree, u, me) agreed upon.... just to recollect what u said..."Even after becoming a US cit, I still found racial discrimination at whatever level bothered me. The best motto is make the money and get out while you can!"....

    But whenmembers of the forum start taking it personally without understanding other's viewpoints or even understanding the posts and think that this thread is particularly a fault finder (since some members make comments like people not liking here should go back to india so that others get job in US, or that India needs investment from NRIs .. well, then same would apply to settled abroad indians... invest in the country where one has settled, so at least an average indian staying in India does not have to put up with the soaring prices.. )
    Thats when I elaborated just to clear the air around and had to be straight that lets stop pretentious talk about Indian economy when actually its for personal gain.

    Laks, the bottomline is that ... (well again its not for u.. )
    when the settled abroad people have left the home country for good, why would they want to come back to the same old rut whenever in life? The above question is only food for thought..:coffee And heart of hearts if they do, they shouldn't be bragging too much about the country they've settled in.... (yes laks, they do when they come to india, u should listen how they brag.. maybe because they feel superior in terms of earning in dollars and spending in rupees !!! ) because ultimately how much ever one tries to become a roman in rome, they will still feel alienated....
    I think we both alone have shared so many of our viewpoints that now lets wait for others to chip in too...what say?;-)
    Nice discussion i must say.. :thumbsup
     
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    Is this true in all the cases ?

    What about people who come as refugees ?

    what about people who get citizenship b'cos they want their siblings to come and make money ?
    what about people who have moved illegally and worked all their life and who cannot go back to home country without getting citizenship ?
    What about girls who marry citizens of other country ?
    What about people who work for more than 20yrs in US and who pay SS benefits,tax and medicare for government ?
    What about babies who are born in US because their moms cannot go back to India for delivery.
    You cannot put everyone is same blanket.
    There are so many ifs and buts.Without walking in other people's shoes you cannot make comments like that.

    What do you mean by mark my words ?
    You mean to say there is no discrimination in India ?There is something called as reservation in India which is a total discrimination .
    Its personal choice why u, me or anybody wants to settle.But nobody has right to make comments about people who made decision to stay outside India.Everybody has right to discuss why they want to settle in one or other place but no one has right to write about other people's decision.

    FYI I'm moving back to India in 2011.I don't have a US citizenship.I'm happy for my decision but I have lots of friend who have decided to stay back and I really don't find anything wrong with that.The reason why I came and commented on this thread is the attitude of some people who wrote in this thread.

    This will be last post in this thread.

    Thanks
    Mangaii
     
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    :cheers :cheers :cheers :cheers :cheers :cheers
     
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    Mangaii,
    I was putting forward MY OPINION about racial discrimination and how it irked me because I'm an American and there is no LAW stating I had to be discriminated against but I still found instances where I was. Those might have been small instances but it still irked me.

    And again, I said it was MY MOTTO to make it and leave. That is personal opinion again. You are free to have your own opinion. I definitely felt you took my statement and made a BLANKET statement too!
    Btw, talking about commenting on other people's decision, I made a personal remark regarding MY decision and you commented on it right? I didn't discuss anyone else, other than myself and you chose to take my statement and generalize it.

    Btw, glad to know you are moving back in 2011. I also have friends and family who have stayed back and it's their choice. I made MY choice and I'm happy with it. I participated in the thread because I felt I could put in my two cents regarding life in general after moving back and my intent was not for anyone to take my statements personally.

    Tranquility,
    Understand your view on personal gain. I guess I did think of personal gain myself too. If not for the guy I wanted to desperately marry, I would not have even gone. So can't say I'm a saint.

    L
     
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    tranquility Bronze IL'ite

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    Dear Laks,

    I really appreciate ur frankness and maturity on the subjectBow. I think we both think on similar lines... Discussions are not to be taken personally. Everyone has a righ to share their viewpoints. Nobody was questioning the morality of their decisions.... Only the curiosity of "why" which I think is the subject of the thread anyways... If some people get agitated and affected by such things, they may as well not participate in such discussions. Anyways as u know laks, at every stage in life we come across varied variety of people.. So chill maadi..:thumbsup
     
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    hi friends,

    i started this thread to just know the reasons behind the indians who wanted to settle abroad.

    we r not here to criticise anyones attitude or to comment about some ones decision. at the same time we cannot bear any indian who is keep on talking bad about India esp in front of americans.

    s i agree that people in India r facing lot of problems, who in this world is not under any problem.
     

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