The Eternal Myth

Totally fun!!! At the cost of repeating here's a joke - once an Indian editor went to Russia and was curious about what is written in the news papers there. So he asked a person who speaks English to explain and the man said that their new papers are filled with 'truths, half truths and lies' and explained like this further to the puzzled editor. The truth is all in the sport section, half truths in the weather section, and the rest is all lies

So while our Mr.weatherman may be right half the time, you are better off carrying a little umbrella or simply getting drenched in the rain Enjoy your trip!!

Dear cheeniya sir, sorry to have diverted the thread - now after interacting with oj-da i do realize why ILs miss him here. I look forward to hearing your feedback and take the thread back to the 'eternal myth' that you had started speaking about!

 

Dear Sri:

Like Srama, I too feel uncomfortable for having turned your space into my chat room. But then, knowing you, I am sure you are not mad at me for my little slips. Btw, why have you stopped writing? How does one write when Cheeniya doesn't?

oj

 

Things appear when it is being observed. Scientist are struggling with this truth as it is against physics. In Biology of Belief, Dr.Bruce Lipton indicates that Protons appear when observed. How can one thing be in two different places at the same time? Is science disproving itself? We have to begin to accept some of the scientific theories that existed before were not complete. One of the greatest Gurus in India said science is like C and spirituality is like O. The science when it completes the circle, it would converge with spirituality. He described that the science believes that the distance between the beginning to the end of a dot is a full circle while the spirituality believes that it is an instant access. May be that is why learned people said that the distance between the Universal Absolute and ourselves is the distance between us and our Self.

Dr.Lipon also disproves all earlier scientific theories that gene of a person plays an important factor in behavior, health and body composition. Dr.Lipton scientifically proves that gene plays no role in any of those and it is the environment that determines all of the above. He proves that cells live in a city of environment and they interact and behave in a particular fashion which has no bearing with the gene.

Michael Talbot in his book, "The Holographic Universe" indicates that every person's physical appearance is what is being assumed by the mind of each individual as every being is nothing but a hologram. The psychics are able to see the hologram and even some physicians do see the hologram of the people but won't accept it as they would be excommunicated by the physicians community. They have admitted their seeing holographic image of their patience in private conversations. By making some changes to the hologram, even a human body could be cured. In this book, I came to know for the first time that whatever we see in this world is not direct image of the object falling in the screen through our pupil. Actually, before the object gets on the screen, our brain interrupts and presents its past experience and project an image in to our screen. That is why the same object could appear differently for two different people.

After reading all these difficult subjects, I came to the conclusion whether it is direct interaction or internet discussions, I have no idea who I am talking to and how they look like. My humble opinion is either way it is just our perception and not real.

Viswa

 

The opening paragraph with the venerable Berkeley's hypothesis sort of skidded over my head, as I read the article in an incipient stupor , after a considerably heavy dinner of pesarattu+ korma+onion pacchadi. And that dinner was no mirage that came into existence just because I observed the dinnerplate. The reality of it is still gurgling inside my belly right now.

Are acquaintances of the Virtual world the only unknowable phantoms we interact with ? What about the so-called Real World in Real Time ? Can we honestly claim to "know" the persons we call a friend, a colleague, a parent, a spouse, a sibling ? Our perception of each of them is limited to what they choose to reveal of themselves to us . Often, our concept of a person is only an amalgam of our opinions ( however skewed or prejudiced) about their words and deeds and the general perceptions of the immediate circles that enclose both of us. There is the ever present, but unacknowledged, danger that it could be a faulty concept or , at the most, an incomplete one.

We are all islands , strangers to each other, except when we scrape against one another due to social necessity. In that event , we play out our conditioned / programmed parts to our best advantage (Just the other day, I was reading your article about the "absolute necessity" of etiquette , to keep society civil and well oiled ! )

Virtual world , on the other hand, gives one the chance to be what one IS or wants to be. As I see it, most people who go Virtual are lonely, vulnerable and basically just looking for some affection and acceptance . This matters very much because one draws nourishment from words of appreciation or acceptance, the balm to soothe the innumerable abrasions caused by the harsh real world . The Real World has neither the duty nor the charity to keep one happy and humoured always.

The biggest attraction that the Virtual World offers is the cloak of Anonymity. We are just names ( and avatars) free to be interpreted as any personality. What The Others think of one does not matter so much as other's opinion does in the real world.
Had I , Priya, met you, Cheeniya Sir, in a bakery or a staff-room, I doubt if I could have worked up the gumption to start jabbering like a crazed parrot , right after saying hullo. But I could do it here ! Because, to me you are just a fecund mind with a sprightly pen/keyboard. And it does not matter a whit to me whether , in real life, you are a superannuated bihari policeman or an anglo-indian seamstress. What matters to me is that I can share the thoughts in my mind with another mind that shows interest in reading what i tap out. Anonymity helps me to be myself, without my having to resort to socially approved masks.

I have been around a few sites and always been myself . There was only one instance where I had an unpleasant experience. Some years ago, in one of the popular gaming and networking sites, I "friended" a person named " Uma " and we had many interesting discussions via the "Chat box" Then it was slowly revealed that Uma was not a lady but a man named Umashankar . I found my misconception funny, but carried on. Then he started saying he was unhappy with his cold natured wife, how happy his chats with me make him feel etc etc. I quickly unfriended him, but he started flooding my inbox with weird messages. My ( then-)husband suggested I should "reveal" to him the "truth" that I was really a middle aged widower with 3 sons and that would derail him ! I merely quit the scene. It is funny in retrospect, but it was quite scary at that time. Now when I think of it, I feel its not something that could not have happened in real world too. How often we read news of conmen victimising women ! Real or Virtual, people can be inscrutable .

Berkeley's world may have been a figment of his imagination. But at least he was there to imagine it. He probably never heard of Sri Ramana's famous question : 'Who am I ?" Whose imagination was he ? or you ? or I ? Its mindboggling and leaves me humming "Baba" Rajnikanth's song : " Maya-Maya ! Ellaam Maya !"

 

First paragraph is Greek and Latin to me.

Anonymity gives a lot of courage to say things which we otherwise would not say....contradicting, disagreeing. Direct in person we are more tongue tied. I recently met a cyber friend in person...we used to argue vehemently, agree, disagree on a lot of topics. But when met in person...conversation was limited to small talk and basic courtesies.