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Discussion in 'Snippets of Life (Non-Fiction)' started by SGBV, Jan 30, 2017.

  1. SGBV

    SGBV IL Hall of Fame

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    At the heels of women’s march in the US, I feel it is not a bad idea to discuss a few controversial topics here now.

    I read a FB meme, that says “women are marching for the right to kill their children”. Another meme says abortion is the evil reverse image of the motherhood. Instead of saying I will die for you, it says you die for me.

    Some people argue that if you are pronounced dead when your heart beat stops, then why you are not pronounced alive when your heart starts beating? So obviously abortion is killing a life.

    Yes, abortion is morally wrong beyond religious perspectives. It is equal to murder, more so, killing your own baby.

    At the same time, killing is not always considered wrong. Even so many religions accept killing if that is done for a good purpose. You can kill an animal to consume it. You can kill an animal to make experiments which helps the human in return.

    So, in wider perspective killing doesn’t always amount to crime. It is accepted widely with a good justification. So why not abortion is justified?

    The people who oppose the abortion with a religious or political mask, often forget to understand their other face which contradicts to their religion.

    The ones who doesn't feel the pain of an abandoned refugee children, or the ones who try to create differences between locals and immigrant speaks volumes about religion, which fundamentally preaches about love, and that too how to love one another.

    They comfortably forget their religious teaching when they bomb innocent people in the middle east and Afghan. They make refugees by selling weapons to the militia, they make refugees by indirectly influencing to the arm conflicts, yet they do not accept refugees - the poor, vulnerable victims of the man made disaster. Yet they claim to be religious by banning abortion and homosexuality as they are not accepted in their religious books.

    Not just the Trumps, but the supporters who proclaims to be conservatives or religious in this regard fails to understand why they chose to lead a modern life otherwise?

    You opt for Viagra and feel good about your impotency. You don't wanna accept that your impotency is a gift from God, thus you must obey what God has planned for you. But you are not ready for abortion citing God's plans can not be reversed.

    If pregnancy is God’s plan, then why there is so much medical interventions when it comes to fertility treatments? Let the childless people accept it as God’s plan and move on?

    I feel none of these religious agenda works here, if you wanna apply gospel without understanding its meaning.

    It doesn’t mean I support to “abortion” either.

    Well, abortion could be an option when it is done for a good cause. Be it saving a mom, saving the child from life threatening illness etc.

    But how come it is accepted when it is done out of convenience?

    It is not just sex and semen. It is life, and it is your child.

    How come killing a child is so acceptable just like killing an animal? Well, I hear some of you murmur on what basis I could say the life of an animal is less important than a child? I know.. It is not. Because both are lives.

    But then, an animal is not killed for our convenience. No one kills an animal just because they don’t like it. If that happens, it surely raises concerns.

    Well, what happens if you force a mother to carry her child against her will? Can a law make an unwilling woman a mom?
    Can this society who shout against abortion come forward for adoption? So that these 'unwanted children' would feel wanted somewhere?
    What is the use of making children, and then treating them unwanted all their lives?

    Is abortion the only solution for unwanted pregnancy? Don’t we know that there is protection? Don’t we know there are morning after pills if something goes beyond your control?
    Don't we have sex education, and awareness on this?
    If not, why don't we invest in educating our youngsters of the existing laws, system, medical advancements etc concerning to this matter?

    There is a solution already for the unwanted pregnancy. Thanks to the advanced medical system, that you are not required to carry a child after each and every sexual pleasure.

    But if you are conceived out of carelessness, then you are not justified to punish your unborn child for this? It is a crime.

    Please pour your opinions in this regard.
     
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  2. satchitananda

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    Abortion is a very sensitive issue and it is very hard to pass judgments on mothers who choose to go for it. In this case I would say 'to each one her own'. It is not for others to tell a mother whether she should bear a kid or not.

    The situation that you are referring to is a case of simple misogyny. Women according to the President should be punished for abortions. This is the same person who thinks it is alright to sexually abuse women.

    So what should women do:

    • If they are raped and the child is the product of the crime?
    • If they realize that they have HIV and are likely to pass on the infection to their child?
    • If they find out they have cancer and have the option of giving birth to a child which will be orphaned at a very early age, possibly even before it recognizes the parents?
    • If the pregnancy is likely to be a risk to the mother's life thus resulting in the possibility of the child having to be born without a mother?
    It's high time human beings learned that it is not a great idea to play God or to judge others for how they handle a sensitive issue in their own lives.
     
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  3. KashmirFlower

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    as of I know in India except gender based abortion, abortion is legal even for married couple, if they don't want a child at that point of time.

    I don't understand this in US, I asked my american colleague, when Obama contesting for second term, is abortion not legal here in US at this point of time? she said it is legal. Then they want to cancel that existing and impose new law? I didn't understand may be she also didn't know what is current law, I didn't do any research either.
    Hillary Clinton said in her debates, it is better to leave it to doctors. I agree, case by case, considering whole family unit and the woman who is bearing a child with her wish as priority it should happen.
     
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    I second @satchitananda

    It is not our place to decide what should happen to the child. In my opinion, most mothers who go for abortion do it because they can't keep the baby, for whatever reasons. If they could, they would not dream of aborting their child. Yes, there could a minuscule number who don't care, but I believe, Karma will deal with them. Blanket ban on abortion is like banning all refugees just because some of them are rotten apples. What do you think will happen? These unwanted kids will be left to the mercy of the foster care system. They are abused in all possible ways and they become hardened criminals.

    This is with reference to the US only. I WILL NOT support it in India, simply because of our history of killing unborn girl children.

    On a slightly tangent topic, I disagree with banning refugees. Especially Kids, who have been refused refuge, will harden because of the all conflict they have seen in their young lives. More so, after they know, the world looked the other way when they were suffering. We will be sowing the seeds for a more violent future.

    In this regard, I am proud of India and it's culture. She has welcomed everyone who came to her asking for refuge. Inspite of the fact some of them turned out to be snake that bit the arm that fed, we still welcome the vulnerable.

    At this point all we pray for the world, is this -

    asato mā sadgamaya (From ignorance, lead me to truth)

    tamasomā jyotir gamaya (From darkness, lead me to light)

    mrityormāamritam gamaya (From death, lead me to immortality)

    OM śhānti śhānti śhāntiḥ
     
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  5. blissofmylife

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    No contraceptive is 100% effective. Period! Having said that, to keep or abort a child is the mother's choice. Period!
    None except the mom can be the best judge of the situation.
     
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    Yes, there is a movement to amend existing law, at least as a prelude to repealing it completely, with the goal of making abortions difficult to obtain, to disallow state funding for it and in the limit case, to make it illegal. This has been a point of contention since the landmark 1973 rulings on Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton. No matter what your moral position on the matter, reading about it is a good education in jurisprudence. If you want to look into it beyond Wikipedia, this is a good start.
     
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  8. KashmirFlower

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    Thank You @sokanasanah for the links. Interesting to see the graph of oppose vs favor. It is varying so much with time. almost 50 -50 in some years but favoring people are more at any time.
    may be trump's one of next things is to work on this. I remember he is towards pro-life.
     
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  9. sokanasanah

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    It is what is known as a "wedge issue" - something that one can use to get people riled up, while they are being robbed blind elsewhere. Misdirection for political pickpockets.:roflmao:
    In india, because of overpopulation (and cultural failings re: sex selection), abortion has become more palatable.
     
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    yeah, he may forget about this in action.:):), only elections time debate subject.
     

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