Pahalgam Tourists Attack

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    20250512_142538.jpg it has been a shame for Trump , paki violating it within few hours
     
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    Lots of fake news and fake videos from both sides India and Pakistan.
    We have to wait and see.
    There is also news saying,
    India hit the tunnel entrance of the nuclear weapons storage facility in Kirana hills near Mushaf Airbase (Sargodha), with a precise hit designed as a warning, not to blow it up.

    That warning shot panicked Pakistan into begging for a ceasefire.
     
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    Yes. But nothing better can be expected from a rogue nation like Pakistan.
    Many indian civilians died in poonch(border town)
    India should have been better prepared for the people living across the LOC .
    Their lives do matter as like the pahalgam tourists.
     
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    This created a mini earthquake and that is what triggered Pakistan to panic and reach out to the United States is my understanding. Even Chinese read this happening remotely and informed the United States.
     
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    Operation Sindoor has redefined India’s stance on terrorism. A new era of zero tolerance, precision, and resolve. The world watches as India leads with strength and clarity
    At least three Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) terrorists were killed in encounter with Indian Army in the Zinpather Keller area of Shopian in South Kashmir on Tuesday.

    Two among them have been identified as Shahid Ahmed Kuttay and Adnan Shafi of LeT/TRF.
     
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    Exactly! it's incredibly difficult to discern the truth on the ground with the flood of fake news circulating. The announcement of the ceasefire agreement came as a surprise, especially amid the many conspiracy theories being discussed.

    I have friends on both sides. Well-educated professionals, yet their perspectives are deeply biased, understandably due to the sensitivity of the issue. While they typically refrain from sharing unverified media, their Facebook timelines are filled with one-sided narratives, each claiming victory for their respective nations.

    That said, many anticipated that Pakistan wouldn’t be able to withstand India’s growing global dominance. However, some reports argue that India’s French-made fighter jets are outdated and that the country should invest in newer technologies, similar to what Pakistan is reportedly acquiring with China's support.

    Despite announcing the war, India’s acceptance of the proposed ceasefire may have been influenced by Pakistan’s unexpectedly strategic countermeasures, albeit on a smaller scale.

    Technically, Pakistan's government has agreed to the ceasefire, but the country still harbours numerous terrorist factions that operate independently and disregard governmental agreements with India and the U.S. Under such conditions, there’s a risk that Pakistan could violate the ceasefire at any time while maintaining plausible deniability.

    Tragically, there have been significant casualties on the Indian side, whereas India claims the lives lost on Pakistan's end were mostly terrorists. Unverified reports are also circulating about a female Indian pilot allegedly being captured by Pakistan. This, too, requires confirmation.

    The economic fallout is yet another serious consequence of the war. No nation, especially a growing economy like India—would want its progress derailed in the name of conflict. The postponement of the IPL reflects broader disruptions, with uncertainties surrounding the return of international players.

    Flight cancellations, setbacks in the tourism sector, and a steady decline in the stock market further highlight the toll. Pakistan faces similar, if not more severe, challenges. However, given that its economy is already struggling, there’s arguably less at stake for them in terms of economic loss.

    In fact, both the governments failed to satisfy their citizens prior to this war, and there are rumours that they used this war to gain popularity again ahead of the fresh elections.
    Support for Modi as 'Best Choice for PM' Falls from 66% to 24% in a Year, India Today Poll Finds in 2024. This is no different with the current economic fallout in Pakistan.
    Besides, US arm trade is a new agenda, both countries should be aware of. French and Russian backed India and Chinese backed Pakistan may chose to buy weapons from the US hereafter.

    "In war, there are no true heroes—only survivors. The real heroes are those who prevent war from ever beginning"
    So, there is nothing to be proud of engaging in a war.
     
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    @SGBV,

    I agree war is not beneficial to either country as nothing will be gained but economic adversity. However, knowing a terrorist camp located in Pakistan was responsible for the terrorism in Pahalgam, Government of India has a right to defend the country. However, what is important is whether the attack is proportionate.

    America went to war with Afghanistan for 9/11 attack on American soil and that war continued for a decade and more.
    Israel attacked Hamas because of terrorism in Israel territory but the war is still ongoing and going out of proportion.
    Even in Sri Lanka, LTTE was eliminated as they carried out so many terror attacks but in the process there were collateral damages to Tamilians.

    According to American and European Union intelligence, India attacked the entrance to the nuclear facility in Pakistan and hence Pakistan reached out to the US to request for an immediate and total ceasefire. It is also open knowledge that India attacked terorists camps and later the military installations whereas Pakistan attacked on civilian territories in India.

    With respect to military equipment purchase, as you know, many advanced countries are not willing to sell their latest and greatest technologies to developing nations. They sell only what is not currently used by their military. Therefore, India, to the extent possible, relying on their own research and development and collaborative efforts with Russian military. F16s are worse than Rafale according to many military experts. BrahMos Missiles that can travel at a speed of Mach3 is an indigenous technology developed in collaboration with Russia.

    It is Pakistan that has a bleeding economy with no foreign reserves. People are starving for food. There are uprising already in Baluchistan. I believe they should focus on setting their economy straight rather than promoting terrorism as an industry. It is not sustainable in the present world.
     
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    world loves india as long it is passive and keeps taking the violence. the moment it strikes back , all of world comes and comments on multiple things. when us openly said it is a crusade ( christian term) after 911 , no one said anything.

    i can only request members who are really concerned, to help your community if you can financially or some way , either the familes of solders to improve the unity and uplift and encourage further to spread the help.
     

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