Dear V sir, As always I struggle to respond though I understand what you are saying! Chitha is usually divided into buddhi, ahankara and manas. Manas perceives and helps buddhi make connections and like you have rightly pointed put the difference between self confidence and ego. We constantly have to work at that self confidence not overflowing into ego. For that we need to have discernment - that perception without judgement. It is a tall order for our brain used to the patterns, all it wants to do is constantly judge, form opinions for self preservation. As for keeping that mind, one pointed every time I sit, it is only dharana and occasionally dhyana for a few seconds.....a looong way to go! Instead what I have paid attention to is, 'how to be an observer'. This has helped me a lot in not becoming judgmental, gives me time to ruminate and understand (if I can say so), at least has helped me be more empathetic and mind tends to stay calm for most part of the day. I am not sure if thoughtlessness can be achieved for a longer duration in wakeful state when we are engaged with prakriti. So I have learnt that the best alternative is to be an observer - of the world not just limiting to people but the nature and the mysteries. This here is the absolute crux of the matter. No matter what sorrow, difficulty or joy we are going through how we receive, process shapes how we feel about life. For most part of the life we fail to separate the idea that our souls journey is different from what we experience as minds. They just have to run simultaneously, observing going neti neti and finally coming to "I am that" - tatvamasi! Can we do it? I don't know. Can we experience it? Momentarily certainly! And it is fascinating to have some understanding that no matter the soul's journey, the karmic journey too must continue - then it all kind of becomes like pieces of puzzle put together finally. The post and the responses made me think quite a bit subconsciously and is a reminder to me that I need to be engaged in these discussions way more than I am doing right now. Thank you for the write up.