Mind Over Matter: The Meditation Club

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  1. justanothergirl

    justanothergirl IL Hall of Fame

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    Dear @Gauri03 Cant thank you enough for this thread and all the pointers from the posters here . I haven't been posting but I have downloaded the app and started this in earnest . Reminded me of the yaksha prashana..mind is faster the wind and worries (thoughts /cares) more abundant than grass. Need an efficient strategy to manage.
     
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    Laks09 Moderator Staff Member IL Hall of Fame

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    @Gauri03 - I found this on amazon and was wondering if it will help me. It suggests mindfulness and emotional regulation and supposed to help increase your desired waves(I still have a hard time knowing the difference between alpha beta and delta). It’s a type of neurofeedback but I don’t want to pay the huge amount of money NFB practitioners charge.
    I was wondering if I can buy the device for myself. I looked at the reviews and some good and others not so good. What say you? Any thoughts?
     
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    @Laks09,

    I wrote this Tip Of The Iceberg in the snippet section sometime back. It is a very high level summary (not very detailed) and may not fit your needs.

    Viswa
     
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    jayasala42 IL Hall of Fame

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    A thread with powerful rich information.Now a days we have so many Apps to help us.In earlier days women had lot of physical work at home, the schedules will be in Q waiting for their reaction and response.They didn't spend any time for meditation.They were able to manage the burden with much patience while taking care of 5 or 6 children and also attending to the needs of their married daughters.
    The patience, perseverance and no-hurry mentality with intermittent change of activities
    provided the much needed relaxation that is derived out of meditation.

    Too much importance to meditation techniques may do some harm to the individual.I wish to narrate a real incident.
    A friend of mine who was very much interested in yoga and meditation learnt the art from a Guru from a famous Yoga Institute in Madras.
    Within three months he became very calm and composed and developed a highly matured outlook in office matters.Initially it was highly welcome.Within 4 months he started losing weight fast.From 65 Kg ,it was reduced to nearly 50Kg.He started feeling that he had a halo around him. Suddenly he breathed his last at the age of 52.
    It was a blow to his family.As he begot his children late, his two sons were just 12 and 8. His wife, a teacher expressed her anguish and she blamed the process of meditation responsible for the death of her husband.
    The Yoga Institute didn't agree to what she lamented.
    Don't interpret this as negativity.
    It is better to proceed cautiously.
    My son and daughter learnt some meditation techniques from Satguru thro Video conferencing.They say it is extremely beneficial.It may not anyway change the situations but definitely helps to have correct perception of things and face the crisis with more determination.The same angry husband, the same teen age problems from children don't affect her much. She is much more confident and is in a position to advise me also.
    She was here for a week in Aug. Most of her time was spent in discussing her experience in meditation with us.
    Whatever be the method, the attitude you cultivate and the self assessment on weekly basis, helps a lot ,she says, to get over certain inhibitions and negative tendencies creeping then and there.From a highly sensitive and lamenting type ,she has transformed into a refined, calm and matured woman of 48.
    Very many thanks to the meditation techniques.

    Thank you Gauri Madam for initiating a valuable thread.

    jayasala 42
     
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  5. GeetaKashyap

    GeetaKashyap IL Hall of Fame

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    I have been reading all your posts and trying to understand the basics and a friend of mine (who is not an IL’ite) is also with me trying to follow this thread. For a while, we have been trying to learn about the spiritual aspect of meditation because she had some very vivid experiences. Her case is,


    1. She was a non-believer and she never cared to practice any of these. She doesn’t even follow ritualistic worship, scripture reading etc. She is a Hindu and believes in God/ superpower.


    2. She has always had some experiences like seeing and feeling bright warm light (on and off for over 40 years) before sleeping or while meditating or praying and according to her, it is very comforting. These are not phosphenes and she has got her eyes checked and has sought doctors’ opinion. At times it is purple or blue tinged.



    3. While praying she has felt very bright light mostly from the belly or chest region while physically no light has been there in the vicinity. She says that sensation has reduced lately.

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    4. She has had several past life recollections and luckily, we could authenticate as she was an achiever in her past life and internet has very specific pieces of information which she recollected, both visual and factual. Prior to this, she had never heard of that person. Immediately after having this experience she experienced intense golden yellow light encircling her and it stayed on with her for a while. She was not asleep when she had this experience; she was trying to fall asleep and was aware of the sounds from the neighbouring room and the road outside their building. Maybe she was in a semi-sleep state.


    5. When she tried to learn to meditate a few years ago, she could see bright lights, visions and felt some speedy movement at the forehead level (Third eye). Those days she started having experiences like seeing people (while meditating) about whom she did not know and she later came to know that they were very senior members of that religious organization and she later found out about them through the net. She was in touch with that organization for just one month. She has totally stopped going there. She has shared (with me) some of those images she sees while meditating and they are like the images given under ‘Astral projections’ on the internet!
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    6. She discontinued her meditation practice after hearing whispers (Clairaudience?) and she is scared to meditate now. All these happened very quickly within a month and a half or two!


    7. Even now whenever she tries to meditate within a couple of minutes she starts experiencing very bright light and /or movements in the forehead region. She says it is very engaging and there is a feeling is of liberation but she is scared as she doesn’t have anyone to guide her on this journey. The Internet is full of some scary information on this subject.

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    8. Whenever she has tried to discuss with some religious persons or the elderly, they either tell her not to discuss these with others but pursue meditation and some others have called these experiences as spiritual experiences and they are attributing it to her past-life good karmas.

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    1. Could anyone clarify what she has been experiencing?(She is a very balanced productive individual with no mental health issues.)

    2. Is her experience related to chakra activation or Astral projections or Astral travel?

    3. In India, whom can she approach for proper guidance? (Of late, it is scary to approach anyone!)

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  6. Gauri03

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    @Laks09 I tried but couldn't open the link. Could you share it again?
     
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    Gauri03 Staff Member Finest Post Winner

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    Good to see you here Geeta. This is utterly outside my limited knowledge. I think @Viswamitra or @jayasala42 ma'am might be able to help you. Others please feel free to jump in if you have any insight.
     
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    Gauri03 Staff Member Finest Post Winner

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    You need about a decade of meditation before I associate the word calm with you. :p

    Kidding okay! :sweatsmile:
     
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    Can we just google for mindful meditation? Maybe there was a post I missed it
     
  10. GeetaKashyap

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    Thanks, @Gauri03. I am seriously looking for answers and I hope I get it.

    Hi! I am back again.

    My friend repeatedly sees certain numbers.
    She has seen several past lives of hers, without her believing them or even attempting to know.
    Soon after the past life experience, out of blues, she started singing fairly well; she is not formally trained (she was never a singer beyond bathroom) and has also recorded a few songs for some company!

    Her fresh questions are-

    !. Why has she been singled out or blessed with these experiences when she has not pursued these practices?
    2. Are these experiences giving her any messages from some spiritual realm?
    3. Should she seek active chakra activation or follow any spiritual practices. As a non-believer, she finds it a burden to get into those deep practices, special diets et al suggested on the internet. Even her family doesn't believe or support these practices. In that sense, she is really feeling suffocated.
     
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