Media Gaslighting On Kamala Harris Vs Trump Poll Numbers

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    Media is gaslighting on Kamala Harris Vs Trump poll numbers that Kamala is much stronger to beat Trump in the presidential election.

    Democrats don't like Kamala
    Republicans don't like Kamala
    Independents don't like Kamala

    Here is who likes Kamala, the deep state. She is the perfect puppet who will giggle and nod to the deep state just to be in office.
     
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    Here is when Tulsi Gabbard dismantled Kamala out of the 2020 presidential race.

    Then the identity politics of Democrats broght her back in as VP.



     
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    Respected readers,
    I humbly put forth my opinion of dissent.
    This hostile view point is a point of view- an one-sided opinion.
    To give a fair assesment , please read article below for actual data. ... and Bloomberg is hardly democratic- if anything it is financial interests driven.
    Bloomberg - Are you a robot?
    bloomberg.com/graphics/2024-opinion-biden-accomplishment-data/

    The Biden administration has done excellent work in the last 4 years for the average american- not for the billionaire class, i admit, but the average person.
    They have not trampled on the rights of women or the vulnerable. The future of free and fair elections and democracy will be safe with them. not with the other party. I worry for the hard won rights of women in this country.

    I, and many like me, hope they will be able continue the good work.

    It is very important to seek information from multiple sources, think about facts, rather than be influenced by rhetoric, and incendiary opinions; to be fair and thoughtful in making important decisions- in every walk of life, which includes matters of health, finances and government choice.

    Please verify the facts before rushing to decision making.
    thank you for your time.

    PS- i am not involved with any political party or political interests.
     
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    I am not for the Republicans, I am not for the democrats because as the end of the day, both of them work for their own self interest and not that of the American people.

    You haven't mentioned about the original post which is on Kamala but thats okay.

    There is one line which derails your message:

    "The future of free and fair elections and democracy will be safe with them. not with the other party. "

    The question here is, is Kamala as the Democratic Presidential candidate a result of Democracy. Did the people actually vote her to be the Democratic candidate. The answer is NO. Hence the Democratic party has lost its capability to say they will ensure free and fair election and Democracy.
     
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    We are all victims of our own biases. Somehow we believe on a reality and think its white and black. Most of the authors have shown bias towards towards Biden in their previous articles and are critical of Trump.

    Lot of lofty claims in the article:
    1. Cost of living has gone down?
    2. Salaries have outperformed inflation ?


    Housing is more affordable under Biden than Trump?

    Also, how much did Biden make it happen vs riding on the success of the previous President. Did you inherit a horrible economy and make it boom( which takes a year or two ), or did you start winning from day one which shows you rode on the work of the previous government.
     
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    Media is misleading the public about poll numbers? I'll take that any day over a sitting President refusing to recognize official election results.

    About Harris not being actually elected to be the Democratic candidate - that's better than a party electing Trump as their candidate three consecutive times.
     
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    This is called wrongly biased, when one says that it is okay for X to lie because I like them and not Y because I dislike them.
     
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    2 minute video by Australian media on Kamala's speaking skills

     
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    i) It would be biased, not wrongly biased.
    ii) My post did not say that I like X or Y.
    iii) My post did not say it is OK for X to lie.

    The post said between X and Y, I find X's claims or actions more palatable. To reiterate:
    Media's false poll numbers are preferable to a President refusing to honor an election result and making the country the laughing stock of the world.
    A party that serves up Hillary Clinton, Biden, and Harris as their candidates is immensely preferable to one that can at best give us Trump 3x.

    We do not have the luxury of choosing the better of two candidates. It is more like choosing the less objectionable one.
     
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    It is sad to see focus going on her "weird laugh" - that was a comment in the video, and on her "giggle" in a post by you above. It is too much effort to fully explain how sexist these remarks are. And, how disturbing that it does not even register in the minds of many.

    As for the claims Kamala Harris makes, if they are refutable and fully or partly false, that again is no different from the claims politicians make, such as the one from Trump that he never conceded anything in hostage releases that he presided over.

    I am also interested in knowing Kamala's real weaknesses or drawbacks, but would like to read credible ones, not generic time-filler ones like in the video.

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    Between Biden and Trump, it was a tough choice. Between Kamala Harris and Trump, it is quite straightforward for me. I will not proudly be displaying an "I voted" sticker, but the vote is clear enough.
     
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