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Dear Sabita,

Fridge for one , like my maid can be a luxury, for us a necessity. As u said luxury is relative.Well said.

Yes if the money is ours, hard earned, we deserve to spend it the way we want, and i know , we will be prudent to sepnd the hard earned money,for it comes with much effort.WE deserve the comfrots we give ourselves.

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kamal

Srama said: ↑

Kamalji,

the honest truth is these words rich/poor etc are so unique and relative. If it is one's own hard earned money, I do not think one should feel guilty of spending it. Every one comes with their share of good and bad and it is not wise to compare. What seem like luxuries might look like ordinary things for the rich of the world and viceversa. Of course I don't have to tell all this. We all know it. All we can do is do our best, be our best and live our lives the best possible way in every sense of the word.

Enjoyed the snippet as always Kamalji!
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Dear Diva,

Good to know u beleive in charity, and do a lot for animals. Tha tu pay well to yr maid. This shows yr feelings for others less fortunate.

You have earned yr hard earned money, and u are entitled to all the luxuries that u desire. it is yr own money after all.

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kamal

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I loove luxury- my louboutin's (only two with plenty of self space for more), jimmy choo's and most importantly Cartier. And my friends at Cartier would be very disappointed if they dont see me often enough. We (they and I)convinced my husband, my infant daughter *needs* a love necklace to match mommy's bracelet and necklace
I am bad as my luxuries are becoming necessities.

I pay a fair (even generous wage to my cleaning lady). She earns much more than most recent college grads on a per hour basis. A nice good lady and worth every penny

But I think charity is very important- both with money AND time. I really dont want to so self absorbed not to understand my responsibility to my community and world I live in. I also want to instill those values in my children and would like to involve them as they grow older. I cannot change the worls but I want to make small changes in someone's world.

Most importantly, my huband and I are very involved with animal shelters as we LOVE animals.
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Kamalji luxuries are addictive.In my old flat I just had just one A/C but when I rented it out and moved to Sarkari accomodation when the wife got it. We installed three more A/Cs. (In our old flat one A/C was good enough to keep two rooms cool),. Earlier we used to travel byu bus to work but now even if the car goes for servicing for a day, we feel as if one of our hands is missing. We don;t have a maid to do the cleaning but a dishwasher and washing machine. The cleaning of the house is done by wife and daughter when they are in a mood.But it is done at least once a week. No need for you to feel gulty about your luxuries. You worked hard for years to earn them. And still unlike Mukesh Ambani they haven't turned your head (Imagine Mukesh cleaning toilets in that obscene megastructure, antilla).

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Dear Kamalji,
You are entitled to live a luxurious life through your hard earned money. There is no need to feel guilty about it. In fact things which were considered luxury have now become essential.
There is nothing wrong living with all comforts when one could afford it through their hard earned money.
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Kamalji,
I do echo all your statements regarding spending on one's own luxury and not to feel guilty about the same, if it is earned through hard working, acting withing means, not cheating and through righteous ways.

Sriniketan

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Kamalji,
A very thought provoking article there.....
We work hard,we are not cheating anybody so why can`t we indulge in the basic necessities which are not considered a luxury anymore.There is absolutely no need to feel guilty at all.We have all the right to safeguard a little nest egg for any kind of emergencies.

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kamalji, I completely agree with you, this is our hard money so why not enjoy it...after all world cant be flat...rich n poor will always be there...some are rich because of their destiny ...some are because of their hard work....like this some are unprivileged because of destiny (orphan kids) so we should do some charity also for the unfortunate ones....while some are poors as they have lack of vision and hard work....in a family also all siblings get same kind of exposure but not necessary they all land up on same level in terms of financial position....
I also believe in simple living although not so simple like mahatma Gandhi .....as you said you can do any kind of chores...people should have that much of humbleness... and we should not get addicted to luxuries so that if life shows us some hard time and we should be able to cope with ...
regarding maid I really think we should pay them generously but gets pissed off when I see many of them just want money and doesn't want to work properly.... and now a days a post graduate person teaching in pre school...getting 5k for 6 hrs. of work...while maids get around 3000 for cooking 2 times of food and just spending 1 hr still cribbing that they get paid very less and try to give us we are poor kind of emotional blackmail........ sometimes I get melted and sometimes I think practically....you rightly said that help should be done who is needed...if people get easy money it sets wrong example....

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coolwinds said: ↑

what a great post, arch1209! as a child i used to look at a laborer pulling one of those heavy carts and wonder how and why is that people who work the hardest are also some of the poorest.

coming to the thread and the question it poses, it's very easy to justify anything from a personal standpoint. things gets murkier when it comes to the ethics, choices and value of making such a justification.
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Cool winds sometimes I do wonder if this thought process exists only with children. The idea of injustice, and unfairness and viewing the world with all its unfairness can only exist in an innocent child's world who does not see people as haves and have nots but just as human beings.

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Dear Sri,

our elders used to say, better see poverty in young age, than in old age. The japanese are saying it the opposite eh ! god knows what is their reasoning.

like u, i too dont have many desires, i was happy with my tabletop, which does mnot get heated, gets repaired easily etc, but my brother gifted me a laptop and i got addicted to it, and now the tabletop is unsued.

i was happy with nokia phone, then brother gifted me with his used Blackberry , which was fine with me, i just got used to it, when he bought me forcefully a new samsung grand mobile, a gift from him to me.And now i am addicted to it.HAHA

But otherwise i have lost desires for new things, happy wiht the old ones, but i guess my brothers are not happy to see me in old things, .God bless the,m, they are very kind.

but yes i splurge on Air condition at night, but druing day, in myu office upstairs, since it is commercial, the rate per unit of electgricity is double of domestic, i dont use the AC, and do with the fan, in the 40 plus head, i am happy.

Well my friend Sri, there i will request to u to get a good phone, u get decent ones for 6000 to 12000 range, and go for samsung, they will bring a new life in u.HAHA.

Well i know what u can do with yr money u see.You can nominate me in yr Fixed deposits, and in yr will.HAHA

What the japanese are saying perhaps , is that, let there not be extremes in the money in yr life, let the flow of money be steady and constant, but i dont think it is practical, money is like the extreme seasons, sometimes u have lots of it, sometimes u dont have enough to buy poison. So take life with a pinch of salt, take it as it comes, and flow with the river, dont oppose it.Soon u will somewhere find the shore and the river banks .

But well, these are deep thoughts, and i am the least capable person to say anything, somethimes these articles make me think and thanks to indus i get the opportunity to discuss these with u all, and it is fun, and i get to learn so much form u all/

Regards

kamal

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My dear Kamal
There is a Japanese proverb that says poverty in youth and affluence in old age are both a curse. I have done some considerable thinking about this proverb. It makes more and more sense to me as I grow older. I have been young and I am old now. I can very well relate to this proverb. You are talking about splurging hard earned money. I have dreamed of splurging with hardly any money. The stages that we go through life teach us a lot of things but we just do not have time to stop and think about them.

Happiness is a very queer thing. It is not the exclusive attribute of the affluent. Both the have and have-not do have their moments of happiness. I have seen children in the slums along the Marina Beach playing with gay abandon and in such a state of happiness that I have hardly experienced in my life. At the same time, I have seen affluent children in a state of gloom as their mounting needs are not met by their parents. I am surprised at your take on splurging hard earned money, though nobody can have any objection to how a person spends his money that is the result of all his honest sweat. But it has always been my belief that one should be more prudent with his hard earned money and only those with tons of ill-gotten wealth indulge in mindless splurge. You have yourself written about so many of them.

Coming back to the Japanese proverb, I see its profundity now. I have enough money to splurge but my mind has distanced itself from such trivialities. I am amazed at the change that has come over me in the last decade. I'll give you an example. I have a mobile phone that remains mostly incommunicado with the outside world. When I get an overseas call from a very dear friend of mine and as we warm up to the conversation my phone goes dead! She keeps telling me to buy a new phone. And a new phone with great features is available for as low as Rs.4000/- But I keep postponing it because my present phone is not completely dead yet.

If it had been just a decade back, I would have got myself the most expensive one and flaunted it shamelessly. But money is fast losing its relevance as far as I am concerned. My needs are surely increasing but they cannot be bought for money. In such a situation that I am in now, all this talk about what people can do with their money brings only a smile on my face!
Sri
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Dear DG,

Well that is a fact, and u can find it out, that she used to fly first class.
there is a saying, And again true, Hitler was vegetarian and Mother Teressa was a nonveg.

You seem to be a great fan of hers, i can see that.please dont be very sensitive, everyone has their likes and dislikes, or degree of like. We read it in the papers, we dont go and see in their houses, do we ?

Yes we work hard, and yes we need the rich and the poor to coexist, if all were rich, life would be misery for all, for who would work for whom eh ! HAHA

No offence meant dear friend,

Regards

kamal

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Kamalji

Believe in 1/2 of what you see and nothing of what you hear. We should not say something that " we hear" or are certain of.

What She has done, no one can do...you, me or anyone else. So lets not say " I hear" she travelled in first class by donation money.

Talking of Luxury, about the maid thing - It is the circle of life. There are rich and there are poor people. Even in the animal kingdom, there are animals that eat and there are animals that are being eaten. Now if the animals decide that I don't want to eat or kill, then they would starve to death.

Similarly, in human life we need rich and poor people to balance the circle of life. I just feel lucky that I am where I am and where I was born.

Sometimes Luxury is not a luxury, it is a necessity. We strive hard and work hard to have that necessity.
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