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How Should One React To Silly Lies And To Disrespect?

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  1. nayidulhan

    nayidulhan Silver IL'ite

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    How should one react/ respond-
    1) To an employee (who works for you ie You pay them their monthly salary) running late (without informing) and not answering your calls saying their cellphone was on silent mode.

    2) To an employee taking too much time for a simple task that they would take less than 20 minutes to complete, before. (This behavior is intermittent- there are phases when the employee behaves like this and then returns to their normal efficient self after a few days . What's irritating is the fact that I can not predict their behavior)

    3) To a colleague who keeps lying for silly things. eg spreading a rumor that they R2I because they were homesick and to take care of their aging parents when the fact is that they were trying to get in touch with even shady placement consultants to continue working abroad, after their visa was no longer good. Also, their parents don't even live in the same city and another family member stays with them.

    4) To an acquaintance who says their son has taken admission in a mediocre engineering college in their town because they wanted him to stay close to home. Actually, his All India Rank was low and so he could not get into any of the decent ranked Univs.

    I know most of these situations are not worth spending too much time on but their repeated occurrence is totally annoying. Am I reacting unnecessarily? Should I just ignore all these and focus on the positives, as applicable?
     
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  2. Rihana

    Rihana Moderator Staff Member IL Hall of Fame

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    For 1 and 2, it depends on the employment situation. If it is a domestic help, then accept that as normal or replace the employee, no point trying to fix that behavior or one's reaction to it. Actually, for any employment situation, one follows the usual steps to help the employee improve, if that works, great, if not, replace. There is no need to take any employee's work ethic personally.

    For points 3 and 4, extend grace, show understanding. People go through tough life decisions and may give reasons that sound better or protect their pride. They don't owe the unvarnished truth to acquaintances, colleagues, or anyone until they are ready to share it.

    Frankly, labeling their R2I reason as a rumor, or dissecting a family's college choice reason comes across as quite off-putting.
     
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    nayidulhan Silver IL'ite

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    Thanks for your reply, dear @Rihana :)

    Points 1 & 2 are pertaining to a Multi-tasking staff member in an office set up. So what you said here is quite relevant.

    Sorry for the bad taste in case of points 3 & 4. I know their situation well because they have shared the truth with half the world, including me, in the past. So why white wash it now? I mean truth always prevails. Why should one try to wear masks then?

    In case of Point 3, they have a thriving career in India. Why weave tales when everyone is aware of the fact and make a fool of oneself in the process? Really not required, right?

    In case of Point 4, the student has gotten admission on merit. The requirements for admission in that college were easy to meet and he got through. That's fine but the point is it was solely on merit. I feel the parents should have owned up to it. They are sending wrong signals to the son. Their words are covering up the fact and give an impression that their son's score (however low it may be) is not good enough to share. The parents should have been truthful about it all and made the son feel comfortable with the situation. I feel innocent teens like this one may feel subtly judged with this attitude of parents. What do you think?

    In any case, I don't have the heart to talk to these people to discuss my perspective with them. I am only trying to understand their behavior to learn my lesson from it. :)
     
  4. kaluputti

    kaluputti Platinum IL'ite

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    I know most of these situations are not worth spending too much time on but their repeated occurrence is totally annoying. Am I reacting unnecessarily? Should I just ignore all these and focus on the positives, as applicable?[
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    Yes, it seems like giving too much importance.They are wired that way, they can only behave in that way. so we cannot escape from getting annoyed as a spontaneous response, but should recover from it with the same spontaneity , since we are not going to change the situation in all the cases in any way. Why waste time and our energy
     
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    Rihana Moderator Staff Member IL Hall of Fame

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    "When in a hole, stop digging." : ) Don't use terms like white wash, wearing masks etc. We never know everything that is going on in people's lives. Why is it so important that they share the "true" reason?

    There are assumptions and judgements galore in your analysis of the situations. I go for the approach of accept what people say at face value. If they later change their story, be nice about it, and help in any way if you can.

    In another lifetime, I knew someone who often said, "Why do you care?" :grinning:

    I think this may be a cultural difference. In India, people tend to be more open, forthcoming and expect the same from others. In the U.S., even with close ones, there’s a boundary we try to respect. If someone gives a reason that seems off, we usually go along with it.

    I’ve noticed this personally. When my kid’s progress or milestones weren’t as expected, my friends in the U.S. were supportive but didn’t pry or expect me to always be transparent and upfront about struggles. My friends and family in India, on the other hand, expected the truth and wanted to be there for me more than I was comfortable with. The support from Indian friends in the U.S. friends is more on demand, while India friends want to always be there.

    TL;DR - "Stay in your lane" is a handy rule to follow for most conversations and social interactions.
     
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    So, the kid got a score that is generally considered low. The parents can teach (and maybe require) the child to be fine with it and share it proudly without reservations. Or, they can recognize that there are times in life we need to know how to craft a statement that takes care of people's questions and comments. Both are ok approaches. I personally prefer the latter, and have helped my kid come up with ready-to-use responses for things they are not comfortable sharing with others.

    "Why hide something?" "Why be ashamed of it?" is one approach. "I understand right now this is a sore spot and you don't want to shine light and fresh air on it." is another.
     
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    Thanks @kaluputti for your reply. Thanks for validating my feelings. Your post made me feel heard. I appreciate your suggestion of using the same spontaneity to reverse my thoughts. I will try it. J
     
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    @Rihana, I do accept what people say at face value. Trust me... I am a good listener. :) However, my over-analytical mind sometimes goes into speculation mode. These people lie without a care in the world. Is lying used only as a coping mechanism in this situation or is it used to work out other situations as well? I know, this is a silly thought but it was bugging me for some time now.

    In case of the R2I fellow, it isn’t like you were fired or something. Your visa was not good any more. Why take it personally then? Why fear being judged for something you are not responsible for? It wasn't your performance or credit score or any such thing that made you R2I. It was only your visa.

    In case of the Engineering student , thanks for the other POV.

    "I understand right now this is a sore spot and you don't want to shine light and fresh air on it."

    I am learning from you all the time. Thanks. :)

    In my brutally honest (utopian) world, I failed to recognize this as an option. That family’s handling the situation the way they did, got me thinking about how I will react if it was my child. I thought, it would be good if my family is honest about it all, if ever we have to face such a situation. After the initial bouts of pity/ told you so/ etc. settle down, we will never have to face any guilt of being dishonest with the world or with ourselves too. I mean there will be no scope for any fear of any unpleasant situation coming up due to this, in future. I don’t know… I may be wrong! :)

    I want to know more about crafting those sentences and navigating such situations. There is a sense of (unwarranted) fear in my mind. How will I handle my child if she for some reason does not score well on any important test that she is working at. How do I help her prepare herself to face a situation like this?
     
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    The fact that he did get into a college on merit is a great achievement in the current competitive space! There are so many people who pay tons of money or take shortcuts to get into the non-mediocre colleges too!

    And I feel the parents are not sending any wrong signals. There are truly so many different reasons to select a college ! When I advise someone for college selection, I first ask them their preferred geographic area! We create an excel with different options - geography, language, branch, food, classmates, hostel/local, cost, and then later we look at which among them have good teaching, placements, projects, industry-presence etc!!
    In the current scenario, apart from education, if the student has enough access to projects or internships, the college they study from might not matter much!
    I actually think that the parents might be really happier as they can see their child everyday! And maybe the parents have some access to local companies where the child can do projects or maybe they have some GRE/GATE/CAT etc prep classes or some other extra curriculars that he can attend close by which is difficult if he is out of town!
    Also, the student himself might not want to overshare, so he might have asked his parents to state the particular 'excuse' (according to you)

    Whatever it is, not your circus, not your monkeys! There is no need to judge them!
    In fact all your posts reg the 3rd and 4th points in this thread belong to 'none of my business' category...

    The 1st and 2nd points are different, you might need to implement clear expectations, consequences, rewards and encourage her for good job done and clearly communicate when the job is not done correctly etc!

    Keep smiling
    HR
     
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    Sure, spend 5 minutes time on them
    Tell your hubby - 'Today 3 (or 4) repeated the same excuse once again , I wish I understood why they lie everytime' - once you voice it then go on to forget it till the next time!
     
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