Gabfest: And Thereby Hangs A Tail

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    My mom has a 45 year old black and gold Singer sewing machine. It was part of her wedding gifts. My dad has this joke he’s been repeating since I was a child. He says he was hoping for a scooter but my mother’s family sent a sewing machine instead. He hugs it and says this is all the dowry I got. Lol. Annoys my mom no end! That sewing machine has so many memories attached to it that I forbade my mom from giving it away, even though she too has an electronic one now. I am planning to carry it here with me on one of my India trips. I am going to restore it and keep it in my craft room as an heirloom. My mom finds it amusing but what does she know. Even today I remember in vivid detail, her form bent over it in the late afternoons when she was done with household tasks, squinting her eyes to thread the needle, expertly popping in the bobbin without needing to look, and the rhythmic train-like whir of the wheel as she sewed. My grandmother only wore blouses sewn by mom for as long as she lived. Even when my mother lived thousands of kilometers away she would parcel her blouse pieces and my mom would sew them and send them back. She sewed all the baby clothes both my kids wore. She found it funny when I asked her to make clothes for them. In the age of fast fashion when people buy the latest on a weekly basis, I just felt this need to slow down, to have my kids experience the warmth of hand-crafted clothes made by their grandmother, perfect because they were imperfect. Those blankies, tops and teeny tiny dresses have been stored away carefully in case I ever become a grandmother. : )

    Gardening.. more on that later.
     
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    Thanks for the nomination Viswa! You’ve summarized my entire point with that one comment. I saw a tweet by AOC yesterday that made the same point. The merits of the trial aside we need to be taking a hard look at the system that allows an affirmative defense in an assault weapon case. The way the laws are written right now, once you allow a self defense claim it becomes incredibly hard to disprove. Contrast this with the case of Chrystul Kizer also in Kenosha county — a 17 year old black girl who murdered her sex trafficker and set his house on fire. She claims he had been abusing and trafficking her since she was 16. Police and prosecutors have evidence from multiple other girls who were trafficked by this man. In fact they were prepared to arrest him the same week that he got murdered. After the murder Chrystul stole his car to get away. The prosecutors want to deny her an affirmative defense — meaning she cannot claim necessity, duress, or self-defense, all of which apply in her case. They have charged her of premeditated first degree murder and theft — six felony charges in all. A court ruled that she is allowed to claim self defense and the county is appealing the case to the Supreme Court.

    A White teen who crosses state lines with an illegally procured assault weapon has his gun charges dropped and is allowed to claim self defense. A black girl who kills a man who abused, made child p**n (IL thinks that’s a bad word, won’t let me type it out) and trafficked her for 2 years is charged with 6 felonies because she stole his car. And they want to deny her an affirmative defense. There are two separate justice systems in this country and what’s worse is that that’s the way the system was intended to work. With the incompetent cohort put in place by McConnell and co. during the Trump years, this is going to get much much worse.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/06/03/chrystul-kizer-sex-trafficking-appeal/
     
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    :blush::blush: ...understood, Amen. :grinning:

    I have read the post multiple times already, it's like reading a page of a book by a desi author. So much sweetness and warmth there, a reader's joy really. Love, love. :hearteyes: Thank you for sharing. :beer-toast1:
     
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    Hmm, from what I have heard/know, Sangam Literatures and Tamil Epics like Manimekalai and Silappatikaram have references of the term Jambudvipa to indicate Bharath as a whole. Tamil nationalists put forth the "Kumari Kandam" theory - of a submerged, greater subcontinent in the south as proof of the antiquity claims of the Tamil Civilization. Otherwise, I haven't come across any other names so far for India, will look it up.
     
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    @Kohvachn,

    It is so interesting to note that this name was derived from a tree that filled this land called "Jambu" and Dvipa being a continent or island. It had another name called Sudharsanadvipa. When men do Srartha or other religious rituals, we not only say the Rishi from whose heritage we came from but the location where our ancestors originated and when we say it, we use the term "Jambudvipa". The world is divided into seven continents and the other six are Plaksadvipa, Salmalidivpa, Kusadvipa, Krouocadvipa, Sakadvipa, and Puskaradvipa. They were divided seven oceans consist of salt-water, sugarcane juice, wine, ghee, yogurt, milk and water. - Source Wikipedia.

    Note: Jambu tree had such a large fruit and seed when it falls into the ground, so much of juice is created and it runs like a river. :)

    Another interesting quote from Wikipedia:

    Jambudvīpa is the region where the humans live and is the only place where a being may become enlightened by being born as a human being. It is in Jambudvīpa that one may receive the gift of Dharma and come to understand the Four Noble Truths, the Noble Eightfold Path and ultimately realize the liberation from the cycle of life and death. Another reference is from the Buddhist text Mahavamsa, where the emperor Ashoka's son Mahindra introduces himself to the Sri Lankan king Devanampiyatissa as from Jambudvipa, referring to what is now the Indian subcontinent. This is Based In the Ksitigarbha Sutra in the Mahayna.
     
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    Can you post a photo of this podi so that I can see how it looks like? I have only seen in movies where the elderly women having something like this, to mix Vethilai and seeval to make it look like a powder so that they don't have to chew as they don't have teeth.

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    In the terms of the modern world, Jambudvipa may roughly include the geographical area from Egypt, Afghanistan, India, extending far to some parts of south-central Asia.

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    Outside mythologies and going with history, Chandragupta Maurya unified then India and called his empire Jambudvipa. From various inscriptions, Ashoka seemed to have named his extended Mauryan empire (that covered almost the entire Indian subcontinent)(aptly) as Jambudvipa. I had first come across the term in a gaming forum a few years back (I know, an odd place!):grinning: I was clueless and after falling through the rabbit hole of internet pages, I learned of its importance in Hinduism. :blush: (Deeper analysis on the topic can be found on many Iskon blogs if you are interested.)

    Jambu translates to Naaval* in Tamil and Jambudvipa as "Naavalan Theevu" - mentions of which, I hear, are found in Sangam Literatures like Paripatal, Tamil epics (names ref: previous post), and even in some post-Sangam era Bhakti texts like Devaaram - to represent Bharatham. Tamil purists and nationalists claim Naavalan Theevu is part of the greater Kumari Kandam, that the word "Jambu" itself is a derivation from the Tamil word Sambal (alternative for Naaval) > Sambu > Jambhu!

    Maybe decoding Indus Valley scripts or the latest findings from "Vaigai Valley" (Keezhadi) will shed some light on the truth. ; )

    *Sutta pazham venuma, illa sudatha pazham venuma? ;)

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    Other names I stumbled upon:
    Ancient Mesopotamia texts refer to the Indus Valley / Indian subcontinent as Meluha.

    Jain literatures claim that Bharata was called ‘Nabhivarsa’ after King Nabhi - grandfather of Bharata.
     
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    After the leaves are sun-dried well enough, a mixer grinder will do the magic! ; ) Just like any other podis will be made. The texture may look a bit coarser but that is just personal preferences. :innocent:
     
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    Wow! Iskon's blog is a treasure trove of information and I am going to print and read it.
    It is interesting during Sankalpa, Bharatavarsa, Ramyakakanda, etc. are used and we have been saying all these without knowing what they refer to. It is interesting, Avvaiyar's interaction with Lord Muruga was also about Naaval which confirms the place where Avvaiyar lived. I also learned that Hodu is the Biblical Hebrew name for India and is mentioned in the Old Testament and the Chinese and Japanese name for India was Tianzhu (it appears this name is translation of Hindu).

    Note: When we do Sankalpa here, we add the word, "America Desa"
     
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    The Avvaiyar movie projects a combined version of "her" for the audience's pleasure and easier understanding. Tamil historians suggest "Avvai" is merely a title for any respectable and wise woman (Avvai < Ayyai: feminine version of Ayya), that many Avvaiyar(s) may have been active throughout different periods from Sangam era, Bakthi*, Middle age, and Modern times in Tamil literature classifications and at least 6 are prominently identifiable based on their linguistic style, compositions and time of the works produced. Ref: Tamil Wikipedia: 'ஔவை' யார்?. *Avvai of Bakthi age is the one (I'm assuming) who might have had that famous "Sutta pazham - Sudatha pazham" conversation with Lord Murugan in the movie.

    There are no clear findings or strong references about any of the Avvaiyar(s)' birthplace, family, parents, or age - other than a statue of an Avvai in Kanyakumari, built to mark the place (suggestively) where SHE may have left this world. So I'm not sure what to understand - as the place where Avvaiyar lived..?!
    :thinking:
     
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