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Fox And The Grapes

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  1. jayasala42

    jayasala42 IL Hall of Fame

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    Shri Thyagarajan has spoken about Donkey Philosophy in his article on " INTERESTING SHARES"

    I have read many panchatantra stories when I was young. but it is a thrill when we read revised versions.

    Here is my rambling on Fox and Grapes

    The world is undergoing lot of changes and many things acquire new dimension in life.
    My son was doing his Executive MBA in Stanford.A few days after joining I asked him what they teach in Stanford.Pat came the reply'Fox and the Grapes' Story.I was totally astonished.
    It was a long conversation.I reproduce whatever I remember.
    Friends, haven’t we all heard this story before? This story was always told and quoted to convey that the fox was negative minded. We blindly agreed with the negative connotation and laughed derisively at the fox and called him a loser! This is an old attitude.

    Now they have started seeing the fox in a new light.

    If each one of us gave undue importance to our every missed goal or opportunity, then don’t you think our life gets too burdensome and doesn’t it rob us of our enthusiasm to live life to its fullest? And doesn’t it blind us with pessimism? Especially in today’s times, when the competition is stiff everywhere, everyone faces failure and rejection at some point or the other. It is a fact. We have to understand that everything we do teaches us something new irrespective of whether we succeed or fail.This is experience and it is invaluable.To dream, to strive and to struggle is the way of life. Simply accept it and remember the quote, “Failure is the stepping stone to success.”

    So it is time to change our paradigm and admire this fox’s attitude in a new light. What an attitude he has to pacify his disappointed soul! Yes, I think this much-maligned animal is a great attitude Guru for today’s times. He gives us the message not to cry, get disheartened or wallow in self-pity. This guy tells us to change our thinking process, give our best shot and if we are still unsuccessful, shrug off the disappointment, move on and spot the other opportunities!

    'The Great Attitude Guru '

    Don’t you now see this fox as a flexible guy on the move, a guy who doesn’t believe in crying over the spilt milk, a great guy with loads of optimism and a guy who has the courage to face disappointment with a great attitude?

    I think this is the right attitude for the present time. What do you say?

    2.Another argument:-

    Now, had he said to himself something like - well I can't reach THOSE grapes so I will do something constructive and go look for some other grapes or maybe a nice long drink of water from a brook - THAT would be a positive attitude.

    Otherwise its just like the drunk guy in a bar who yells insults at the girl who just turned down his drunken advances. It's a bad attitude. It may not be his fault that he couldn't reach his goal - but its not the fault of the grapes, either. Insulting them may give the fox some sort of grim, temporary satisfaction, but its not a productive or positive attitude.

    The first argument however lifts the spirit of someone who faces dejection.In Indian context, it reminds me of girl viewing ceremony-boys coming after one another, rejecting her under the pretext of colour,complexion, qualification or mismatch of horoscope.Even in these modern days, such things definitely continue.The girl/the girls' parents are placed in the same situation as that of the fox.
    The girl says, 'He is not that great..Perhaps better groom is in store for me."Whether it is a consolation or compromise, the losing side has nothing else to do.

    Edison with his experiment is reported to have failed thousand times before he could successfully get the incandescent bulb burning bright. When asked why he did not feel frustrated after numerous failures, he quickly responded that the last experiment taught him about the 999 mistakes.

    The greatest philosophers say - the greatest glory is not in never falling but in raising every time one falls.
    I think the top most management institutions have their attention shifted to Aesop's tales and panchatantra Stories.
    In MBA terms, the fox meeting with failure dismisses the claim that the grapes were not the ones he wanted and the insignificance gets attached to the non achievable goal.
    The inquisitiveness to earn or attain something important transforms the fellow to be creative and look for other alternatives.On every failure an assumption is created about the NON_UTILITARIAN aspect of the unattainable.

    See,
    the MBA language!The UTILITARIAN VALUE,PREFERENCE CHANGES ,SOCIAL CHOICE etc etc are brought into the simple story of Fox and The Grapes.
    The tenacity of the story bears the moral view that the desires of the people changes with the changes in their whims.
    The story seems to give a platform for analysing ATTITUDE,its role on DECISION MAKING and TRANSFORMATION IN CLASSICAL SITUATIONS .
    The story seems to reveal the practical significance of RATIONALIZATION on the basis of POSSIBILITY.
    In the same way, 'DONKEY and the WELL" "Crow ,vada and Fox" stories have come under disguise,The crow shouts "KA KA KA" holding the vada not in its mouth but in its small legs.All the characters pancha tantra stories
    shine with roles with business tactics. What a welcome change!
    I was wondering whether the fox or crow would have dreamt of becoming the centre of discussion in an institution that is in the top list of renouned institutions.
    In grandma's language," whether the fox's hunger was satiated or not,it could raise its collar and say proudly that it has become a subject matter of study in STANFORD.
    Is it not a credit?Every one is after name and fame. Why not the fox or crow or doney?They could even be awarded MBA degree.

    JAYASALA 42
     
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  2. Thyagarajan

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    I enjoyed a lot reading your post as a response to my story about Donkey philosophy.

    Modern trend is to look at hackneyed old philosophies like adage கிட்டாதாயினும் வெட்டன மற ( don't waste energy on unattainable desires or goals) .

    Nimble brains are always equated to fox in dynamic situations. Old lion king of forest, fox and shadow in well-water on full moon at its zenith cross the mind. In Fox stories the quadroop never gets disheartened and always rise to the occasion however complex it is - improvise finding newer ways by out of box thinking .
    Nimble fox never frightened in front of mighty BRAWNs like lion or elephant.

    It is said appearance is deceptive. We see giant like men bestowed with effeminate qualities . We see a diminutive Tendulkar somewhat wet behind the ears yet at young age 19 in his maiden test in Pak was to face speedsters bowl to him at terrific pace but such balls went for a mighty glorious sixer.

    Donkey reminds me of an anecdote heard from a senior Law Professor during my management training in The LBSNAA in 1976. A washermen with his donkey carrying dirty linen were ambling toward a river. Opposite at a distance, a man and his pregnant spouse were walking toward him. Looking at the protuberance of the woman who was nearing her full term of her third trimester - the donkey got bewildered and moved chaotic raced and dashed its head against her big belly. Enraged, hubby looked around found a long heavy log and picked it up, chased, whacked donkey to death. Hubby lost his heir which spouse was carrying. Washerman lost his donkey carrying the dirty linen.

    They filed suit in the civil court against each other claiming damages. The judge pretended patiently hearing the arguments and eventually ordered that each will "carry" for the other!
    Regards. God Bless
     
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  3. Viswamitra

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    Dear Madam,

    There are multiple ways of looking at "Fox and Grapes" story:

    1) Fox gave up too soon on trying to get the grapes without utilizing its best capabilities by convincing its mind that they are sour. There may be more ways to get to the grapes the Fox didn't try. - Good attitude associated with the necessary efforts
    2) Fox didn't try forever to get those grapes without knowing its limitation to jump and decided to move on with its life. After all, food can be secured through many other ways. - Not setting a goal that is impossible to achieve
    3) Fox, without really knowing whether the grapes are sour or not, came to that conclusion to convince its own mind to give up. There is a possibility that those grapes may be the sweetest. Coming to the conclusion without really learning more about the grapes is incorrect. - Lack of discrimination to find the truth
     
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    Had the fox from the story known the spider from the spider and king tale who taught us "try try try, till you succeed", he would have seen himself as a failure. The moral of these stories can/should be changed as per our need.
    Anyways, I admire the fox as he did not waste his time on something unatttainable and went onto other things.
     
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