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Discussion in 'Married Life' started by anivijay, Oct 5, 2023.

  1. SGBV

    SGBV IL Hall of Fame

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    You resigned your job to manage the family, and it was a joint decision. If that's the case, you should have equal access to his salary, and have a say in any financial decisions he makes. This is the ideal situation in a normal family.
    But practically speaking, the earning partner will always have a say in financial matters, just like the home maker has her way of managing the home (like, asking family members to keep the shoes away, close the kitchen at certain times, choosing the menu and disciplining the kids) It is normal though.

    This is why, I usually encourage women to find helps (if possible from extended family) during the most prime years of their kids' life as oppose to leave their career. This will help them a million times down the line.
    However, if you have chosen your children over a career, never mind... but seek help to rebuild your career as early as you can to ensure self dependence.

    Everything will fall in place the moment you stop depending on others.

    Now that you are earning. Start a proper financial management.
    You don't have to share everything you earn with your spouse. Sit with him, calculate the family expenses, savings, EMI etc together and share a proportion of your salary to a joint account which you both have access to.
    From this account, you can spend for the family needs such as grocery, education, health, fuel, bills etc as well as monthly savings for the family. If you plan to invest from this joint savings, make sure the investment is jointly agreed and is on joint names.

    The rest of your salary should go to your respective independent accounts. And it is up to you to decide whether to save them for the future, invest or spend on your needs. Even you are free to support your FOO.
    You are free to invest on your name or joint names. It is upto you based on your family dynamics. If you think your salary is not adequate to spend or support your FOO, then you have to start upgrading yourself to earn more.
    If you think you do not have time to improve your career due to family burden, then both spouses should discuss and share the burden equally. You guys can outsource help such as day care or nanny if kids are still young and include these expenses in family expense.

    Put your foot down, start working on self improvement towards self dependence.
     
  2. lavani

    lavani Platinum IL'ite

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    i do not want to derail or suggest D. but how different is your life right now with kids at home. i am guess it is still close to empty nest. After kids enter high school they almost have a life of their own. my elder will go to college next year. her daily communication has reduced a lot.

    now with strained relationship with spouse. it is even harder.
     
  3. anivijay

    anivijay Gold IL'ite

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    @lavani, still I am seeing them every day and cook for them, having dinner with them. They are independent now and time we spend together , reduced lot, but I am enjoying what ever time I have with them.
     
  4. anivijay

    anivijay Gold IL'ite

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    @SGBV , thanks for your reply. I understand and working towards self dependence.
     
  5. Laks09

    Laks09 Moderator Staff Member IL Hall of Fame

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    @anivijay - You seem to have a lot of grief regarding your moms demise and her funeral which unfortunately happened during the pandemic. Have you done anything about your feelings? You’ve mentioned quite a few times about your spouse not being there for you. I think you are being very hard on yourself for things in life you have no control over. That clubbed with the fact that you are not getting the support you want must be overwhelming you. Maybe you should take care of you. You should wear your own oxygen mask before helping the sisters. That does not mean you are being selfish.

    I have a child with a disability and I know first hand the stress of looking out, of being constantly vigilant and of the aftermath of that on myself and my other relationships. You need go first and foremost find ways to manage your stress. Seems like you also have some health concerns. Take care of your emotional and physical health first. Once you do that, you will be in a better place to help others.

    Make a start somewhere. Don’t wait for your spouses approval or support to take care of yourself. You have kids who are young adults themselves. The only way to empower kids that age is to lead the way. To show them what self care looks like. Standing up for your self, taking care of yourself and being present for yourself are all things you need to do on a consistent basis.

    Also, please, give yourself some grace. Don’t be so hard on yourself. Your mom unfortunately passed on during the pandemic. Afterwards things happened that were outside your control. It was beyond everyone’s control. It is important for you to grieve but also to love yourself a little. Make yourself the priority. Learn to let go of things you has no control over. Self love helps heal and also begets positivity. Try it. Forgive yourself for all of those events you are adding up in your mind where you felt you failed, because you did not. Truly let go and live a good present so you can have some energy for the future.
     
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    Viswamitra IL Hall of Fame

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    @anivijay,

    I am praying for your peace of mind. It is even hard to read everything you wrote in this thread leave alone living it. You seem to have a lot of pent up emotions which you need to release. That is precisely why you are stressed. Clearly, your husband is a control freek and I don't even know why you think he is a good person. May be some of his actions intermitently might make you feel that way. Which husband in the right frame of mind will ask for half share for cinema and half share for a dinner you all had as a family? You should not put up with that nonsense at all.

    I would strongly suggest you commence counseling for overcoming your grief of losing your mother, and your husband's ill treatment of you. You clearly said your husband helped his famil for the first 8 years after your marriage and similarly you have a right to help your sisters whatever way you deem appropriate. After all these years of him demanding everything you spent for your family to be treated as a loan that you need to repay, it is time for you have a meaningful discussion with him to determine your family expenses and in what proportion it should be shared between the two of you. Most of your salary going to common fund and still him demanding money for even having dinner and cinema is not right.

    If you really like to stay on in this marriage despite all that silent treatment and emotional abuse, it is time that you live together for the children only with some kind of a clear understanding that funds earned by each one belong to the respective spouse. You will only contribute what is needed to run your home and everything else will have to be managed by each spouse. Please consult a financial advisor as to how to invest your funds wisely for your future. What I am worried about is what example you set for your children. They watch all that happens at home and their future life may be affected emotionally because of what they go through now.

    At this stage, what you are doing is not sacrifice but allowing a spouse to cross the boundaries by not standing up for yourself. Instead of writing so much here in IL, focus your attention on actions you need to take. None of the words we say here is going to help you unless you make your own decisions and actions. You are the best judge of your situation. Please review everything including what you have already agreed to do and assume you need to press a refresh button. Peace of mind in a married life is lot more important than the money one earns or saves. Whatever price one has to pay for achieving the peace, one should do, in my opinion.

    My prayers are with you.

    Viswa
     
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  7. anivijay

    anivijay Gold IL'ite

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    Thanks for your reply @Laks09. You are 100% right. What I am writing here is may be only 50% struggles. I had other pressures from my relatives. To come back to India. To give off my share in properties, list goes on.
    They are thinking I have a supportive husband who will do anything for me.. even if I tell, they wont believe. Only my sister knows as she was with me and seen.After so much struggle and pain, now I learnt to say no. I set the boundaries. I cut off some people from my life. I let go of what others think of me. I learnt to keep quiet, not responding. I've decided to live my life day by day. Face the problems as they come and just do what I could.. I think I've come a long way in these 3 years.

    Even with my mom, with these struggles I supported her beyond my abilities. I did my best. What ever in my control.

    I do realise , i still have this guilt I need to release and the importance of self love and healing.

    I'll find a counsellor to release these emotions. If anyone can suggest online counselling, please let me know.

    Thank you so much
     
  8. anivijay

    anivijay Gold IL'ite

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    @Viswamitra sir, thanks for your reply and prayers. I don't know why I am feeling this way. I wish I had elders in my family to guide me like this. I'll go for counselling.



    Thanks for your prayers.
     
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  9. Viswamitra

    Viswamitra IL Hall of Fame

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    @anivijay,

    While writing this, I sent you a lot of healing energy by praying a lot for your well-being. Be confident that you would be able to find peace soon once you set things right. I wrote everything here thinking what I would have said to my daughter or sister if they were to consult me in this situation. Let God shower His grace to you for peace of mind and good health. Miracles can happen and who knows your husband may turn around once you take firm actions. Sometimes, things happen because we let that happen. All your husband needs is an awakening and he at this point has no one to tell him what he was doing is wrong. You can be that person. After living for so many years together, some sort of dependency will be there for each other and when you shake him up a little, he might understand what was going through your mind for many years.

    At any cost, you need to reduce your stress level soon and it is not good for your health. That is number one priority. Constant emotional stress will have negative effect on your personal and professional life. Please consult a counselor immediately to overcome this. Be courageous and firm in facing your husband when he begins his verbal barrage when you change your financial commitments. Consider your self-confidence, self-respect, self-worth is much more valuable that conciliatary approach. Conciliatary approach is recommended only when you are dealing with a rationale person. Once you do that, you will achieve invaluable peace of mind. 5 years of peaceful married life is worth a lot more than 25 years of abusive marital relationship.

    God Bless You.
     
  10. Rihana

    Rihana Moderator Staff Member IL Hall of Fame

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    After my first response, I have read your further posts and learned much more about your family and background, anivijay. I somehow thought your kids were much younger. If your husband is behaving like this with kids soon to be off to college, it is even more sad. They are watching such pathetic behavior from him.

    Knowing when to keep quiet and keeping quiet at those times is a powerful tool. Cutting people off is another massive energy saving mechanism. I like the posh term for it, "editing" people out of one's life. Even better is relegating them to a low priority and giving canned responses to each ping from them.
     
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