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Current Situation Of Covid-19 In India

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Minion, Apr 25, 2021.

  1. Hopikrishnan

    Hopikrishnan Platinum IL'ite

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    I am a keen graph watcher in these covid times. Losing close (1st cousin level close) india-resident relatives to the infection/disease adds to the covid hibernation at home, causing such internet addictions.

    I see the India graph hooking down a wee bit. Oh.. that's good, I think. Then I look at the Karnataka graph, and voila... that is going down too. But then the TN graph hadn't taken any downturns yet, and the Andhra graph is hooking back up.
    The moral: It is best to have all the relatives in only one state.

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    And how many of them are there? Let's see:

    Those with a decent income in India would have to file IT; and the number of them: 4 crores out of the 140 crore. Half the country is agrarian and the rest are in semi skilled jobs with not much education but literate enough to trust Whatsapp university.

    Assume if US is 95% rednecks; how would you think the politics would be? That is how India is. It is much easier to get votes by aligning with cow, Ram temple and statues than please the minority of middle class+



    Bingo! You arrived at the core of the issue.
     
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    Some optimism:

    www.sutra-india.in

    Their predictions and outcome turning to be close. Except TN, all other states have peaked. TN to see it's worst till this month end.

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    IL'ites: Ask your dear ones in India to hunker down for another 2-3 months (worst case) and by then the vaccine situation looks good.
     

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  4. Hopikrishnan

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    This may be a problem that resident desi's in western countries may have experienced. If something about India gets reported on TV, you'd get asked about it at "the watercooler" -- the proverbial location at office where people congregate to share news/gossip etc.. Even long foreign lived desi's are not immune. The locals are dense, and the indians have to be circumspect. The native indians who signed treaties with the guntoting idiots learned that the hard way... but then I had digressed.

    The india-covid situation is now in the virtual watercooler location, because we cannot go to the actual watercooler these days. The frequent mention of "india variant" is also an irksome thing. Recently I learnt that they had identified the SARS-CoV-2 B.1.617 virus in Iowa. And the report from the Iowa public health site is quite clear to absolve the desi-Amreeki at the watercoolers from any complicity in the breeding of the virus: "The Iowa Department of Public Health (IDPH) has confirmed two cases of the COVID-19 variant, SARS-CoV-2 B.1.617 in Iowa. This variant is also referred to as the India variant because it was first detected there. We are still learning about the characteristics of this strain."

    The report implicitly recognizes that the virus can actually evolve to the best of its capability, focussing only on its own survival in the host organism. It doesn't have to go to India, or come from India, to learn how to do it. America born desi children know the score..... of how they get labelled "indian" no matter how American they are. Iowa is as core of America as one can get.
     
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    I want to see "The Print" discuss the positives of the virus sweeping (washing) over the nation, because, no matter how much Jha keeps on about "what should india do", the virus would wash over the nation.

    With Baba Ramdev in the North, and the various Siddha medicine doctors in the south, India's rulers have a strategy that is not all that covert. The Union government plans to foist the responsibility/accountability for covid deaths and suffering on all the individual state governments, by giving up the public health maintenance function to the control of the states. If each state authorizes their own quacks to kill off the weak in their own populations, everyone wins, in the competition that matters. States get rid of their weak through a legal process, and the union government would be blameless. After all, the viruses of the world are supposed to improve the human stock in the evolutionary process.

    China had their one child policy to control their population. And India would have the Swedish experiment scaled up to a larger population, and ancient indigenous medical technology to help cull down its population.

    A 10% headcount reduction would be huge in numbers. Heck, even if half of those cadavers were tossed into the ganges, the river would overflow its banks, and start flowing south. Something that the south had always wanted.

    When confronted with things beyond our control, we'd have to look at the positives that come out of it. Exactly what our neta's are doing.
     
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    For centuries, we (here in India) were making dozens of kids and a few survived to live past adulthood. Field of medicine drastically reduced this infant mortality ratio but the kid making spree never stopped. That's how population exploded (along with that, poverty).

    The 1960s green revolution turned India from a nation of underfed, malnourished people into relying on primarily carb filled diet. But back then that was the need of the hour: crores of population with nothing to eat and external technology assistance coming to the rescue.
    When urbanization and soft jobs took over steadily from the 90s, we got obese because all the additional carbs have no way of getting burned and this led to the epidemic of diabetes (note how Covid is severe on these people).

    Point being, there was a consistent lack of vision in those who were governing, the same way how people had an idea about their lives. Moving from crisis to crisis with no lessons to learn. For eg, when population explodes then resource per capita obviously is going to dwindle: Water wars between states.

    When land is tilled continuously with hybrid seeds, fertility is going to decline in the long run. What are we going to do when it happens? There was never an effort to mitigate population growth. Back then the majority of population was on subsistence agriculture so, more kids = more labor for farm work.

    When in a crisis, humanitarian help pours in. Somehow we tide over and march steadfast into the next crisis.

    China was able to do it with an authoritarian regime. That is not possible in India. There is only one way: educating women, bringing them into the workforce and bring planning into how we live - like, have kids only when one is economically stable as opposed to 'somehow they will grow up'.

    Women in the cowbelt are still the baby factories churning out kids. Watch any riot videos and you have countless young men roaming around and engaging in stone pelting and such. We have free food grain schemes so food is taken care. These are the people who are emotionally manipulated to be foot soldiers of the politicians.

    Unless India becomes the next manufacturing power house of the world (as China is ageing) by employing these young men, we do have a real chance of the country becoming like lawless sub-saharan Africa. Any attempt to take out the underemployed (but overpopulating) farm labor is met with resistance (farm laws, for eg) and thus the Indian elephant is too slow in inching forward in anything.

    Except that the reduction is happening only in the 60+ and thus called boomer remover.

    hah. That water scarcity is what actually improved the South. We doesn't have a perennial water source from the snow melt of the himalayas and drought was a frequent thing. Cauvery isn't supporting of that heavy a population like the Ganges. With limited natural resource vis-a-vis north education was the only way; industrialization reduced population and gave a higher quality of life.

    But that leads to the classic trolley problem: democracy of India with it's universal adult franchise aka 1 person = 1 vote punishes those who managed to improve their lives and hands over power to those who lived the same way how their ancestors lived.
     
  9. Hopikrishnan

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    India reported that half their Covid deaths (official data) are in the under 60 ages. This is the result from the first wave that happened during 2020. In the recent wave as well there seemed to be equal number of anecdotes about older patients, as well as people in their prime wage-earning phase of life. Perhaps it is the unfortunate confluence of a more virulent virus, and the prevalence of diabetes-2 in the 35-65 ages.

    Dr. Soumya Swaminathan (Chief Scientist of WHO, located in Geneva) put out the report on the Top Ten diseases of each of the Indian States, recommendations for how to deal with them in the public health system of each state, and how much money/resources would be needed. That was in 2017. Nothing in that report offered the average politico anything to do and showcase with immediate flashy outcomes that can be used in reelection campaigns. Soumya's daddy was the famous scientist who lead the efforts on the hybrid seeds during the Green Revolution years in India, and likely contributed to most Indians becoming pear-shaped, and acquiring diabetes, BP, heart conditions, and any other comorbidity that a person ought to avoid.

    At 25 min in this video Soumya acknowledges that quacks provide the first treatment to most Indians. And offers something of a non-starter solution to overcome this problem.
     
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    Low Testing Creating Artificial Dip In India's Covid Surge?

     

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