Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Minion, Apr 25, 2021.
Ventilators Received Under PM Cares Fund Found Defective
Ventilator Blues is an old old Rolling Stones Classic.... check out the video... Only the Stones can produce the blues sound without any wailing wind instruments of Jazz.
lyrics in link under the video..
The Rolling Stones – Ventilator Blues Lyrics | Genius Lyrics
Now that we have the Covid, the following lines are so prophetic .... aren't they ?
When you're trapped and circled with no second chances
Your code of living is your gun in hand
We can't be browed by beating, we can't be cowed by words
Messed by cheating, isn’t going to ever learn
Everybody walking around
Everybody trying to step on their Creator
Don't matter where you are, everybody, everybody going to
Need some kind of ventilator, some kind of ventilator
I checked to see if NaMo plays any musical instruments (like the violin) but NO.... there is only a tape of him messing with hammer-and-bells in a street stall.
Buxar in Bihar then Unnao and today these. Very disturbing videos. Whether they are covid deaths or not but isn’t there any protocol for covid cremations. Given the current pandemic any excess deaths will be taken as covid deaths and needs proper burial or cremation.
Reg. #403, about burials of bodies in Ganga river sandbanks, very remote, very inaccsssible are good things. How shallow are they buried in the sandbanks ? Some pictures show really shallow burials. In soft earth, burials have to be deeper so that scavengers (usually vultures, crows and small animals) cannot get at the remains. In the old west (USA) field burials have happened, and these are usually topped off with heavy stones so that the bodies will not be easily accessible for scavengers. We already know that small animals can host the corona virus [Denmark's mink is the classic example]. Ganga R. floods in every year from July to September. Those ravines and sandbanks would all be under water at that time.
The news media should stick around to find out and elaborate on the 5W-1H aspect (what, who, where, when, how and Why.) of this news item. Camping out one night on the sandbank, can get them such scoops. Gathering panels to mull over the past is useful, but that should not be all. They should also find out more about the shallow buried bodies, and how to make them safer and not trigger another public health problem in the location where they are present.
Preferably yes, but seems more were talking just about pandemic than the burials. Is it even burials, who and how did they come there in a remote place or was it from the river where it was brought by the current and if so it wouldn’t be like this? Whatever reason the bodies being around like that is going to spread infection like you said through other animals or even people who would be forced to dispose bodies like in Buxar.
Barkha lost her father due to covid recently. What she is doing inspite of her recent personal tragedy is commendable as she brings things to light. I don’t know much about her just telling my opinion based on her commitment to bring news from rural areas.
With a title 'current situation of covid in India' for a thread, OP is filling it with politically charged narratives. That, is my point here.
A gross injustice plaguing a society, one person to blame for it all and then a replacement as the panacea is a good script which works only for a movie.
Bodies in Ganges - blame the political head. Neighbor's sex for oxygen deal - blame the political head. What next? Elections, new PM. Problem solved, right? really?
Elections keep happening but the state of the country remains the same. Why? An analogy to this is the solution of divorce to every person facing marital trouble; you allowed yourself to be a doormat and then you blame the spouse; One can narrate in paragraphs of personal columns about how much of an abuser the spouse is but the person would have no proper answer from within to the question 'why did you allow yourself to be subjected to this from the beginning'.
Note well, by saying so, I am not implying that the abusive spouse is to be tolerated (=Or that Modi did nothing wrong). I have to explicitly state this because the usual counter from the other end is being called a bhakth. At this point the 'silent majority' goes quiet or brazens it by joining the right wing; the country is polarized into pro and anti Modi and there's no getting to the root cause of issues.
“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results.”
The cow and cow dung:
Half the country is still agrarian. Almost every farm has at least a single cow; the milk from it being the primal protein source for the farmer's family.
Apart from NPK fertilizers (inorganic) which are pricey, farmers use cow dung as a manure. It is heaped in a corner for months and after it is dried/vermi composed and directly added above the root zone. Also there is a concoction made from cow urine called 'panchakavya'. Farmers don't have any qualms handing dung or doing the preparation in their own backyard. Since all other fertilizer sources have petroleum derivatives with risk of cancinogen load, if you want/buy 100% organic food, it is only to be grown from this cow dung.
ORGANIC FARMING :: Panchakavya (Note: TN has staunch anti-BJP sentiments, btw)
In times of a pandemic, the 'Bharat has the solution' team A starts advocating the cow solution which is met with a counter from team B (science is on my side! It's insane! how can an animal's refuse cure disease!). Mocking terms like 'cow belt people' isn't helping either - team A then organize cow dung facial, snaan and what not; a BJP political leader heading the event and thus the ridiculous story in the headlines: India advocates gowmutra to fight covid.
Getting back to the topic of covid and India, it's a rainy day and here's a pic for my 'it's not (just) the politician, it's (also) the people' rhetoric: that's an ambulance with it's high siren, probably carrying a covid patient and there's people around going on with their lives. By now almost everyone would have lost an acquaintance to the virus; The concept of lockdown, proper masks or 'science says so' has no effect even when witnessing life and death happening in front of them.
Yes, I saw her interview about her father's death... and how lesser fortunates are suffering greater miseries in Delhi.
Older relatives going to the ICU does not seem to work well in the metro's or even in district-HQ town hospitals[four in my close family, all men in their early 70's met up with covid-19 and didn't survive]. Mid last year many people with bank deposits were reminded by their branches to update their information, including who'd get the lucre in case they died of covid. That was a good thing too.
Older upper middle class people deciding to die with dignity at home can be appreciated, when we consider hiring an ambulance to go from post to pillar, and running out of oxygen on the road. The scenario of being frustrated and helpless to the point of dying is merely a morbid extension of the routine troubles of the living in India experience in accessing most other government services.
I was quite amazed at how, the whoever who did it, got the bodies to where they got to, on the sands off the river ganga. They are far from the water in the river, as well as the road. The families who brought them there would have to bring them with the help on others. On motorcycles? And since firewood is scarce, they may have done a shallow burial, and perhaps gone off to get the wood and return the next night to continue on with their cremation ritual.
During the Taj Mahal Hotel attack in Mumbai, there was a pear-shaped policeman in the street who got asked by some foreign presswallah why the policeman doesn't rush into the hotel to fight the baddies and save the people. The policeman answered that his annual salary cannot even get a couple days' worth of stay in that hotel; and even if he had the right sort of gun, he is not paid enough to toss his life away to save those who can afford to stay in that hotel.
Covid is nothing but a few families of hunting lions punctuating the migration of the huge mass of the wildebeast working on survival. At infection mortality rates of (at best) 2%, the big herd is winning. What gets culled is still mostly old ones, with a few young ones also getting slaughtered. Happens in any stampede.
On a macro level, in the worse case scenario, the nation would come out 2% less heads, and would just be the same ol' same old. Someone had advised the leader NaMo to hunker down and ride it out. Nothing new; this is a thing he had done in the past. It is not accidental that all the swatting down of the media with repartees come from the party apparatchiks and not from the Government. The noisy shout-and-counter-shout of politics have no value as concrete government policy. If the public and the media were to mistake these for government policy, it would be their (media & public) problem, and not the government's. Any government (NaMo or anyone else) would have to lie low, and get through this patch. NaMo is doing just that -- the next election is far away, and there is enough time to regroup and win again.
I do not know why no one had suggested the use of all the land cleared for the Vista Project as temporary cremation sites for Delhi ? Or use the holes dug up for the foundations of the tall government office buildings as burial sites ? Wouldn't it be fun to have the Income Tax office be haunted with the spirits of the covid-dead?
You are right in saying that the elderly are a vulnerable population and in a situation where the medical facilities have been too overwhelmed then the medical professionals have been put on this spot about who would get better chance of survival and would have to choose the ICU management based on this. It happened in Italy and in many western countries. In India with even oxygen being scarce we can just imagine the rest. That’s why we need to curtail the spread. With TPR being around 50 in Goa and generally speaking above 20 to 30 in many states the number of cases and fatalities are very much underreported.
But the most unfortunate thing here is that young have been worst hit than others. Maybe the partial vaccinations of elderly might be the reason or because of the higher transmission of the newer variants. It’s very devastating for the families where the young ones are dying and leaving kids behind and families shattered beyond words.
Sorry for your relatives who had died. Weren’t they vaccinated, just asking though I do know that there are always escape variants possibility.