Current Situation Of Covid-19 In India

Discussion in 'General Discussions' started by Minion, Apr 25, 2021.

  1. Agathinai

    Agathinai Gold IL'ite

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    Did Adar Poonawalla fly away to London in March this year amidst the crises just before Britain closed it’s doors? That’s news to me. He flew to safeguard his family just like many other billionaires in India. He is stating is planning for manufacturing in Britain and other countries probably to export as India banning exports. He is obviously so well connected and able to get personal security for his protection and claims threats and so flew out of India which is as flimsy an excuse as can be. He flew to escape from the covid crisis to protect himself and his family that’s the truth. He along with many billionaires flew out in a rush when the borders closed.

    'Everything falls on my shoulders': Adar Poonawalla on vaccine pressure in India

    India should have or atleast now should expand it’s vaccine production in multiple states and not just focus on only two plants for its supplies. They are doing it but hopefully they expedite it. These vaccines are going to be yearly given the mutation and will need continued production.

    India coronavirus: Can it make enough vaccines to meet demand?

    Governments should invest more into vaccine manufacturing and some needs to be not from private companies. This might help.
     
  2. Minion

    Minion Platinum IL'ite

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    That is the whole point, when you are the leader of the second most populated country and you know you are incapable of building emergency hospitals like China so you have the responsibility to let the country know that the pandemic is not over and make sure everyone is safe.
     
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    I can say that Modi isn't a great leader and I don't even forget Gujarat riots which happened when he was CM of Gujarat.
    There is no point of posting all these pathetic news/videos which we already known from other media sources and you are making us more scary. If possible post something which is useful for people who are looking for help in this calamity and it isn't right time to do just blaming game. I'm stopping to see posts in this thread and go ahead with your negativity. Enjoy!
     
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  4. Minion

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    I don't agree with you, Trump followed the same tactics he is great in fooling people and Modi is just following his tactics, this thread will be a reminder to everyone what will happen to a country if you elect an incompetent leader.
     
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    You are preaching in this thread, to a bunch of people who can't even vote in India!

    I don't know if you have people personally affected by this crisis back home in India, but I do. I have a family member currently fighting for their life in India, and this is someone who got a first does of vaccine, remained indoors throughout, and is OCD about cleaning even non-pandemic. And they are now hooked to a breathing support machine.
    That person's daughter has suddenly started sending me messages of prayer chain and things, which I don't usually believe in. But she feels like that will help her parent out of this ordeal. And at this point, I cannot find it in my heart to go and point them to articles of how prayer chains through whatsapp do not really mean anything. I cannot pontificate. It would be mean and sadistic of me to do so. So at this point, I am really not able to think beyond just that one person and have utilitarian views about how incompetent our elected leaders are! And you know that in India, people do not vote based on issues. Case in point is the impending victory of the corrupt DMK in Tamil Nadu.

    The 2 doctors I spoke about in my previous post, are in the frontline, actually taking care of Covid patients at a Government Hospital, have been affected by Covid twice in this past year, were not paid their salaries for a few months. I really hope at the end of the day, when they come back home before they have to go back the next day, they do not have to face news after news of just more misery and doom. I'd much rather hear stories from them than these news channels, whose very existence depends on sensationalism and histrionics.

    Whichever side of politics one is on, to utilize a crisis to propogate personal affliliations to any ideology is despicable and extremely selfish. Just like the case of Rohith Vemula's suicide was milked by the Left and Sushant Singh Rajput's suicide by the Right. There was this news going around that an elderly RSS member gave up his bed for a younger patient and decided to pass on in his own home, amidst his loved ones. A news outlet felt the need to fact check this small feel good story just because the person in question was a RSS Member. There are "fact-checkers" reaching out to family for comment, not even leaving them to mourn in peace. Some little feel-good story in the foreground of an ideology you don't agree with HAS to be quashed and a sliver of positivity HAS to be immediately proved wrong. How much more perverse can one get?! The same news papers carry stories of someone from a minority community performing the last rites of Hindus that died of Covid, and somehow that doesn't need to be fact-checked (and it shouldn't be). These are little slivers of hope and positivity in these grave times and I don't understand why some people need to jump on showing counter-points as if saying that people don't deserve hope and happiness.

    I don't know if yo understand Tamizh, there is something called "Idam, Porul, Yeval". There is a time, context and place for everything. I really hope people keep that in mind before blindly sharing everything from the internet.


    Doctors continue Covid vaccine drive in violence-hit Maoist belts | India News - Times of India
     
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    I'm sorry your family member is unwell. I hope and pray they recover soon.

    But just because you feel upset and helpless about their condition doesn't mean you come and vent your frustration on this thread. That is not a good use of your time, imo.

    In my opinion, this thread and the posters are performing a yeoman service. Only when there is transparency and we see clearly what all the problems are arising that we will act to fix them.
    As for your assertion that people reading this thread dont even vote... well yes they dont or cant vote for him but they have all supported him blindly and donated to him. Where I live there are hordes of nri rw Indians who have donated heavily from here, sponsored his trips, and proudly beat their chests about his accomplishments. He was going to finally build their mandir, he was going to put those pesky muslims in their place. In my humble opinion, This thread is necessary for them to see, to open their eyes, to remove the 'hindutva ka nasha', the delirium and high fever trance of the hindutva dream, from their brains, to break the fever and return them to reality and sanity. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

    I feel this thread is necessary for those people to understand and learn the difference between what are just issues used to divide and what really matters. Public health matters. Educating people to stay in home quarantine if they are covid positive and not switch off their phones and roam around matters. See the youtube about bangalore posted above. Taking science and experts advice seriously matters. But in the seven years trust in these has systematically eroded. Every Indian talks about Godi media, they refuse to believe there is a surge, there are even posts here who talk about the 'hype' and boast they too have eaten at quite a few weddings and nothing happened. To them yes, but they dont understand how their actions may have helped to spread the disease. This is the problem. This is why the positivity in delhi is at 35%. Think about it. 1 in every 3 persons is ill. Why? Because they are all roaming around. Do you really think the 4 lakh diagnosed just yesterday are obeying the home quarantine rules? Are they all staying home? I doubt it. Every single person thinks they know more, they know better than the institutions or the doctors or the experts. Distrust is at an all time high and fueling this surge in my opinion.
     
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    I truly applaud this post. I don't understand when people call someone's misery as negative news or doomporn !!!! Stating facts and showing the ground reality of what is exactly happening at present in India happened to be the most annoying news to people who were totally ok with false propagandas and fake news spread like a wild fire through whatsapp and social media last 7 years. Especially we all know how many days news channels ran Shushanth's suicide story past so many months. Even now minimum 50k people tweet about Shushant when India is going through a major humanitarian crisis ( do we really still think they are real - who are those 50k people who wake up early in the morning, log into twitter and asking for justice for Shushant when their backyard is on fire, I truly wonder).

    India is suffering due to one man's incompetence and due to his himalayan blunders, millions are losing lives and there is no better way to say it in order to be a positive news to you all. People around the world died of Covid, here in India, people are dying of no treatment to covid which is a murder when the government had one year to prepare for the adversities. Hundreds of kids are orphaned losing both the parents to covid. This is what modern apocalypse probably looks like and until now we only witnessed it on TV in foreign countries. But here we are in our high chair, calling someone as despicable and extremely selfish for posting the reality. How did we turn into such insensitive and judgemental people???
     
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    Covid brought out the worst of India to the world! Number one reason for higher casualty( not official numbers) is central government's ineptitude and hubris. Instead of flattening the curve, they have managed to amplify the peak.

    Focus and attention that should have been given to gather resources and improve coordination between states was spent in attending several election rallies in a day. Cases were already around 2 Lakh per day when PM was attending WB rallies. There is no national task force in place, which is responsible for coordination and communication. Remember with all Trump mismanagement of crisis, he was still coming out everyday informing public and taking questions from the press. Here in our great country, it is hard to tell who is in-charge such a big "national crisis". Hospitals are running to courts for help everyday. Have you seen any other country where common man and hospitals need to seek court for medical aid??

    Leaders step up during crisis. This is the largest crisis after partition. But Modi, Shah have gone missing! Doesn't Modi's famous protocol doesn't call for him to be the public face of the effort? Has Modi ever attended a press conference in last 7 years and have taken questions from the reporters directly??? Ajay Bisht aka Yogi - a CM tried his usual goonda tactics in UP. You see videos of police taking away O2 cylinders from patients.Family members on their knees pleading the cops to not take their cylinders. There is always movement of people. People coming to Kumbh do not stay there, they travel to other parts of the country and its minimum 50 million people gathered. Sadly the full impact of Kumbh mela will be felt over next 2 weeks. There's no CDC type body in India tracking the genetic variants from the sample collection during this pandemic. The two institutes who do this in India were not given any funds for this. So there's no idea how many variants are going around in India. Double, Triple variants have been reported.Without genetic sequencing and vaccination , it will not die out as Modi govt is hoping for. This is not some news cycle that will die out when people get numb to death around.
     
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  9. Agathinai

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    What does voting have to do in this discussion? It’s a humanitarian crisis and anyone from this world has a right to point out facts whether they are Indian origin or not. But when we are of Indian origin we do feel for others, we do feel scared for the loved ones who are back at home, we do feel frustrated by our inability to be near them to offer them our help physically and emotionally. We aren’t being able to do so and so pointing facts. When someone is pointing facts which are negative does that makes them a pessimist, is it? That makes them a hostile person, is it? But if one thinks so then then the majority of Indians right now aren’t happy and they are worried about their health and they are worried whether they will survive. That’s the reality. When reality is depicted in the videos or news and when sharing such news makes one cringe to even look or read it, imagine how it would be for people right now living in there. These shouldn’t just be taken as news, it’s their life, it’s their whole life which is being taken away from their hands. It’s their helpless situation which are news. They all want answer and they cannot find it and news and media are helping them. I have been totally disillusioned with the crisis and what I am writing is my frustrations. I would have written the same whichever government had been ruling India or states. No Indian politicians are without corruption. This includes all current ruling and opposition parties. I have been in TN and the current ruling government is as corrupt as the previous ones. I have seen it personally in many instances. Whoever wins election are trying to swindle Indians and are corrupt. People in India whether they are voting or not doesn’t matter either. They are asking questions and feel let down by the governments.

    Doctors, nurses and other essential workers have all existed all along and their sacrifices have come to forefront in this pandemic. How many politicians or affluent people have actually gone to any government hospital for their treatment in non pandemic times? If they had gone then they would have realised how pathetic the situation is there in those hospitals. Those working there are doing amazing job with utterly poor resources. These public hospitals are usually where the poor people come for their treatment and governments have been absolutely slack in improving the infrastructure. When a pandemic crisis hits that’s when we see what it does to a country who are dependent too much on private medical facilities. Same happened in USA though they never had oxygen problems but the brunt was felt because they have private hospitals and Insurance for medical treatment. I feel there is a lot to be done for the public health development in India and that is very important.
     
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    The Ganga belt is in the eye of the storm.It’s not very heartening to see people in less impacted areas posting about still going about their lives and continuing to say annoying things like this was bound to happen in India.

    The South Indian states are still hanging on. That does not mean we can ignore the hardest hit people.

    There are people around whose loved one was turned away from hospital to hospital and died due to the lack of oxygen. After the passing away, there was also a lack of firewood to burn his funeral pyre. Such things on the news, we can switch off. Such things coming into our own extended circle makes a different impact. I wish it was in a thread here, then I could just unfollow and go about my life.

    People getting impacted by COVID and losing their fights in ICUs itself is so painful. If it were our own loved ones losing lives without getting oxygen, would we still be asking the thread starter to stop posting what he’s posting.

    We can all have disagreements. Posting disagreements is also fine. Why bring in families and experiences here? Maybe people don’t want to post details of these things online. That doesn’t mean it isn’t happening.

    It is happening. It is political. One politician cannot bring entire populations of multiple states to its knees. What can a PM do? He could have for instance commissioned a central body to efficiently plan for such a situation a year ago. This isn’t new. This pandemic has been around for 16 whole months now. 16 months is good enough time for a PM to have safeguarded the interests of his country. We need to have conversations like this. It’s conversations that convert to actions and it’s actions that prevent things like this from ever happening again.
     
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