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  1. HariLakhera

    HariLakhera Platinum IL'ite

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    Changing Times and Scritures

    All religious books were written thousands of years ago. Gita some 5000 years ago, Bible over 2000 years ago, Koran ....... Years ago.

    A lot has changed since then. All these books were written by saints and sages and prophets who were humans in the literal terms.

    Governments have changed from autocracies to democracies and for a better and transparent governance all democracies have written constitutions. These statutes were also written by humans only after of years of deliberations. Yet, over times, when ever a need was felt, amendments were brought in by majority opinion.

    How come that no one has thought of talking about some amendments in our religious books? Is the fear of rebuke by the majority or timidness of the minority?

    Or is it because humans are selfish, sinful and violent by birth and hence it is better to abide by the teachings of the religious scriptures and seek guidance from the instructions therein?

    Do you think some changes are needed and of so what? For example the irrelevance of the guidance about women who were not treated fairly?
     
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  2. satchitananda

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    Religion is an artificial construct by some human beings, for those very same human beings to be able to wield power and exercise control over other human beings using the medium of fear.

    Any alteration to 'religion' would result in those human beings losing said power. Why would they do that?
     
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    Dear Hariji,
    Yes, They are written thousands of years ago...relevant to those times. Core human values preached in those books remain unchanged for ever....like speaking truth, good values etc etc. But the rules, rituals part change, in fact have to change from time to time. But some are rigid about them, because it suits them. As Satchi said if it gives power over people why do they change? We do not try to change things which gives power over people. Of all the things..scriptures, religious preachings, saying that if followed we would go to heaven or hell if we do not follow them. Even if it is not written originally in those books religious teachers interpret and give them a twist. So, they do not want to change them. Remaining are a herd of people. If some go against them they are outcast. If somebody changes anything from any scripture religious wars and riots blow up. So, many just do listen and do as they like.
    It does not mean that changes are not happening...many changes have been made, people accepting changes and leading life according to times. But directly changing scriptures...No, they would not do it. If anyone changes Bhagavad gita army of people would attack. So, read it....just follow which you like.
    If a man has control over women, Husband is like God, she has to serve him, submissive..if said be a scripture it suits man. So, men (not all) do not want to be changed. In the same way many other things.
    But changes are happening....that is a welcome thing and should be also. There is negative said of things...and they also happen. We have to use discretion.
    Syamala
     
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    As we all know, Bhagwad gita is nothing but a narrative of the dialogue between Krishna & Arjuna that happened before the beginning of the war. So, amending the Gita would be like twisting the facts or what actually Lord Krishna said. Only Krishna can amend that, if we do then that would be our own interpretation.

    And talking of amendments, what do we normally amend? We normally amend laws & statutes which are normally applicable and mandatory to follow. But scriptures as it as are discretionary in application i.e morally binding which one may or may not choose to follow. So, if it's voluntary in application, why amend, it's not mandatory anyway!
     
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    No one, particularly those benefitting from it, will agree to amend, as you correctly said. That makes it all the more important to amend it. And the onus lies with those who are directly affected, women.
     
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    Bhagwat Gita is a gist of all our Religious scriptures spoken directly by the God and are not subject to, as I understand to individual interpretation. They are morally binding but carry more weight than laws and statutes. The only difference possible is that floating one leads to punishment after life and floating other leads to punishment in this very life, if caught and convicted.

    Yes you are right we have a choice not to follow, so no need for amendments also. Going further, no need to read also.
     
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    IMG_0428.JPG Hariji, Just as we talk of scriptures & following them by your own will, Modiji comes out with Ramayana stamps!! Oh oh, one more reminder, did we need this?
     
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    Thank God ! You talked of Modi ji. Will there be a stamp on the 'Ben' he left behind for serving the nation or will it be he and he alone.
     
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    Dear Hari,
    Though there is no copy right issue in amending the scriptures as Lord Krishna, Valmiki or Kambar will not file a case the moral police brigade will definitely won't keep quiet.

    There is no need to amend the scriptures. No one is forced to read or follow the scriptures and it is left to the individual's discretion. Why to hit the stone with the hand and get injured?
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