Badgirl - Its Just Too Bad!

No, I don’t think so. A teen ( a child!) who should receive counseling from professionals portrayed as a vanity vehicle of “ cool” ideas, adding to that caste, especially the caste who is facing mockery in the said state. I think that’s the main problem here

 

if the focus of the movie is only about the girl entering such a bad way of life , it is perfectly good way to show a movie. but the message needs to be clear on how bad this decision is . how badly it can ruins the child life.

the topics you mentioned on lgbtq , child out of wedlock can be shown too but the narrative around it , matters. we can pretend all innocent, but directors show those movie under those groups where there is legal backlash and can be delayed. if they even try to show them under the conservative groups they know they will be wiped off.


my concern is only where the director sneakily mixes the background and religious belief. and tamil movie cinema is popular in mocking hindus and then mocking brahmins for years.

if anyone say movie should be watched as a movie , it is not true . Indian movies are emotional and creates or modifies the personality. examples

hindi movies before were very popular in showing people with dark skin as poor, uneducated, rowdy , abusers physically . at the same time they shows Punjabis as stupid, simpleton but open hearted.
they will show people from bihar as violent , rapists . ( I have interacted with both. they are really smart and kind people. )
hindi movies portrayed south as Tamilian with a weird accent.

not sure if anyone grew in north. i grew up. i have seen how racial comments were passed and accent was mocked.
i have also lived in tamil nadu. I have seen how sexual comments are passed based on media only.

 

My major problem with the movie was showing a Brahmin caste girl. Could have just portrayed a Hindu Tamil girl.
Tamil society may not still be ready to see a Tamil ponnu doing all this.
If you remember a Dhanush movie, 7G rainbow colony. The heroine is a sethu(north Indian) ponnu who has sex with dhanush a day before her wedding with another guy.
This movie shows a particular caste which is hated by TN. So no one would protest.
Also , the director and actress are brahmins, Who are newcomers . Will do anything to get a chance in movies.
Maybe it was not a coincidence to give them the chance.

I have to watch the movie to get back to you on the story of the movie.

 

Right or wrong, movies have a strong impact especially in Tamil Nadu. We all noticed at least two actors became Chief Ministers in Tamil Nadu and many more aspiring to become one.

1) During the height of LTTE activities in Tamilnadu, there were many political leaders who were illegally involved in supplying weapons to LTTE and organizing them to move back and forth between Sri Lanka and Tamilnadu. The state governments were silent spectators and even informally funded such activities. There were many illegal training camps conducted in Tamilnadu to train the caders of LTTE who in turn killed innocent civilians in Sri Lanka. Oppression of Tamil in Sri Lanka was real but the solution for that is direct engagement of the Indian Government with Sri Lanka's government and encouraging and facilitating such terrorist activities by local groups in one of the states in India was anti-national and just bad in taste. Mostly, these activities were also encouraged by movies taken to highlight the LTTE caders as heroes. In fact, this hero worship started and encouraged by the cine field in Tamilnadu. This came to an end only when an Indian leader was assassinated in Tamilnadu soil. The movies do have considerable influence in Tamilnadu.

2) In my view, young women and children are raped and in some cases killed in Tamilandu and this type of crimes are rampant in Tamilnadu. There are organized rape against 13 year old for multiple months, 3 year old girl in Kinder Garden, 16 year was gang raped, and a 19 year old college student raped brutally by a ruling party thug. Invariably, in most cases, either the parents were blamed or the girls were blamed in Tamilnadu. These are just reported incidents and there are many such cases not even reported. In this environment, any depiction of a young girl child engaging in adult activites such as drinking, smoking or even engaged with multiple men to experience love-making is something any movie maker must avoid. Social responsibility warrants such care and diligence. Seeing a movie as just a movie requires a right environment, social harmony and good governance. Anyone with knowledge of Tamilnadu will know the hate that exists against Brahmins even though they have been silent sufferers for many decades now. Because they don't speak up. There were Dravidan movements to publicly remove the sacred thread worn by the Brahmin and even mock them in public. The Tamilnadu government will be a silent spectator to such actions. This type of movies will only increase the aggressive behavior against Brahmin (3% of minority of total Tamilnadu population) and create more lawless situation. The same is true also with Dalits and they suffer a lot not in the hands of Brahmin anymore but in the hands of other communities when such movies are taken with Dalit as a bad character eventhough they are about 21% of the total population of Tamilnadu. A leader named Thol Thirumavalavan is trying to get them all united into one group but they are spread across multiple political affiliations. If a movie is taken with a child belonging to the community of Devar, Gounder or Vaniyar community behaving in the fashion depicted in this movie, Tamilnadu will undergo civil unrest because they know how to defend their men and women and how they can make the government understand their requirements. They are about 34% of the total population of Tamilnadu and they know how to dictates terms to the government. Needless to say, Muslim girl child depicted with such a character will bring a lot of civil unrest as well.

3) LGBTQ and having a child out of wedlock are new concepts in Indian context even though the new generation of people are coming out with their orientation and some adult women prefer to have living-in relationship and even a child out of wedlock. I have to admit those things remained under wrap in India for at least for decades. Unless culturally, the Indian communities are willing to accept such actions in the society, movies made with these concepts may continue to have objections. Eunichs fought for many decades to get a status in India and are now begining to hold prominent positions in the society and getting accepted. The day such movies will be welcomed is when individuals are able to openly declare their orientation without any fear or able to have children out of wedlock like in the western civilization. First there has to be social awareness. There has to be specific groups supporting it. The laws will have to be enacted to protect them. That is how these things got accepted in the western world. Then, only such movies will be accepted by the society. I believe India is not ready for such movies.

 

not so new. in bollywood. Aradhana movie by rajesh khanna. had this. but those directors were smart and nicely divert it. many dharmendhra movies were like similar. infact he will be shown as a hero when he rapes the female while drunk.

 

I too don't find anything wrong.

 

@Rihana,

Only some part of my above post #64 is an answer to the question you asked and the rest of the parts are intended to share how movies influence people in Tamilnadu. LTTE example is for that purpose. Communal hate also happens a lot after certain types of movies. In fact, Tamilnadu government has taken extreme measures not to have certain names associated with communities for the movies. One such name is "Chandiyar".

Yes. I have seen a movie with Lesbian character in Tamil but that movie didn't raise any objection from anyone (probably because it didn't identify the community) but didn't succeed. My point was it would take sometime before these are accepted in the society particuarly in Tamilnadu. I can't speak for the whole of India.

In Tamilnadu, families ask questions to themselves such as 1) Will I accept if my son or daughter wants to declare himself/herself as lesbian and 2) Will I be okay if my son or daughter has a child out of wedlock?

Answers to these questions may be different in other states in India and more in case of families in western civilization. In Tamilnadu, the answer to these questions mostly is a resounding "No".