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  1. chanchitra

    chanchitra Platinum IL'ite

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    Yes.
    Songs are the worst. The feelings song in pushpa is an example.
    How much more vulgar can one get.
    All film industries do the same.
     
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    Portraying a negative character in a movie or addressing a social issue is one thing, but normalizing vulgarity or bad behavior exhibited by that character is another. The former is an artistic expression, while the latter becomes a societal concern.

    We live in a world filled with diverse individuals, and showcasing them in films helps our community gain a realistic perspective. Many people live in a bubble, unaware of the harsh realities of life, which ultimately makes our children more vulnerable.

    I haven't watched Bad Girl yet, but based on the title, the lead character seems to embody that role. A "bad girl" would naturally exhibit certain negative traits, regardless of her caste or religion, and would also face the consequences of her actions—that’s simply reality. If the film portrays this balance, I see no issue with it. Children who witness her bad habits will also see the repercussions, which can serve as an important lesson.

    However, if the movie glorifies her fantasies and negative behaviors—much like many films do with male protagonists—then it poses a risk of social disruption.

    That being said, caste has no connection to being good or bad. I’ve come across bad girls among Brahmins, just as I have in other communities, including my own Christian community. So, anyone can be chosen to portray this character.

    Why can't we simply watch a film as a film? Why do we expect the lead character to be flawless or saint-like?

    How many movies have we seen where the lead male character is far from perfect, yet we accept it without question?

    Hindus are not saints either. There are extremists among Hindus too. Haven't you heard heinous crimes committed in the name of caste issues all over India? For some it is religion, for others it is caste and gender. As I mentioned earlier, criminal activities and extremism have no race or religion. Why do you associate that to a certain religion? Just because they are different, and not belong to us, doesn't mean they are all wrong.

    Society needs to learn to separate cinema from real life. In movies, a hero can take on 100 goons and walk away without a scratch, but that doesn’t mean young adults should see it as a model for real-life behavior.

    A male lead can also tease women, sexually harass them and later marry them, smoke stylishly, glorify alcohol consumption, use abusive language, and make double-meaning jokes. Yet, when a female character exhibits similar behavior, there’s an uproar.

    In my view, cinema has a powerful influence on shaping social norms, especially in the subcontinent, where movie stars are idolized. Filmmakers have a responsibility when creating stories. They can either portray negative characters as they truly are—unappealing and harmful—without glorifying them, or they can craft socially responsible narratives that highlight the consequences of bad behavior.

    That said, we can’t sanitize every film just because some viewers might be influenced. There needs to be a balance between artistic expression and social responsibility.

    By the way, what does the UN have to do with this movie? It seems like you've taken this too personally and are responding sarcastically, possibly because of my association with the UN. If my post offended you, I sincerely apologize.

    However, keep in mind that the IL platform is not exclusive to Hindu Brahmins. Your frequent posts explicitly labeling Muslims as terrorists raise concerns, making it feel unsafe for open participation.
     
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    I am not a Brahmin.
    You too keep talking about caste all the time . Caste does not kill anyone anymore like the other heinous crimes and rapes.

    UN is an pro Isl organization which has never worked in favor of actual victims all over the world.
    Good that Trump is removing its funding.
    Will not debate further on this.
     
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    I already clarified that it's a typo mistake.
    But the list of instances of terrorism i have given is true. Tell me if anything is false.
    Have you heard of the yazidi genocide?

    Is talking for victims a crime?
     
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    However, keep in mind that the IL platform is not exclusive to Hindu Brahmins.

    you are absolutely right. . It is not. But as a individual person the OP had the right to share her concerns, which are true. It could simply be ignored. OP was clearly upset on why they mock in such a cheap manner. Which is right.
    Show me example in a mass scale where the reverse is mocked . I will stop and truly apolojize.

    there are multiple posts in this forum, and many members who participated here , participate there and do not talk about religion OK.

    Also when a nasty post mocking hindus was posted by a man , i did not see you commenting and getting upset.


    Hindus are not saints either. There are extremists among Hindus too. Haven't you heard heinous crimes committed in the name of caste issues all over India? For some it is religion, for others it is caste and gender. As I mentioned earlier, criminal activities and extremism have no race or religion. Why do you associate that to a certain religion? Just because they are different, and not belong to us, doesn't mean they are all wrong.

    This also you are absolutely right. I am not at questioning that. there are bad apples here. BUT. It is not continued in a majority . Media does not keep feeding the world and show hindu are great and mock other religions. But the opposite is done.

    show me recent 10 years with real data , on majority who is instigating whom. I did. i repeat kerala conversions, kashmir pandits, bombay blasts, u.k , germany. now recent love jihad.

    You keep telling caste, explain to me Why College and Government companies have reservations instead of Merit or Economic status.
     
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    True.
    The amount of venom displayed by the western media for Ram mandir had me in shock. All NY times, Washington post, BBB, CNN were reporting false news.
    They all conveniently ignored that a Ram mandir existed previously which was demolished to build the Masjid.
    They have always been hinduphobic.

    Many ancient temples in pakistan have been demolished, used as toilets. No one reported this .
    I have gotten used to all this by now.
     
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    actually i did spent a moment because it bothered me when you said , IL is not about hindu brahmins.

    I see there is a female who posts regularly about Quran . Not a single person from here mocked . It is accepted with Full respect. that is what is pluralistic . If you see anything mocking others belief here in IL like what you have said, please share. I will strongly oppose that person . So why the reverse is not True. Why mocking hindu is accepted and diverted with another Question of caste instead of answering the question.
     
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    I truly admire your commitment to misunderstanding my perspective. It takes real dedication to ignore nuance so thoroughly. Keep up the hard work!

    Your ability to twist facts and dismiss logic is truly inspiring. If there were an award for selective hearing, you'd be a top contender!

    Sorry OP!
    I think I answered your question and there is no misunderstanding.

    Sorry again. Let me stop responding to the cross posters :boxing:
     
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    You too.
    We will close it now. Bye
     
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    Yeah. There is always a necessity to keep Hindus divided by caste. That's a common thing i have noticed in Hinduphobes every where.
     
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