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  1. jayasala42

    jayasala42 IL Hall of Fame

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    Very often we are advised to live in the present ,enjoy the present and cross the bridge
    when you come to it.True.But at least 80% or even more approach astrologers of various types,-horoscope readers,palmists,numerologists and other predictors in connection with education,job,marriage,child birth business prospects,property litigations and even about mortality.

    On a few occasions,,by coincidence,the predictions become true and his words are taken to be very genuine.When some mishaps are predicted,people become highly depressed.

    No doubt.astrological calculations are highly interesting and even my amaeturist predictions have proved to be true on many occasions.But let us understand that
    astrological predictions are based on anumaana sastra and not on scientific facts.

    We know the story of the great mathematician cum astrologer Bhaskaracharya. He predicted early widowhood of her daughter. Notwithstanding his fixing the marriage
    on a specified day, he could not save his son-in-law.A small gem fell into the clock jar and the marriage could not be conducted at the correct time as thesand flow was blocked by the gem. Auspicious time had already passed when the marriage was solemnised.The astrologer realised that destiny was strong.

    A psychiatrist quotes an incident. A post graduate girl became highly depressed as her own uncle, an astrologer predicted the death of her son at the age of 8.When the child was afflicted with fever and admitted in hospital,the mother became depressed and hysteric.Nothing could save her except a blatant lie by the psychiatrist that the child had passed away.People are unable to take up imaginary mishaps and bad predictions but are able to accept even the saddest fact when reality dawns.She got reconciled,.After she became normal, the boy was handed over to her.
    Life is not a bed of roses.Ups and downs do exist.We seem to be more bothered bout bad predictions which we may not face at all.

    Is astrology a real science?Do planetary movements have control on human life?
    To what extent do astrologers reveal the facts? What is the dire necessity to know the distant future ignoring the glorious present?We should take only guide lines from the astrologer and take our own decisions based on common sense or need not consult astrologer at all.

    Certain things in life cannot be changed at all.Certain things can be changed by our hard work and sincere efforts.How to know the difference?
    We are endowed with intelligence and sense of Discrimination.We have so many gurus,books,elders and our own experiences.Instead of running after astrologers,
    we can strengthen our mind and face the reality with faith in Almighty.

    Jayasala 42
     
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  2. Mistt

    Mistt IL Hall of Fame

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    True, that is the only thing I do always. Now also I'm praying God with hope of everything will be fine and making myself to be calm.
     
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    This is a subject which has been debated for generations. In our family ,astrology has been followed for three generations. My father asked me and my brother to sit before him and under his guidance we drew the twelve houses.
    I left it after that but my younger brother has turned into a professional astrologer in Chennai after retirement. We follow K.P.system. In my case my marriage and elevation to the top most position in my career and near death Gandam happened strictly as per astrology. There are many things that have happened ,not predicted by astrology. My brother's horary prediction generally comes out true on the dot. He however faced the most trying experience in his life which he had not anticipated. Every time GURU,SANI,RAGHU/KETHU transit houses, Tamilnadu goes into a dizzy.
    Human nature is always in pursuit of the unknown. Instead of completely becoming subservient to astrological predictions one can at best take these as guidelines.
    Regards
    SLN
     
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    Dear Smt. Jayasala:

    Thank you for your take on astrology and predictions. When my parents-in-law used planet positions through their entire life, my parents never took horoscope seriously even though we all had horoscopes. But after my marriage, I ended up meeting various astrologers my inlaws used and most of their predictions became true bringing some belief in me about the planet positions.

    In Mahabharat, Krishna himself personally determined the day the war was supposed to start in consultation with bothsides. Bhisma waited in the bed of arrows to leave the body during Uthrayana. I still believe that any fate can be encoutered with confidence and faith in the Almighty. We all also know Markandeya's story.
     
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    A son was told to set out in right time when it is not inauspicious because his horoscope reading says so. He was to meet an industrialist at his residence to get an executive berth on a particular day.

    The inauspicious time already commenced and he had to wait till it was over by 9am.

    After nine, he left home and had reached the industrialist home in a jiffy when the secretary told him that the boss was waiting here all along only for that ragukalam to expire. Now he must have reached airport to catch a flight - he is on long itinerary for a week.
    Destiny is powerful.
    I remember that “parrot” story you wrote to one my posts as feedback.
     
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    Thank you
    Jayasala42
     
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    Thank you Viswa.In my parents' family my father never consulted an astrologer.He performed the marriage of all his 6 daughters without consulting astrologer.The bridegroom side might have seen the horoscopes.
    We cant take Krishna's action into consideration.He could make or mar the sun shine .
    Human beings are susceptible for temptations.
    There is nothing wrong in getting guidance from the astrologer as long as it does not have an adverse impact.
    A friend of ours who was in the Select-List of Gr B officers ,an astrologer himself,studied his horoscope which indicated Transfer to North Direction.Naturally he expected a transfer to north Indian offices.but unfortunately he met with his sudden end in Chennai due to Heart Attack.The family members had to console themselves saying perhaps the TRANSFER indicated TRANSFER to the other world also!
    Some 12 years back there were one or two burglary attempts in our neighbour's residence.On consulting an astrologer cum Vastu Specialist they changed the position of Kitchen in the house spending about Rs 20,000/-But within a month,the burglary, which had been only an attempt twice ,became a reality.They lost 20 sovereigns of ornaments & Rs 10000 cash.
    The reality was their window grill was a of a mimimum of quarter inch shifted from some old house& it was easily bendable.Later they realised their mistake & strengthened their window Grills.
    Thieves of course can bypass any safety measures. But we on our part should rely more on our comon sense than on the predictions.

    Suppose two horoscopes indicate the line of COMMUNICATION .
    If the horoscope is that of a girl/boy who has studied 12th Std we may say that he/she may study Electronics & Communications Engineering or Journalism or they may work in a Media.
    But if the horoscope belongs to a school Drop out we may say that he/she may become a postman ,or work in a courier company.Astrologers also should have some understanding of the background.
    We may consult any number of astrologers. But ultimate decision should be based on our intelligence, common sense & realities.If we have faith in ourselves & Faith in Him,problems will take care of themselves!!
    am reminded of a verse in Kandar Alankaram by Arunagiri nathar
    நாளென் செயும்வினை தானென் செயுமெனை நாடிவந்த
    கோளென் செயுங்கொடுங் கூற்றென் செயுங்கும ரேசரிரு
    தாளுஞ் சிலம்புஞ் சதங்கையும் தண்டையுஞ் சண்முகமுந்
    தோளுங் கடம்பு மெனக்குமுன் னேவந்து தோன்றிடினே.



    ......... பதவுரை .........

    நாட்கள் அடியேனை என்ன செய்யும்? வினைதான் என்ன செய்யும்?
    அடியேனைத் தேடிவந்த கோள் தான் என்ன செய்யும்? கொடிய
    இயமனால்தான் என்ன செய்யமுடியும்? குமரக்கடவுளின் இரண்டு
    திருவடிகளும் சிலம்புகளும் சதங்கையும், தண்டைகளும் ஆறு
    திருமுகங்களும் பன்னிருதோள்களும் கடப்ப மலர் மாலையும்
    அடியேனுக்கு முன்வந்து தோன்றிடுமே.
    ( The day ,auspicious or not,karma good or bad,planetary position favourable or not,can do nothing as long as I am devoted to Lord Muruga.He will protect me)
    Vathsala Jayaraman.
     
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    This is an interesting topic and often debated on both sides, by believers and non believers. Personally influence of astrology has been there throughout my life, as my father was himself a strong believer and self taught person in astrlology. We were 5 children , and from the beginning he had the belief, (mostly due to his study of his horoscope and all ours i presume), that he cannot expect any help from children in his later years and needs to be self sufficient. With this aim in view , he saw to it till the end (he passed away at the age of 84) that he was self sufficient both physically /emotionally and financially. Circumstances turned out such that none of us were near him through many of his struggles- I am not going into the details here. Any normal person would have collapsed at the weight of the issues he had to face, which i believe he was able to remain steadfast and carry on, due to his belief and ofcourse - belief in Gods will.
    Myself similarly, have taken help of astrologers (our family one whom we had known of long standing) through all major events in our lives, and childrens lives too, and almost in all cases, we have been guided and things turned out positive each time.
    In sum, My opinion is that we need to do whatever in our power with common sense and trust in the almightly, however astrology can prove to be a great guide . The point here is ASTROLOGY is never wrong as it is based on scientific calculations - only ASTROLOGERS could be wrong -dependingon their passion/sincerity and good will.
     
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    Dear Joylokhi,
    I totally agree with you Madam, There is nothing wrong in having a family astrologer and his consultations.Many treat him as Guru.But problem arises when one goes beyond a limit.My cousin's husband was a believer of numerology.When he got married ,the Guru advised him to go in search of a house having Door No 5,23 0r 32.
    He could get such a house only in slum area.They struggled a lot.
    The same numerologist fixed timings 3.30 to 3.40A. M. to hold the hands of the bride.( during his sister's marriage)The sastris took great objection.But oonjal celebrations took place at 3A. M. As ill luck would have it, the boy passed away within 4 years leaving two children behind.
    jayasala42
     
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    Dear Shri Thyagarajan Sir,Thank you for your nice reply. Such controversies arise always.Rahukaalam sometimes stand as nuisance when two people agree to meet. Please read my snippet on Rahukaalam sent today.

    Jayasala 42
     

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