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  1. jayasala42

    jayasala42 IL Hall of Fame

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    Whenever undesirable atrocities are committed,Children behave in the strangest way,unbelievable incidents happen very often, automatically our lips murmur " Kaalam Kali Kaalam.These things have already been predicted in Shrimat Bhagavatham" and so on.

    It has been dinned into our ears for a long time that Sathya Yuga, Treta Yuga, Dwapara Yuga and Kaliyuga run for 1728000,1296000,.864000,4,32000 years respectively and there are lakhs of Kaliyuga years remaining to be spent .

    But historical evidences suggest that Rama ( tretha Yuga) lived somewhere 7000 years back , about 5000 B. C.and Lord Krishna Krishna ( Dwapara Yuga) ascended to heaven around 3102 B. C,, a few years later than Mahabharatha war for which there exist many solid evidences.
    Shri Krishna had lived just 5000 years back in Dwapara Yugam.

    So the yugas running to lakhs of years might have been a misreprentation taking the years as divine years and multiplying them into 360 for converting into human years.

    This discussion came into focus in 19th century itself and many books have been written on the subject as early as 1894.

    According to them scientifically taking into account the rotation of the earth, Satya Yuga , Treta Yuga, Dwapara Yuga & Kaliyuga can be for 5184,3888,2592 and 1296 years only- that is one Chathur yuga consists of 12960 years only and not 43, 20, 000 years as conveyed in earlier texts.
    That is it will take 12960 years to complete half the rotation for descending and once again the travel will run on the reverse- Kaliyuga, Dwapara yuga ,Tretha Yuga and Satya yuga and the cycle will continue.
    As per this calculation

    Krishna's ascent to heaven...........................3102 B. C.( Kaliyuga Begins)
    Now we are in.................................................2014 A. D.
    Total period spent ..after Lord Krishna......... 5116 years
    Kaliyuga -Descent 1296
    Kaliyuga Ascent 1296
    Total period of Kaliyuga ...............................2592 years
    Kaliyuga began in 3102 B. C.After two terms of Kaliyuga consisting of 1296 years each,
    Kaliyuga is already over by 510 B. C( 3102-2592).
    Dwapara Yuga has already started in 510 B. C. and in 2014 as of today, we have spent 2524 years of Dwapara Yuga.
    After 68 years that is around 2082 , Treta Yuga will start and run for 3888 years followed by two sets of Satya yuga of 5184 years each.
    This coincides with Krishna's words in Mahabharatha that the earth will have a prosperous period of around 10,000 years later.
    It is said that the earth rotates around a centre called Vishnu Naabhi. Scientifically Whenever earth is nearer to Vishnu Nabhi the etherial atmosphere is very high and human mind is at its highest capability, people's ability to know past and future is at its peak and the there is efficient means of communication. All these had been possible in Sathya yuga as revealed in their great knowledge and their powers to go beyong Time Line.
    As the earth moves away from the centre etherial content becomes lower and lower and human beings start behaving like animals. It is said that only on account of this inability to do tapas., meditation etc on account of low calibre, easy Naama Smaran had been suggested to people of Kaliyuga.
    As per their calculation two phases of Kaliyuga are over by 510. B. C. and the earth is moving towards high etherial atmosphere and that is why so many developments in architecture have taken place for the past 2000 years and recent developments in physics, Chemistry and Communication Engg , invention of Electrical , Electronic equipments, thorough understanding of various energies etc point to the nearness of high etherial atmosphere.

    However it is matter of delight that we are approaching Treta Yuga-(the periof Ramarajyam ) in around 70 years and our children/grand children may have an experience of a better life ( in terms of ethics and morality).

    Satya yuga, Treta Yuga, Dwaparayuga, and Kaliyuga, -The descension half circle is over.
    . Now ascension circle has already begun in the order Kaliyuga, Dwapara yuga, Treta yuga and Satya yuga.This will complete one full rotation.
    Scientists who accept this theory have great conviction that Kaliyugas ' demonic atrocities world wide are over by 510 B. C. and there have been no great wars affecting people, except World Wars 1 & 11 . Energy Yuga has already started as revealed in the fastest development of Science and the arrival of so many inventions as a challenge to God's power of creation.

    This theory , as advised by many Satgurus and Scientists of 19th century appears to reason as different from lakhs of years suggested in mythological works.We are not great scientists to know about the axis of rotation etc. But we have a fair idea of history evidencing the possible truthfulness of the theory. We may not bother whether we live in Kaliyuga or Dwapara Yuga.

    But there is a mental solace that dark times are over and there is some light at the end of tunnel. Why not we hope that our grand children/great grand children will be fortunate to live in the prosperous Tretha yuga?

    Jayasala 42




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  2. satchitananda

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    Very interesting analysis JS Ma'am. It is nice to think that a couple of generations people will lead better and more ethical lives. We live on hope alone, don't we? Thanks for this wonderful write up.
     
  3. Srama

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    Dear JS Ma'm,

    I read through the whole snippet with fascination. Some very interesting information there. I have often wondered that in spite of so much good happening, how can we believe that ultimately it will not triumph. Now going through the calculations and explanations you have presented, it is heartening to know that things have been getting better and will only get better. What a relief it is just to hold that idea in heart. It simply makes one want to continue doing good and believing in it. So thank you for showing that it may not be as bad afterall. We must simply stop saying "kali kalam" and continue working towards better times for our children for,
    "We Do Not Inherit the Earth from Our Ancestors; We Borrow It from Our Children"
     
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    Thank you Dear Satchitananda.Sometimes the belief of millions may be wrong and the belief of handful may be correct.I think we have to be open minded to accept what appeals to our reason ,though it may be against the views of orthodox believers.
    Thank you.
    Jayasala 42
     
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    Dear Srama,
    Thank you for the interest shown. Amidst all anxieties and agonies. we get something to get hold and proceed towards future. Whenever I read articles about research on 'Dates of Birth' of Shri Rama & Krishna, we may not know the exact planetary position etc. Yet we can well understand the history and period behind kings of solar race and lunar race.We have the names of kings that were ruling in solar and lunar dynasty.
    Putting all the facts together ,we need no knowledge of great astronomy or astrology to assemble clear facts of history.
    We are not bothered about the name of yuga, we live in, but certainly bothered about the future of India and of the entire globe.
    It is good that such topics kindle hope and confidence, the essential need of the hour.
    Jayasala 42
     
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    Hello Jayasala!

    Welcome to the spiritual world. Your point is valid and well studied. The concept is quite different.

    Have you ever heard of term called Kalpa?

    As per our myth there is an explanation. :)

    Krita Yuga - 4800 years
    Treta Yuga - 3600 years
    Dwapara Yuga - 2400 years
    Kali Yuga - 1,200 years

    So total it comes out as 12,000 years.

    Fine, where does the 43, 20, 000 years comes into picture?

    There is an explanation mate.

    All 4 yugas are together called as mahayuga.

    So, 12,000 years are just fraction of seconds to brahma.

    Now coming to Kalpa!

    Kalpa is nothing but 1 day of brahma's life time.

    1 Manvantara = 12,000 X 360 = 43,20,000 human years!

    14 Manvantara = 1 kalpa

    1 kalpa = 1 day for brahma.

    Total life time of Brahma is 36,000 kalpas

    Hope this clears your doubt mate. Happy to explain further if you have any doubt. :)


     
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    I would disagree.......

    See if all this is correct and we live in the dwapar yuga........

    Then........

    Lowest and evilest man in dwaparyuga was KANS.......

    Krishna's maternal uncle.......

    He knew he would die through his sister....... Did he kill her no.......
    He killed all offspring from her...

    So there was still reluctance to harm own sibling and only her offspring was seen as a enemy.....

    Now lets see today.......

    Bro kill sis.....
    Sis kill bro....
    Dad kill son...
    Son kill dad....
    Dad kill daughter....
    Daughter kill dad.....

    So there is no relations here..... Nothing to talk about the sexual crimes in these relations which are pathetic.....


    Well going by this that this is an improvement from Kalyuga and human thinking is getting better....

    I Doubt......

    Well then i shudder to think what more improvement is coming in the coming yuga's........
     
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    Dear Marun,
    I have already mentioned that the number has been arrived at by multiplying by 360 in order to arrive at human years.
    Thank you for explanation.
    Jayasala 42
     
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    Dear Quebec,
    Thank you for the response.Arguments can be made anyway. I am neither an astrologer or astronomer. The article was based on some research work done in 1894 by a group of scientists.
    Jayasala 42
     
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    The analysis is interesting ,jayasala42 !
     

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