Anyone Here Take Nerve Medications And Metformin

gknew · Apr 21, 2022

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Have you checked your vitamine D levels. Is it possible for you to find a functional medicine doctor and do a detailed blood test.
Your inflamation markers are really high, this suggests that some autoimmune issue may be there. Many autoimmune issues dont have any cure, but it can be managed by life style change and by removing foods that cause inflamation or issues( example, gluten diary etc). I guess you dont have any dental issues.

Have you confirmed your issue is neurological? My friends used Metformin for different issues, ie., diabetics & fertility treatment during ttc.
Are you sure you dont have any sinus issue.
I had this problem of severe pain in my face and mouth. I still dont know the reason, but steam bath and drinking strong ginger tea( boiled water plus ginger) helped me. I thought its related to IBD issue I have. Hope you dont have any intestinal issues. As we age, we need to supplement, especially, Vit D, iron, ( deficiency can lead to hairfall too), vit B especially B12 abd omega 3( can reduce inflamation )

Anyway, keep exploring and hope you find a solution.
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Sorry for the late response.
My d is very low. I tested my d first time in 2017& it was 11. I am taking supplements since then. Its 25 now. Still lower range.

I have severe hair fall issue for last few years. I was taking iron supplements, but my iron didn't increase where my ferritin did. So PCP told me to stop taking iron.
No sinus issues as per the CT scan. I do get nasal congestion and do steam inhalation.

I have dental issues. Not sure if that's causing inflammation markers to be high.
I have jaw pain under the ear lobe area and neck. Along with one tooth pain. It didn't start as tooth pain. I went to the dentist for jaw pain and they find this tooth issue during that visit. This tooth hurts then they tapped on it and biting on it. Nothing seen on xrays and tooth CT scan.
Still get root canal for those symptoms 2 years ago when this pain all started. No relief and same symptoms after the root canal . Seen few more Endodontist. Recent gag retreatment of root canal on that tooth hoping it will resolve. No changes. Still same symptoms on that tooth for tapping, pressing and biting. They told me to try extraction as a trial and see if it helps.

I have seen neurologist too. Taking nerve medications to see if it helps. They don't see it as neurology issue.

Don't know what's wrong and I am still trying to find out.

gknew · Apr 21, 2022

Ragavisang said: ↑

Dear OP,
Have you thought about alternative therapy like Qi gong ?.Sometimes it might help.
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What's that? Haven't heard before

gknew · Apr 21, 2022

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Gknew,
The reason I'm so skeptical is from personal experience. Around 10-12 years back even I got neck pain. Luckily i told my manager who immediately ordered an ergonomic evaluation of my workspace. Turned out that the angle at which I was holding my head looking at comp was not good. The tech educated me on good posture and the need for exercises to relieve the strain periodically. (Even now if I spend too much time on the couch looking at my phone I get that pain but I know what to do now.) Sometime later I got shoulder pain. Doc did x ray, tried acupuncture, physio this that nothing worked long term. Turned out my old mattress and soft pillow were the culprits.
Our posture, the condition of our muscles, how much support we are getting, how old is the couch, mattress or pillow, how good is the office chair, all this also matters.
A few years later I used to get intermittent neck pain, in a different area and tender jaw. No clue why, no symptoms on X ray nothing. My doc prescribed some nerve medicine, but I could see she was not clear as to cause. Maybe it will work try it she kept saying. I didn't get a good vibe so I decided to get a second opinion. Coincidentally, around same time, I got a new dentist who told me that I probably grind my teeth at night (I had no clue! but he could tell from the state of my back teeth) and suggested a custom mouth guard. After a month of using the mouth guard my neck pain vanished (it was on only one side and apparently when I was very stressed I was gnashing that side in my sleep.)

Like you I too went to doc first, she only suggested X ray and medicines (which I did not take) and no mention of the simpler possibilities. Not even - it could be your teeth, go to your dentist. Hence I'm urging you to check the simpler reasons also for possible cause. They don't bother to tell you the simpler causes. There is no money in it for them, to tell you to do seated weights to improve your muscle conditioning, to walk or control your calories. They assume you don't need a board certified doc to tell you such a simple thing, maybe they expect you already tried all that, I don't know, or maybe expect u will figure that out on your own. There is a saying - guy holding a hammer sees every problem as a nail. They are so full of their training they stretch to use it on every patient.
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Thanks a lot for your response. Appreciate it.

I totally get your point. I know we all are like lab rats when it comes to trial based medications without diagnosis..
I don't know if your are in the US. If you have chronic pain without diagnosis, you are a lab rat. I hate to take medicines. But no other option. Being in constant pain for 2 years now.

My main pain is in the lower jaw and neck. And one tooth pain. Had imaging and nothing found.
I have been told the same so far. I might be grinding and clenching at night. Dentist didn't give me any guard and sent me to TMJ specialist. He quoted $5k for his mouth guards which is out of insurance. So didn't go to them for the guards.
Another dentist gave me a small guard which fits only on front upper teeth and it didn't help. It made my pain worse and they told me to stop using it. Have tried 2 of those types and it hurts even more after a night of use.

Planning to see a new dentist to try a full arch mouth guard. Have been told to see a chiropractor too.
I have a tooth pain which hurts since this jaw pain started. Nothing found on it yet. Had few dental procedures on it. No relief. Other option is to pull that tooth and see. They say that also an trial option. So tired and frustrated with these trial options.

KashmirFlower · Apr 21, 2022

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Sorry for the late response.
I tested for ra factor and it was negative.
My rheumatologist said mine is like fibromyalgia and Myofascial syndrome. She said it's just a guess diagnosis as there's no definite test for fibromyalgia.
I have just started the research about anti inflammatory diet. Is it really helping you?

Do you have any auto immune conditions?
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@gknew Sorry to know about these issues you facing.
Yes I have RA first after 15 years also got Ulcerative colitis. Both auto immune diseases. I noticed some foods don't suit me, symptoms would be high for few days when I eat them. So eating Satvic food(it is mostly anti-inflammatory, but each body reacts differently to different food, so you have to check what is causing more symptoms)

There is another way, some people look at it. All these issues come because of "Leaky gut". That is why I shared the video series with you. Please understand this concept of leaky gut well to know how to take care of your self.
In the same concept, importance of probiotics. Natural ones are there like yogurt, dosa and idli etc.
But for IBS issues, supplement is recommended by doctors also. If you have any digestive issues probiotics or this below book helps.

I read this book which is small and straight forward, simple remedies given, following some of them helped me.

https://www.amazon.com/Leaky-Gut-Re...efix=leaky+gut+relief,digital-text,200&sr=1-1

Viswamitra · Apr 21, 2022

@gknew,

Metformin - Wikipedia. The above link gives you what Metformin is prescribed for. I am a regular user of Metformin for the past 5 years even though I am not diabetic. In the US, even a slightest increase in blood sugar level would be considered as a risk and the doctor's begin prescribing this automatically especially those who have obesity issue.

I printed an article and read it on a plane when I went to India in 2019. It said all about the medication prescribed for diabetic patients and how a major population of the world are considered in the borderline exposing the healthcare payers and providers to a higher cost in the future. However, prescribing regular diabetic medicine can have drastic impact on those who are in the borderline including steep drop of blood sugar level and when Metformin was introduced, it was a blessings to the risk faced by healthcare payers and providers because it didn't create any major reactions to the patients at the same time reduced future major exposure to expenditure. Therefore, it became most prescribed medicine.

Luckily, I don't have any reaction to Metformin so far.

MalStrom · Apr 21, 2022

My dentist charges $500 for a custom mouth guard, so it shouldn’t cost in the thousands. My insurance won’t cover the cost. Before I got that I was using a generic mouth guard I bought on Amazon. It was functional.

DDream · Apr 21, 2022

gknew said: ↑

Sorry for the late response.
My d is very low. I tested my d first time in 2017& it was 11. I am taking supplements since then. Its 25 now. Still lower range.

I have severe hair fall issue for last few years. I was taking iron supplements, but my iron didn't increase where my ferritin did. So PCP told me to stop taking iron.
No sinus issues as per the CT scan. I do get nasal congestion and do steam inhalation.

I have dental issues. Not sure if that's causing inflammation markers to be high.
I have jaw pain under the ear lobe area and neck. Along with one tooth pain. It didn't start as tooth pain. I went to the dentist for jaw pain and they find this tooth issue during that visit. This tooth hurts then they tapped on it and biting on it. Nothing seen on xrays and tooth CT scan.
Still get root canal for those symptoms 2 years ago when this pain all started. No relief and same symptoms after the root canal . Seen few more Endodontist. Recent gag retreatment of root canal on that tooth hoping it will resolve. No changes. Still same symptoms on that tooth for tapping, pressing and biting. They told me to try extraction as a trial and see if it helps.

I have seen neurologist too. Taking nerve medications to see if it helps. They don't see it as neurology issue.

Don't know what's wrong and I am still trying to find out.
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Are you taking any prescription Vit D. Include, cod liver oil or fish oil tablets. That helped me. Note that you need vit D well above 50 to prevent any auto immune issues. For iron, you can try slow release iron or iron rich foods. Both these deficiencies cause hair loss.
You can go for second opinion for dental issues. Please note that mercury based dental fixes can create reaction too. Now a days, gluten is cited as a reason for elevating leaky gut symptoms.

Hope you find a solution soon

gknew · Apr 21, 2022

MalStrom said: ↑

My dentist charges $500 for a custom mouth guard, so it shouldn’t cost in the thousands. My insurance won’t cover the cost. Before I got that I was using a generic mouth guard I bought on Amazon. It was functional.
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No Malstrom. I don't know if you know about TMJ specialist dentist. Their guards are called as splint and it costs around $5 to $6k. And it's not guaranteed if they will work and that's the reason none of the tmj specialist dentist are in network with insurance. They are out of network totally.
I should try a normal full arch mouth guard. My dentist is not ready to give me one considering my pain and history. He just pushing me off to TMJ specialist dentist office. I will see a new dentist and get one full arch guard.

I have tried many guards off Amazon and it didn't hope me. I tried hit mold ones and the ones just fits the teeth. Pain just increases with those. I will keep trying to see something if it helps.

gknew · Apr 21, 2022

DDream said: ↑

Are you taking any prescription Vit D. Include, cod liver oil or fish oil tablets. That helped me. Note that you need vit D well above 50 to prevent any auto immune issues. For iron, you can try slow release iron or iron rich foods. Both these deficiencies cause hair loss.
You can go for second opinion for dental issues. Please note that mercury based dental fixes can create reaction too. Now a days, gluten is cited as a reason for elevating leaky gut symptoms.

Hope you find a solution soon
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I was taking 50000iu d supplements once a week. It doesn't increase my value and it was still 25. So my rheumatologist put me on active form of D now. It's calcitriol 0.5 once a day. She said it's active form of D and it should help me increase the D value.
My iron is low but ferritin was high. So they told me to stop taking it. I am also trying taking vitamin K with D. Read that K Increases the absorption.
I will try fish oil tablets. Haven't tried yet.

gknew · Apr 21, 2022

Viswamitra said: ↑

@gknew,

Metformin - Wikipedia. The above link gives you what Metformin is prescribed for. I am a regular user of Metformin for the past 5 years even though I am not diabetic. In the US, even a slightest increase in blood sugar level would be considered as a risk and the doctor's begin prescribing this automatically especially those who have obesity issue.

I printed an article and read it on a plane when I went to India in 2019. It said all about the medication prescribed for diabetic patients and how a major population of the world are considered in the borderline exposing the healthcare payers and providers to a higher cost in the future. However, prescribing regular diabetic medicine can have drastic impact on those who are in the borderline including steep drop of blood sugar level and when Metformin was introduced, it was a blessings to the risk faced by healthcare payers and providers because it didn't create any major reactions to the patients at the same time reduced future major exposure to expenditure. Therefore, it became most prescribed medicine.

Luckily, I don't have any reaction to Metformin so far.
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Thank you.
My recent hba1c value was 5.9%. it was 5.4 the previous year. I have also gained weight in the last year.
My PCP is not ok with taking metformin for weight gain from medicines. But rhuematologist said I can try to stabilize the weight. Everyone have their own Philosophies.
She told me to watch weight and diet for a month and she will prescribe next month if necessary.