Anwering the controvery on Sathya Sai Baba

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  1. dattaswami

    dattaswami Senior IL'ite

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    The controversy is that Baba told that He will live up to 96 years, but the death is preponed by about ten years.

    An astrologer told that Baba lived up to 96 years according to the theory of the cycle of 27 stars. So much strain is not necessary in this issue. God has full freedom to postpone or prepone the lifetime of any human being including the human incarnation. It is not like the one hour bell for a teacher in the classroom. The case of the divine preacher is different. Generally, we find the teacher spending leisurely the rest of the period if the topic is over since he cannot quit the class before time. He is bound by the rules of the institution. But, if the principal enters and speaks for sometime, there is no binding on the time. Whenever the principal finishes his speech, he can quit at anytime and the concerned teacher follows the rest of the period.

    The human incarnation is the head of the creation. In fact, the life period of any human being can be preponed or postponed by God. If the human being is found to be useful, its life is extended. If the human being is found useless, its life is shortened and is thrown into the lives of birds and animals, which live only to eat and sleep. The extension and shortening of life period is mentioned in the ethical scripture also. It says that if you sleep after sunrise, your life is shortened. It also says that your life is extended if you serve the elders. Therefore, the life period is not a fixed item. Baba might have preponed the exit since He found that the humanity will not change really and might have been vexed with the changeless behavior of the human beings.


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    Another issue is that why He saluted the devotees with folded hands on the last occasion.

    You can find a similar situation in the case of Jesus also. Jesus washed the feet of His disciples on the last occasion of His departure. Jesus explained the reason of His such act. Jesus wanted that the disciples should never become egoistic and should treat their disciples with respect always. The devotees are human beings and their devotees are also human beings. One human being should respect the other human being. The case of Baba is different.

    Baba is God and the devotees are human beings. Baba need not respect His devotees. But, later on, some of His disciples may have again disciples and they may imitate Baba thinking themselves also as human incarnations. All these points stand as the basis for such acts of Jesus and Baba. Baba is giving the message that you should express gratefulness to anybody irrespective of the status. Baba is also giving the message that you should remain as devotee only with folded hands before God. You should never claim that you are the human incarnation with a blessing hand always, falling in the trap of the praise of your disciples.

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    Another issue is that Baba told that He will rise after three days from death of His body.

    Even in the case of Jesus, such a statement was made and this shows the similarity between Baba and Jesus. Shirdi Sai Baba also rose after three days after death. This miracle is not necessary in the case of Baba, who arose a dead person, which shows that Baba is the controller of the life. When Baba can rise other dead persons, can’t He rise Himself? Both the miracles establish the same concept. The point is that whether Baba can do it or not. If it is established by one type of miracle that Baba can do it, another type of miracle establishing the same concept need not be done again. For a wise person, one miracle, which is an unimaginable event, is sufficient to understand that the unimaginable God exists in that body.

    Rama has not done any miracle except one i.e., converting the stone into a woman by the touch of His foot. Is this one miracle not sufficient to establish that Rama is God? All the sages understood Rama as God because they are learned scholars. Rama performed this miracle in presence of the sage Vishwamitra and Vishwamitra propagated this miracle to other sages. Krishna performed many miracles. But there were many enemies for Krishna. Kauravas saw the top-most miracle, which was the cosmic vision, but still did not believe Krishna as God thinking that it is illusion of eye. For a human being, with the faculty of intelligence working, demonstration of one unimaginable event is sufficient. For human beings, burning with ego and jealousy, even if thousand miracles are demonstrated, all will be treated as magic or illusion of the eye.

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    Some people say that Baba was harmed by some of His followers.

    Is this possible? Can a human being harm God? Assuming that somebody harmed Baba, it must be the will of Baba only. Jesus was crucified by some people and it was done by the will of God only. If there is any sin in the followers, God will take care of it by giving punishment in the appropriate time. Why should you worry about it? You follow all the messages of Baba and try to practice so that God will be pleased with you and you will be protected by the grace of Baba. You are wasting your valuable time and energy in unnecessary things neglecting the essential aspects related to your future welfare. Jesus, while carrying on the cross told the weeping people that they should weep about themselves and their children.

    The reason is that after the momentary pain of crucifixion, Jesus will sit on the lap of God whereas the people will go to the permanent hell after this short happy life. You try to stand on the principles preached by Baba and you neither worry about Baba nor about others. Whether others follow or not, you follow the principles preached by Baba. Everybody thinks that he or she need not follow these principles since others are not following. The entire society thinks like that only. The king asked for the donation of one tumbler of milk from each house. Everybody thought that one can pour one tumbler of water, which will be mixed in the milk poured by others. Finally, the whole drum was full of water only! Everybody should follow the principles preached by Baba not caring for others [following]. If you are interested in their welfare, you preach them also after personal follow-up. If there is no change, even the entire mass will be punished, which is going to be the future action of Kalki. Don’t think that since it is an issue of the mass, there will be excuse.
    His Holiness Sri Dattaswami

     
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  2. pawarju

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    Your thread is good.But i would have appreciated more IF SAY YOUR POINTS OF VIEW WITHOUT COMPARING BABA WITH JESUS OR RAMA"" .
    NEVER COMPARE ANYONE WITH OTHERS. ALL ARE INDIVIDUALS AND DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES.
    JESUS IS GREAT IN HIS WAY.
    RAMA IS GREAT IN HIS WAY.
    BABA IS GREAT IN HIS WAY.
    SO NEVER COMPARE BIG PERSONALITIES.
    BY COMPARING YOU ARE HURTING / INSULTING THE RELIGION AND ITS DEVOTEES,.
     
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    Dear Dattaswami

    Sorry for diverting your thread but looks like you know a lot about religion and Spirituality.Actually I dont even know anything about Baba.Few days back I heard in news that people used to visit him to get rid of their diseases.Are there any such spiritual healers even now in South India ?Any temples ??I am from Noth India so dont know anything.Is there any other person like Baba ??

    Regards
    Stuti
     
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    ALL IS ONE, ONE IS ALL

    People who understand the meaning of this will know that we all are of the same life spark but with differences in awareness.

    Religion / Guru / Devotees / Etc..are all entities created by self to explain the concept to the self. But the self gets lost in the entities/concepts instead of being in the self.

    Peace be to all!
     
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    How very true Aspire............well said.
     
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    Thank you Samraa.
     
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    Dattaswami you have every right to post your view here and I think I can do the same. I am a Christian, born and raised as one. I respect all different religious people (and atheist) around me. I believe that all religion is based on some kind of faith. (It's not an exact science is it.) I don't mind your comparison, but would appreciate it if you can keep it to the minimum. Thanks!
     
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    You are correct..


    Think that you are the universal human being and not a Hindu or a Christian or a Muslim. You belong to all the Religions, which are the same syllabus in different languages. The same Lord appeared in different forms. Every Religion has a Gem. Use all the Gems in your spiritual life. Are you not using the Muslim petrol, scientific technology of Christians and analytical brain of Hindus in your materialistic life? Similarly you can use the merit of each Religion. Suppose paddy is grown in one part, pulses are grown in another part and vegetables are grown in some other part of the country. The department of civil supplies is moving rice, pulses and vegetables through out the country so that every person in the country has rice, pulses and vegetable curry in his meal plate. Such a meal only can give the full satisfaction to every body.

    Muslims are famous in regularity, discipline and firmness in the faith of the Lord. Even if it is not a holiday and even if it is working time and even in the journey they will pray the Lord. Hindus worship the Lord in the leisure time and Christians worship the Lord on a holiday. Similarly the love of Christians is a Gem. They love even their enemies and give funds to the spiritual centers of other Religions also. In Hindus tolerance is the Gem. They worship different forms of the same Lord. Therefore have firm faith and discipline like a Muslim. Show love even to your enemies like a Christian. Worship the different forms of the same Lord of all the Religions in the same manner like a Hindu. All these merits are like rivers merging in the ocean of spiritualism. Be a sea fish. Don’t be a stagnant river fish. All the Religions in the advanced stage mix and become one and the same in the spiritual ocean.
     
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    It proves that the God of all the religions is one and the same and He comes in human form in every human generation to preach and uplift the human souls. Thus for its shows the unity of relgions and corresponding, God in human form and it leads to unity and world peace and smashing of split.
     
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    Oneness of God of different religions

    Every religion says that its God created the entire earth and entire humanity. But, unfortunately there is only one earth containing this humanity. Due to one earth, there must be one God only and hence all the religions are calling the same God by different names. Since the God is unimaginable and nobody can even imagine Him, all the names are indicating that unseen and unimaginable God only. This unimaginable God is mediated by energy. Such mediated God is also one and the same because energy is also one and the same for all religions. This mediated God is called as Brahman by Hinduism, Jehovah by Christianity and Allah by Islam. The absolute unimaginable God as well as the medium [Energy] are one and the same and hence there is no difference between these three names.

    Of course, when the absolute God gets mediated by human bodies, there may be minute difference in the form, culture and language of the external human form as in the case of Krishna of Hinduism, Jesus of Christianity and Mohammad of Islam. Even here the material of the human body is one and the same except slight variation in the external form. From the point of absolute God, here also there is no trace of difference and hence all these three human forms are also one and the same.

     

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