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    Hi friends read this and share your views,:coffee

    Thanks to MR for having posted the article appeared in "The Hindu" on4.9.07.

    There are lot of talks about 1 2 3 Agreement between India & USA and it
    almost led to the topple of Central Government. In this mail I am trying
    to explain the commercial & technical aspects relating to this Agreement
    which I have read and sharing with you.

    What is 123 Agreement?

    This is called 123 Agreement because this comes under USA's Atomic Power
    Act Section 123.
    Let's see how India's (Indians?) Sovereinty & Independence are

    (1) After this Agreement USA will supply all fuel, machinery / equipment
    & technology to <India for producing Nuclear Power.

    (2) All these days from about 22 Nuclear Power Plants, India is
    producing power as well as Atom. It's a high security / secret that
    from where which is produced, how much is produced, where it is
    supplied, what research is being done with that, etc. to anybody. But
    if we sign this Agreement, we have to disclose these secrets and also
    agree to 14 of our Nuclear Power Plants to be under the scanner of
    International Atomic Power Organisation.

    (3) The fuel utilised to produce Atomic Power can be recycled for reuse
    and this plant will be under direct supervision of IAPO.

    If India does nuclear test, this agreement gets cancelled. But

    (1) USA will take back all the machinery / equipments / technology
    supplied to India thus far.

    (2) Those 14 plants will continue to be under scanner irrespective of
    the status of the agreement.

    On the other hand, if any of the commitments given by USA is breached by
    them, then there is no clause for cancelling this agreement.

    The agreement is apparently like this... USA can either hug India or
    slap India. India will not ask why are we hugged or why are we slapped.
    On the other hand, India cannot hug or slap USA for breach of agreement.

    This is only capsule so that easy to read and digest.

    Subject: India Pledged.... Part 2

    Requirement of Power

    The most important requirement for India's Economic Growth in the coming
    years will be the power & infrastructure. The argument put forth
    favouring the 123 Agreement says that we need Nuclear Power Production
    to be increased to meet the demand.

    Power Production in India

    Presently following are the figures:

    Thermal Power 66%

    Hydel Power 26%

    Solar & Wind Power 5% - Presently Rs.600 Crores are spent for producing
    this power.

    Nuclear Power 3% - If this is to be increased to 6%, it
    requires additional Rs.50,000 Crores.

    Naturally it will be wise to increase other 3 modes of power production
    rather than the expensive & dangerous Nuclear Power. Isn't??


    We used to import Uranium from various other countries. After the
    Pokran Test, we are not getting it. To augment the supply, we need to
    sign the 123 Agreement to get Uranium from USA.. But we will have to
    declare to USA from which power plant Indiatakes raw material for
    producing Atom Bomb. Why should we disclose our internal secrets to
    those bitches? Will any one allow an outsider to continuously monitor
    what's happening in your Hall & Kitchen of your house? Other study
    reveals that Uranium is available in India aplenty. Only hurdle is the
    acquisition of land. To produce Atomic Power & Bomb in the next 40
    years, the requirement of Uranium is 25,000 MT whereas the availability
    is 78,000 MT across India.


    Presently 35% of Plutonium is used to produce Atomic Bombs. After
    signing the Agreement, we will be allowed to use only 10%. Who are those
    bitches to restrict the usage of our natural resource ? That is though
    you are capable of cooking & eating 10 idlis as your breakfast, you are
    allowed only 3 idlis henceforth. How can it be? Why should we accept


    As told by Dr.APJ, we have abundant Thorium. In fact we are the 2nd
    largest producer of Thorium next only to Australia. India has to
    explore this further for producing power. For your information, in
    South India- particularly around Kanyakumari, the availability of
    Thorium is abundant.


    USA does not like the amicable relationship between India-Iran and also
    India-China. If India-China relationship gets stronger, then both these
    can rule the Eastern Part of the Globe which USA wants to break as per
    their divide & rule.

    By signing this agreement, wants India to depend on it for producing
    power which is going to be a crucial factor in future. There is a talk
    of bringing Natural Gas from Iran to India with a big pipeline project.
    USA doesn't like this proposal.

    Atomic Power Technology

    Whether power is produced or Bomb is produced, using Atomic power
    without spoiling the infrastructure and without allowing the radiation
    is always under threat. Moreover preserving the wastes coming out of
    Atomic Power Plants is expensive & unsafe.

    There was an accident in Three Miles Island in USA. To close this plant
    nearly USD 200 Crores spent with tons & tons of concrete but yet to be
    fully closed.

    In an another accident at Soviet Union's Serbia Plant, even the next
    generation child are affected due to the radiation.

    It will be very very expensive to defuse & close down an Atomic Power
    Plant than its construction cost.

    France France has got 56 Nuclear Power stations producing 73% of the country's
    total power requirement. They are catching up the problem of
    eliminating the wastes / emissions from out of those plants at the same
    time increase the power production capacity. Government of France is
    now thinking how to reduce the power consumption in the country.


    In view of the above danger, rather than signing the agreement and
    pledging India to USA, it will be prudent to increase the Solar & Wind
    Energy and more importantly Hyder Power Production can be increased by
    linking all rivers across India and by constructing DAMS. (Ofcourse Dam
    construction projects can be given to L&T's B&F Sector:)

    The whole process of this Agreement started in the year 2005 when
    Manmohan visited USA. In a span of just 2 years a major decision of
    signing this agreement has taken place with political motive. On the
    contrary, neither this Government nor any other earlier Central
    Government could not amend the Constitution thereby nationalise the
    rivers across the country thereby effectively utilise the water
    resources for both Agriculture purpose and producing Hydel Power. What
    an irony?

    Whenever someone is helping the needy, you can't expect the TERMS AND
    CONDITIONS BETWEEN THE needy and the helper to be EQUAL??? BUT

    (1) the helper's ulterior motive should be seen with broad eye because
    he is capable of digging a grave behind you and

    (2) better to be self-sufficient and explore new avenues with available

    INDIA-CHINA-USA India is very rich in Culture, follow Religions, Value Ethics, Level of
    Education is Very Good.

    China is also rich in Culture, follow Religion, better disciplined. USA does not have Culture, does not have Ethics, only want power over
    others. Particularly wants a firm footing in South Asia Remember the
    introduction EURO by European Countries and it is stronger than Dollar?
    So their "DAL" cannot be boiled at "EUROPE". They are trying in India
    as already Pakistan is in their clutches.


    Above is only a capsule of information. It will be easy & better to
    have an interactive session in a Hall with good auidence on topics such
    as this.

    Also look forward to your views on this subject.


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