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Oh My God! Episode 9

Discussion in 'Saturdays with Varalotti' started by varalotti, May 22, 2009.

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  1. May 25, 2009 #61
    varalotti

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    FB By aruna_077

    I just finished reading OMG part 9 - and It was too good.

    The only thing I cant get over is "how can a father rape his own child??"
    For me, this is the GREATEST SIN one can ever commit.
    I really question God - Why do you show such faces of human kind??

    And to what level the person might have committed SIN in the earlier birth, to be born to such sinisters?? I really dont find any answers!

    -Aruna
     
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  2. May 25, 2009 #62
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    Dear Sridharji,

    Thanks for holding a hand for feminism. But I think I over-reacted to your AV story. But your explanation is very lengthy and convincing.

    Continue with your stories. I am waiting for it.

    For my arugment reg. your AV story was simple. "IF sandhya goes with Rithvik, nothing wrong. Like Rithwik explained, fulfil your wish and forget it, instead of thinking it all the life". But I am very much against and our argument continued whole one hour. Finally I gave it up.

    I think all the men are same whether it is sridharji or sundar (just kidding)


    andal
     
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  3. May 25, 2009 #63
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    Dear Sridhar,
    I read your reply to Andal. Your reply seemed to be convincing as well as taking the sides of the fairer sex. But the subject being controversial is certain to create ripples, whether amongst AV readers or in the OMG episode 9 (AV post). If I had not known the other side of Varalotti's writings, I would have endorsed you as just another writer out there to make some money though it may be a pittance and also to gain popularity !!! It is ages since I stopped reading the magazines! In fact my mil had it with her and I didn't know how to get it from her right under her nose since she knows I don't read them! Thankfully, Vijaya had posted it right here in this thread!
    Frankly, I do not know what to say about the story but to accept the fact that such things do happen though it may be hard to digest.
    Love,
    Malathi
     
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  4. May 25, 2009 #64
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    Dear Priye,

    In the face of controversy I am facing because of the AV story this fb was quite soothing. Considering the importance of the subject I will give a line by line reply to your wonderful post.

    thanks. Analysis, especially of the mind and thoughts of our characters, is what we writers do most of the time.

    That was a clear but a very careful statement made by you. It is difficult to digest Sandhya's thoughts. But externally if you observe her there is nothing shocking. It's just a little more irritable, moody and short-tempered. But what caused these things is something we should go deep and find out.
    Actually there was no such thing as Sandhya's "act". All was only in her mind and head.
    I always have a policy that we can only judge somebody's words or actions. We can never judge somebody's thoughts. Not only we cannot judge but we should not judge somebody's thoughts. Good people are good not because they do not have bad thoughts but because they have bad thoughts and yet they do not act upon them.
    Your perception is something I should salute you for. You have categorically said it is possible. Even assuming that Sandhya was not right, we writers are concerned mostly with "wrong" characters than right characters.

    And there you hit the nail on its head. Exactly. Fortunately or fortunately I have been privy to the thoughts of many married men and women. To put it mildly most of them are not printable.

    My mission as a writer is to prove to the world and make the men understand that women are as good, as bad, as strong, as capable, as weak, as frail, as incapable, as moral, as immoral as men. Morality is not dependent on sex.

    I tell you priye if only Rishi had gone and had similar thoughts over a female escort (why even if he sleeps with her) then nobody would have protested. Well if the story is as dull as that it would not have been published at all.

    And the problem with us we are trying to rationalise love. We want to command love and tell that quality that you should raise in this occassion over that person at 8 AM in the morning. Well nothing could be more ridiculous than that.

    Some of my women friends after long hours of conversation told me that if only you had been available at the time of my marriage I would have chosen you. Well this is not immorality. And I should not take this as an invitation to an affair. I always appreciate the candour. But have not even let my finger nail to touch these people.

    One ILite wrote a pm to me saying that if only I can find a groom for her who is exactly like me, she would be very happy. She should be happily married now. We can't brand her as immoral because she wanted somebody exactly like me.

    that was very poetic, priye. Actually many people are thinking that I have degraded the French and German women. I just wanted to tell that in that kind of culture this is not an issue of mental turmoil. Again in that culture pre-marital virginity is not as important as post-marital fidelity. The girl would have even confessed to her husband on the wedding night that she had an one-night stand with a guy called Rithvik. And the husband would have just brushed that away.
    I am not blaming our culture either. This kind of conflicts and turmoils come in because we are so deeply rooted in our culture and yet want to do whatever is done in their culture - like travelling alone to a foreign country etc.

    You know Priye I am being attacked for this story from all corners. Only few people have accepted the idea. As I was writing this reply my writer-friend from Coimbatore has sent me a soothing sms saying that this story is going to rank me among the top writers. I smsssed him back telling that I have been attacked on all sides. And then he wrote back saying that that was a sign of success. Honestly Priye, I don't know. But your fb was also as soothing as his sms. I can never thank you adequately for that. May you and your be ever blessed.
    love,
    sridhar
     
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  5. May 25, 2009 #65
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    Sir,

    What a way of reply great. It was soothing.Thanks for giving me an opportunity to write whatever came to my mind.
    Whenever I try to argue something like this with my friends they think i am peculiar.
    I can go one step further but better stop here.Your are also a 'sarasari manushan dhane' though it is you who wrote the story but who knows you might also jump into a conclusions.

    Priye
     
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  6. May 26, 2009 #66
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    HI SRI
    AS USUAL UR OMG WAS OUT OF THE WORLD.
    MALYA'S TEACHINGS WAS VERY PROFOUND. TO UNDERSTAND LORD AT HIS FULLEST.... I DO NOT KNOW WHEN WE ALL WILL BECOME SO MATURE.
    now coming to av...
    i want to ask u several questions
    1) an entreprenuer like sandhya can meet any no. of attractive men in chennai itself.
    come on one does not need to really see an escort to get attracted.

    2) a sexually uninitiated girl like sandya might like a man's company but will shw hav thoughts of sex like any man would do is questionable
    3)whenever i hav gone abroad i hav seen indian men become more indian and asking about the motherlandwhich was absent here.
    indian men tend to act kind of protective.

    anyway i liked the mini tour of london
    brought back my memories.
    u really missed greenwich and thames bridge boss.
    i felt like i was standing in the pier.
    luv
    krips
     
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  7. May 26, 2009 #67
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    Dear Sridhar,

    This truly was a touching conclusion to Malya's story. There may be many Malyas around the world. Although very disturbing, it is a fact that Malyas will continue existing in our world. Human being, like the tail of the dog, can never change and straighten out. We are born with many weaknesses. From that lot, only a very few stand out and shine like KG. Now KG is a species which will be very hard to find.
    Therefore, it is more than clear that our Malya was specially blessed to have found KG in her life. Looks like Malya was God's own favorite daughter. After being burnt through most of her life, she did enjoy the blissful blessings of the Almighty. If not, she would not have found the wonderful gem of a man like KG when she most needed him and died the death of a beloved daughter.
    Well packaged and very well delivered Sridhar. Enjoyed this long episode.
    Congratulations on capturing Vikatan pages! So you are now convinced that marketing goes a long way?! Take heart in the fact that life is too hectic these days and sometimes even if the magazine is on your tabletop, time just is not there even to touch the mag!!
    That's the state of things today!!!

    L, Kamla
     
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  8. May 26, 2009 #68
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    Ha ha Sridhar,

    Looks like you are in your mettle now!

    Your Vikatan piece was a hot one and now with all the readers expressing their views on it, I see a healthy verbal exchange taking place. Something I know you enjoy very much.

    You did delve into a bold topic with making Sandhya falling for her escort, albeit only in her thoughts.

    On the outset, let me make it clear that your characters and situation did sound totally fictious and far from reality. Afterall, it was a fiction and thoughts stemming from a writer's fantasy filled mind! Because, in reality, every person is consulted as to what his/her needs are on their business trip. No one gets an escort 'thrown' at them without prior consultation. Secondly, not ALL escorts supply sexual favors as a done thing!! Those would be a different type of escorts! Thirdly, like one ILite has mentioned, handsome young men..Punjabi or not (!!)..are to be met anywhere in the world, even at your doorstep if so destined!

    The matter of morality is also not strictly the prerogative of an Indian woman. Maybe an Indian woman will not entertain such adulterous thoughts because of her upbringing and culture as much as her western counterpart. I agree with you that not every Indian woman will be immune to such thought! More so in today's scenario. Our women or more or less in par with the woman of the world today! And we would be lying if we do not admit to the fact that even the so called orthodox women have had their little flings. Most of us may have heard little gossips about one or the other mami doing this and that!!! Ha..so is life...Indian or not.

    Considering all the above, in this highly hypothetical scenario of your Vikatan fiction, it still sounds very improbable that Sandhya should fall for the outer physical charm of her escort with the knowledge that he has slept around! This inspite of her being in love with Rishi whom she intends to marry very soon. That seems the weak point of the whole story and it is the point on which you seem to have constructed the story!

    At the same time, I like to applaud you for being bold enought to want to state that a woman has the same needs and wants of a man and has the same rights (and wrongs?!) of a man. It goes without saying that we women have a stronger control over our harmonal impulses and the strength of character to withstand many a temptation. But basically, we too are human beings!

    High time that Indian writers give the woman her due!

    L, Kamla
     
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  9. May 26, 2009 #69
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    Dear Jaya,

    thanks for the fb. Surrender and acceptance are one and the same. You cannot surrender and yet feel uncomfortable about something. In the end everybody plays their role, the good and the bad, rapist and the prostitute, the saint and the sinner.

    KG is without ego because his heart is full of love. Love and ego cannot co-exist in the same place.

    Well said, Jaya. The regular guys do not have much to teach us as we also belong to the same category. On the other hand people like Malya who have seen the depths of suffering have many valuable lessons to offer to us. Given a healthy life, a picture perfect family and a rewarding job, that kind of unconditional surrender is very difficult.
    The great thing about Malya is that unlike many of her sisters in similar circumstances she did not let her sufferings choke her heart. And that's where we have a lesson or two to learn.

    that's okay, Jaya. May be someday I'll translate the story into English. Or may be not.Let's see.

    Thanks, Jaya. The language flows because of the nature of the subject. Its something I love to write.
    Only an hour back the editor of a magazine called me to ask if I could write a serial on spiritual subject for them.
    I told him on his face that if he was looking for something like the "supermarket spirituality" (eg. if you have knee pain go to temple x. If you cannot recover the money you lent go to temple y) then I am not the guy. He told me with a smile, "No sridhar sir we want only spiritual love stories."
    That's the nice word which will fit like a glove to the story of Malya and KG.

    thanks once again for the fb, Jaya. See you on 29th May.
    love,
    sridhar
     
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  10. May 26, 2009 #70
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    Dear Sowmya,
    thanks a lot for your "wordless" fb. It means a lot to me. Eagerly looking forward to your fb on the Anandavikatan story.
    love,
    sridhar
     
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