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  1. SGBV

    SGBV IL Hall of Fame

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    I know my husband for almost 2 decades, and we are married for 13 years now.
    Before marriage, he used to be a very lively person, with so much friends around him.

    At the age of 21, he left his parents in India and moved to Sri lanka following a mishap at his home. Since then, he wanted to stay away from his family.
    He started his life in Sri Lanka from the scratch. Joined as a waiter at a restaurant for his survival, and then eventually started studying with the hope of going to UK - Which was his dream then. After a few months, he was lucky enough to receive a decent job and progressed so well in his career.

    I met him when he was so down and had no prospects in his life back in 2002. We travelled together so far in life. Both of us were self made people, and grew well together as friends.

    We got married in 2008.
    Upon knowing their son's status (plus mine), his parents decided to join us for good. It all seemed good when I left the country 3 weeks post marriage for work, hoping to invite my H on dependent visa and eventually securing him a job in the new country- which seemed very possible back then.

    Within 3 months of our marriage, my H changed to a different personality. He treated his parents like God. Showed lack of interest in joining me in abroad, instead he started controlling my finances remotely. The moment he gained access to my savings (via joint account) he left his job. This has eventually created some rifts between us and he chose to side with his parents completely.

    Fast forward to today, 13 years later.........

    Here I am, with a very successful career, settled life, wonderful support system and an amazing family :)

    On the other hand, it took my H nearly 10 years to realize that his parents were literally looting him by taking advantage of his yearning for their love. They took him on a long guilt ride, for which he has paid a hefty price.
    His dad wanted to control our finances; hence made his son a puppet. He tried all the possible ways to retain his son under his umbrella, to ensure his DIL's (my) savings will flow into his accounts. My H danced as per their tunes by quitting his job, investing on FIL's properties, giving D threats to me, and punishing the child - including taking him away while I was in abroad, to make sure that, I continue the money flow.

    After a long battle, I revived and separated the finances. That was it. In laws kicked my H away, and even tried to kill him :(

    He was shattered, undoubtedly shocked and unable to process what was going on in his life. Initially he was in denial, often gave benefit of the doubt to his dad. He thought his mom & siblings were nice. Gave so much loopholes for them to twist & turn things around.
    This has made him suffer another couple of years. During this, one of his best friend (cum relative) was with him, and he was confusing him by taking his parents' side. He did not allow my H to see things from a neutral POV.

    Apart from proving their evil side, I did nothing to save my H. Because I was struggling myself to get out of their trap, save my marriage and progress in life single handedly. It was already draining, and I had many health complications, and problems in life... So, I least bothered about his well-being that time.

    Last year his best friend died at the age of 40. He just received a new post, with an increased insurance for death. He also recently separated from his FOO, who was his biggest support system. On his funeral, we came to know of all the foul plays involved in his death for money. His wife was my FIL's niece. His life was no different from that of my H, except for the fact that he escaped from the trap a little early.

    Nevertheless, my H learned his lessons the hard way. He got scared, and decided to accompany wherever I go, just to stay away from his evil parents. He has stopped communicating with his FOO, including his siblings. His siblings are reasonable people with brains. So they least involved their parents, and chose to stay away from their parents for good.

    It has been a year since we have left the country. We are financially well-settled. But I still manage the family's finances single handedly.

    My H feels empty, and helpless here. He is ashamed of staying home for the first time in the past decade, especially before the kids and others in this new country.
    He has sincerely applied for jobs, but given the long gap in his career and lack of competence (he has lost it), he doesn't seem to be getting anything.

    While I can understand his mental health & psychosocial problems, I easily get pissed off when he shows laziness, negativity, lack of enthu and the negative coping mechanism. Especially he either sleeps or eats or watch useless videos in phone during the day.

    I feel bad for my son, who grow up looking at his lazy dad & show signs of laziness already.

    I feel bad for my H, because my mom and others hurt him with lose talks targeting his unemployment and past mistakes.

    But i don't wanna trust him again or give access to my hard earned finances as long as his parents are alive. I just give him reasonable pocket money. That's all.

    Today, I feel like helping him to re-start from where he left. It will be really difficult to make him unlearn all the negativity and laziness to prepare for a job.
    His dependent visa is yet another problem.

    But I want to work with him. He clearly lacks the listening capacity. He easily goes on self pity mode, and his fragile ego strikes on; hence I basically avoid discussing anything related to his employment these days.
    But I feel, I shouldn't let this wonderful person sink... He minus his parents' involvement is a gem of a person. A highly educated and very talented employee.
    He must live his life with pride & happiness. He deserves a chance.....

    This is just a vent - a journal in my life, but I would also like to hear your opinion friends :)
     
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    Will showing him motivational videos work..or can he try in another field.what about home business... anyway I do not know how effective my suggestions are but will pray for both of you
     
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    This hurts to say but Nope. Sorry you are his umbrella when it rains . So you feed him and take care.

    you want him to change, ask him to take any job that he gets and build up on that. anything driver to teaching or marketing.

    i am not trying to hurt and i apologize if it did. in my house Dh sat with DD in beginning of holidays. explaining how he did not focus and screwed his entrance exams when he was teen. DD has to write SAT. Dh explained very practically asked her if she needs to join coaching. find pair buddy or buy books. We got the expensive books. then also gave examples, just follow that book , complete it fully. give mock exam. you will be good.

    DD spent her summer, watching YouTube on how to crack SAT. instead of studying. now after her exam, she says she wants to do coaching. We have to enroll in sept.

    sorry , the day the COST of NOT CHANGING is more expensive or dangerous than Changing comes, then people change. Scare tactics, motivational talk works so much.

    I pray things go well.
     
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    He will continue to wallow in self pity if he just sits at home and keeps thinking about the past. Ask him to start applying for any jobs: retail, restaurants, whatever. Then tell him to look into any classes or certifications he can do to improve his chances of getting a job in his chosen field. Many employers will prefer to hire those who are already working vs those who have been sitting at home.
     
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    Thanks for responding, but I am sorry that I don't think motivational videos work.
    I have tried sharing many directly and indirectly via FB or family groups so that he could watch. But you only listen what you want to listen. So, it never worked.

    Well, during past few years I have been helping him to try alternatives. I badly wanted to do 2 different home business when we were living in Sri Lanka. There was high potential, and market demand for certain items which we could thankfully get through our contacts.
    I had invested a lot of time in coordinating, doing market assessments and building on a social platform to establish that home business. I even named it, and registered it properly.
    Since I could not focus full time on this business, I have asked my H to take care of it. I even gave him the authority to plan & decide for the business since it will be ours. I was all prepared to register the same in his name if he was interested.
    But he was so negative about that, and didn't wanna take up.

    When I insisted, he was like how come you can ask a professional with a masters' degree to do home business?

    So, I gave up that idea. I am sure, one day I will pick up from where I left and excel in that promising business.
     
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    This is very true.

    If there is a will, there is a way. This man doesn't feel like going out or look for jobs beyond what he wants to do or what he thinks will suit his caliber.
    If I ask him to go for any jobs like driver or teacher, he will think I am forcing him for money and start going back to self pity mode.

    My mom is really concerned about this, and the other day she questioned me "how long is he going to stay like this'? It is not because money, because by God's grace we are well settled. But for his own mental health needs, he must go out, see people, and earn a sense of achievement. He is just 40, and he has a long way to go.
     
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    Exactly... I have been directly and indirectly telling him the same.
    He needs to go out, see people, build connections and from there he can find a place as per his needs.
    If I were him, I would be happy to work in a retail shop and try building my network with the customers.

    I have asked him to do a few certifications, which he has done a lot.
    In fact, to shut others who comment on him staying home, he keeps studying and telling them that he is busy studying and looking for jobs that meets his caliber.


    I am all fine with a house husband. I just want him to focus his life towards something or the other than doing nothing.
    He can invest his time with the kids, teach them, invest in their home schooling activities, or take them to classes, coaching etc
    He can help me/mom at the kitchen or cleaning the house or even grocery shopping.

    For now, we are spending a lot for the maid, cleaner, kid's coaching, and I & mom struggle a lot with their exams, teaching and home-works besides all that we do for the family. But he just sleeps or eats or watch endless youtube. At times, he doesn't even have time to spend with kids.

    He is being a wrong example for the growing kids, and that is my worry.
     
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    I am sorry madam. there is no other way . it is not about caliber. i read your online business plan. it is again your business, since you put in all the work. it does not work like that. in tamil they said

    a lesson taught or food cooked and given in hand does not last ever.

    you want change you have to go hard.

    does he exercise. if not push. that triggers a lot of things.
     
  9. winterhue

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    Hi SGBV,

    First of all congratulations on putting in all the hard work and building a stable platform for yourself and your kids. It is no easy job for a woman to do without support. But you did it!! Take a bow!!

    Now, I am going to play devil's advocate here - so bear with me (apologies in advance . This is not mean to hurt you or demean you in any way. I am just trying to give a perspective from the other side).

    Thinking from your husband's PoV, what started as a brilliant and bright career fizzled out and lays burnt to ashes . He thought he had his mom and dad as support , but now he has realized that none of that ever mattered. In fact, it hurts constantly thinking of how they probably don't even love him. Combine that with the fact that he has a super successful wife who is in control and is managing everything really well. Society constantly emasculates a man if his wife is even a wee bit dominant, so he has probably heard it all in his life (from "joru ka Ghulam" to "spineless" to everything else that the desi society uses to describe a man who cant bring home the moolah). He probably has heard this from his very near and dear ones (like his parents and you). So everyday, he tells himself "I am worthless" and at some point he slips into a mental state of depression where he believes that he is really worthless. I have seen this happen with a lot of my friends who are stay-at-home moms. I have tried sending them links to courses, update resumes, motivational videos. But they never seem to latch on to anything.
    You understand his mental health, but what if this very mental health is what you perceive as his "laziness" ? What if that "lack of enthu" is actually the symptom of a deep down mental breakdown or depression?

    I dont know if he is seeking help from a therapist, but the first and foremost step in this case is to seek help from a therapist. You both should go to couple's counselling too . From your conversations I can sense that you have this feeling that you have been the one holding up this relationship and that your husband has been a failure in all phases and it must not be easy to be in a marriage with him. Also, deep down you have a guilt that you were the reason that he is no longer in touch with his family (even though its not your fault, but you were the catalyst). You probably need to process this too.

    The second thing that you are doing wrong is comparing him with his current self and the boy you fell in love with . We all change. Maybe your husband has changed too. In his evolution, he may have left some of the defining characters of the boy you met in your 20s. I think you yourself have evolved too , right? So I would say stop that train of thought of "he used to be so efficient and motivated" . I would say, observe the evolution and accept that he is never going to be like he was in the past, but instead look at what he can become.

    Third, we all are obsessed with the idea that we need to be doing something "productive" all the time. We worry that the kids need to see a role model at home who is working always, or is busy always or is seemingly "succesful" always. Attributing your son's perceived laziness to your husband being the role model is a bit of a harsh judgement I think . In that case, why is your son is not drawing that motivation from you. As kids grow, they do develop a personality based on their circumstances , but putting it squarely on your husband is probably going to push him further into depression or resentment ("oh, i was never a good enough husband for you, now I am not good enough parent too?").

    The summary of my writing is, I dont have a solution for you saying try this and try that. But what I was trying to offer was a peep into whats probably going on in his head. Maybe it will help you think from his side and chose the right path. Again , lots of hugs to you. Hope you come out strong from this too!
     
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    I think he just got more accustomed to this lifestyle. No motivational videos or gyan from you is going to help him.
    Only he can help himself! He needs to get some motivation from somewhere. I believe if he starts in the right path/job, theres no turning back after that.

    On a lighter note, like in drama series and movies, when kids ask certain uncomfortable questions to dads, they might listen!
     

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