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Discussion in 'Snippets of Life (Non-Fiction)' started by Balajee, Feb 27, 2022.

  1. Balajee

    Balajee IL Hall of Fame

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    Satchi where on earth does anti-CAA protests got to do with Ukraine situation? Nothing wrong in expressing your political views wherever you are. Right or wrong My Country is a very dangerous and unhealthy attitude, If you truly love your country yo0u will speak openly about what you consider are itsa flaws or that of the ruling dsispensation, even if the lattert does not take kindly and h or heed sauch criticism,


    Yes, the government did issue an advisory and many Indians left , thousands of them and the government claims credit for evacuating them! though they left on their own. The poor students stayed on because the colleges require 100% attendance. And they began leaving only after ther war was declared and bombardments began. There was no attempt to evacuate from Ukraine itself,. They trekked long miles to the neighboring countries from where the Indian govt povided them transport back home.
     
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    I absolutely agree that we need to be able to look our own flaws in the face and that it is the pre-requisite to better ourselves as a nation. But that does not imply that we wash our dirty linen in some foreign country. Our stock everywhere is already low. Ask the world, we can't do anything right, ever.

    The reference to the CAA (no, it has no direct connection to war or evacuation, but certainly to attitude) is to illustrate the fact that this is just what that particular student did in another country, foul-mouthed his govt and then cried that the govt was doing nothing, although he came back home safe and sound ..... and then for whatever reason praised the same govt for the evacuation. Proof that the govt is not exactly vindictive either.

    Agreed some students may have stayed on due to attendance requirements. But then what is the point in complaining that the govt did not come and air lift them before the war started instead of just issuing an advisory? Is that not self-contradictory? They could not have left in any case.

    As for the criticism about the govt air lifting from outside (which according to them qualifies ONLY as transport and not evacuation), how can any sane person fly into a war zone at the risk of being shot down? What if the aircraft carrying evacuees is shot down? Criticism is fine, but criticism for the sake of criticism without consideration of all factors .....???

    If these are the 'poor' students (are they really so poor?), then they should be grateful for the free shelter, food and transport they got back. But these 'poor' students were complaining about lack of vegan food, on-flight entertainment, not being given a free ticket from point of entry to their homes.

    Criticizing a govt which has spent so much money and effort on transporting you back is nothing but ingratitude. Even if not grateful, one can surely be gracious?
     
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    In this interconnected world which has shrunk due to increased and advanced communication links it hardly makles a difference whether you wash your dirty linen at home or abroad,. Yes it is insane and suicidal to fly into a war zone but then one shouldn't hype the provision of transport as an immense achievement.
     
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    When all the western countries where actively pulling out their people from Ukraine sending a memo note is equivalent to sending a roll of toilet paper, when you know you have thousands of students studying in that country and decide to send a memo and only react when things get bad ?
     
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    That’s what people from democratic country do protest if they don’t agree with the government policy, policies change when governments change equating a protest against a policy to non-patriotic is nonsense.

    There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice but there must never be a time when we fail to protest.

    -Unknown

    you run your country down when a foreign government bans you from entering

    Narendra Modi shall not be granted US visa: American official

    you run your country down when you walk away from an interview when you are confronted with reality



    you run your country down when you go on the national television and ask why the students have to go to Ukraine to study

    “Insensitive”: PM Modi Faces Flak For Asking Why Indians Go Abroad To Study Medicine - India Ahead
     
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  6. satchitananda

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    Considering the numbers, the planning and organization required, not to speak of costs, I can't say honestly that it has NOT been a phenomenal achievement.

    Anyway, I have expressed my opinion on this topic and I guess I would not like to keep repeating myself.
     
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    US Started the evacuation on February 24

    U.S. nonprofit group evacuates first Americans from Ukraine

    Modi realized that he has to deal with the political crisis if he did not do anything so he started to react at the end when the war started.
     
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    We have seen many best from this government during COVID, demonetisation etc etc



     
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    The expectation is eat the salt that we provide and vote for us and don’t ask questions



     

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