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Discussion in 'Health & Wellness' started by vidukarth, Mar 23, 2021.

  1. Viswamitra

    Viswamitra Finest Post Winner

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    @vidukarth,

    One other thing that came to my mind is the lighting at home. If you can, organize switches that can dim the lights in the evening to help your brain to induce sleep.
     
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    I started a hard rule of putting away devices around here by 9:30. For everyone. Did it for my dd but I feel so much better rested. Do try it! It does work. I have made an exception for my kindle but that doesn’t have browsing capabilities and I can only read pre downloaded books on it. In fact, I just chanced upon your post - last browse before phone away time. I feel like my sleep quality is so much better. It may help you too. I’ve read something about the light from devices causing insomnia. Give it a shot while you are exploring other things.
     
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    :hello: According to medical science is the good news is that most cases of insomnia can be cured with changes you can make on your own—without relying on sleep specialists or turning to prescription or over-the-counter sleeping pills.

    2. The raga Nelambari in the classical Indian Karnatic system of music is said to be able to induce sleep and also have some sleep promoting qualities.
    • This hypothesis was scientifically tested using sleep polysomnography with eight healthy subjects who listened to either Neelambari (test) raga or Kalyani (control) raga. There was no difference in sleep architecture or in subjective feeling of quality of sleep. The anecdotal references to the quality of sleep promoting effects of Neelambari probably reflect a conditioned response since most lullabies in South India are sung in Neelambari raga.( from google)

    3. The below mentioned throws more light on how to catch the sleep.





    Second ref to link is of sathguru. Trust watching this would help you to trace the cause for insomnia yours in particular.


    4. Effect of occupational noise on the nocturnal sleep architecture of healthy subjects - PubMed
    The above link is worth your time. It may have the answer or remedy that you are looking for.

    5. There are herbal remedies and one such you have reported in the post already. I heard from patients that valerian herb (garden heliotrope) helps in satisfaction both in quality and quantum. How this to be administered to suit you -that you must determine. Cherries available in extract form in groceries contain melatonin, which when consumed in juice form allows your body to regulate its sleep cycle and lets you sleep longer. ( it is said melatonin produced in the day when active for putting person into sleep in night while in sound sleep body produces serotonin to keep person active hence it is important activity and sleep areto be kept in balance for a sound mind in healthy body).

    6. Cherries reported to contain tryptophan, a substance that reduces the time needed to fall asleep, letting you sleep faster.
    To improve sleep quality, warm cow milk with a dash of turmeric powder or and chamomile tea also could be tried before retiring to bed.

    Natural Remedies and Herbal Supplements as Sleep Aids

    7. Maintain sleep schedule and if at all you want to read, read only a printed book with texts in font 14. Fine prints as in mews paper to be avoided. Avoid distracting things such as gadgets and reduce illumination in sleep area as already suggested here by fellow IL’ite @Viswamitra .

    8. you may reverse the mattress and change pillow cover and have it all lighter shades. Ensure mattress comfort all over. Advance dinner time three hours before going to bed. Keep dry no oil dinner light.

    9. If you don’t get sleep get out of bed do something else engage in solving some calculus problems listen to meditative music no visuals.

    10. In an average adult and children, One am to three am is said to be the time liver is busy in filtering blood and it also maintains balance between hormones that are responsible for thyroid adrenal and sex functions.

    You must just avoid thinking you suffer from lack of sleep or no sleep at all. Enjoy your wakeful hour engage yourself in activity that doesn’t cause discomfort or inconvenience to rest of members of family.

    Discover what is the trigger that put you out of sleep. Before trying to sleep, Concentrate on Deep breathing ten to twelve times and lo NITHRA Devi will embrace you in a jiffy.

    There is nothing to be scared of. 4-5 hours of sleep is enough for all people in high places too. All big shots in the top echelons are working almost round the clock and they sleep only intermittently and in quantum too less than four hours. They are all strong robust healthy agile alert . Examples numerous - Indian PM N Modi, presidents of big Nations and other celebrities in various strata.
    Thanks and Regards.
     
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    Viswamitra sir,
    Thank you for all the suggestions and the detailed response. Yes, I think it could be something in the subconscious mind thinking about parents and in laws back home alone in their old age with no one else to help especially during covid. They are able to manage now, not bad, but seeing other extended family most of them have either son or daughter to take care over there if they needed help. It is just my parents, being the only daughter with no siblings and for in laws, son (my husband) and daughter are here in US. But We are kind of the generation stuck here with kids here in schools, not able to go back to take care of parents, and also waiting for GC and all these may be worries me. Most of my age cousins are back in India, while am here, not able to attend for good or bad. Sometimes these thoughts haunt me, during day time, since we are active, there is no room to think about it. At night somedays these thoughts keep coming over and over. I start reciting slokas and then ultimately feel better and come to a point God is always there to protect and never know when I eventually sleep.

    But I really really appreciate you taking your time to suggest so many things to help with sleep.

    yesterday was better: I took the covid vaccine first shot, took dinner at 7pm, went to bed early, stayed awake till 12:30 but then slept, woke up around 3:30 was awake for sometime then slept before i woke up around 6:30, thanks, will try to follow what you all suggested.
     
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    Malstorm,

    Thank you , i brought it up to my primary care last september, he did not take it seriously, he told me to walk 3 miles a day, eat dinner early. But I was not that serious too then, and thought I will get over. I got ashwagandha as suggested by my Indian ayurvedic doctor, did not start taking yet, want to get over it without medicines. Will try to change my lifestyle as other IL's suggested and get back here.

    Appreciate you taking time to reply to my post.
     
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    Thyagararjan Sir,

    Thank you very much for taking time to list so many points that I can refer and work on related to the sleep. I will definitely go over each and everyone and try to see what I could apply to help with this. I do ask my daughter or husband to sing or play neelambari :).

    And your idea about doing calculus is hilarious, may be that might push me to sleep.. will keep sudoku or a hard math problem if am awake :)

    Your last point definitely boosted me.. and make me feel better, that I should not worry about this. Yes, i heard even sathguru's speeches were he says how less he sleeps on somedays.

    Thank you again for your valuable comments and taking time to reply to me.
     
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    Laks, sure I should do that rule at home too, somedays my middle schooler works late due to homework and i end up sitting with her. But this week i said, we will have to get done with everything before 9pm.

    You are a great inspiration with raising kids, i have seen your other posts and things that you deal with on a daily basis, whenever i get stressed out and shout at kids, i think about you, you are a role model as a parent, and kudos to you.
     
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    I hope you don't have any reaction to COVID shot. I had already taken both shots and I had no reactions. I am glad you are making small lifestyle changes.

    I understand the emotions associated with being the only child to your parents as my wife also is the only child and kept worrying about her parents in India for many years since we migrated to the US in 1995. Both your family and my family made that major migration decision to educate the children here in the US. Unfortunately, those years when the children grow up, the parents also get aged and we feel miserable unable to support them when they need us the most. Luckily, I have a brother who took care of my mother back in India, and hence I need to worry only about my inlaws. My mother passed away in 2018. If you are waiting for a green card, you can still travel to India under a parol visa even though it takes a little longer at the first point of entry into the United States.

    Knowing my wife felt miserable living away from her parents, I decided to visit every 2 years to India and brought them over to the US in years when we were not visiting. When we go to India, we were going only for 3 weeks and my in-laws were able to come and stay with us for 6 months. That also gave an opportunity for my son to interact more with my inlaws.

    Besides, my wife and I made a decision to enroll ourselves as volunteers with the Hospice and were diligent in meeting many elderly patients regularly. We used to treat them like our own parents when we provide services hoping that loving service would reach our parents in some form. It is a connected universe and everything we do to other elders would reach our parents in some form or the other. This is one way to satisfy our subconscious mind.

    My father-in-law died in 2013 and when he was in death bed, I rushed my wife immediately to India before his death. I also reached within 24 hours to perform the last rites of my FIL. During that trip, we requested our MIL to migrate to the US even though she was reluctant. Now she lives here in the US since 2013 and has a green card now.

    When we raise our children, we can think about how our parents raised us, and contribute the same way to our children. That is the best we can do when we are 10,000 miles apart from our parents. If we consider raising our children with the same values we were raised, it might be another way to convince our subconscious mind that it would be satisfying to our parents.

    I am sure your parents and inlaws would love to spend time with your children. More we can do without much financial stress, that would help them fulfill their wishes.
     
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    Viswamitra sir,

    Thanks for checking on me. yes no reaction on covid shot, I got the pfizer, glad you are doing good too.

    I can relate to your wife very much. Very nice of you to take care of your in laws, we were also going to India every year, though it is only 3 or 4 weeks, try to spend time equally with both parents. My kids like India and they enjoy spending time with grandparents. Yes, agreed, totally trying to raise kids with the values we had though we cannot expect much, trying best to do what we can. yes we are on EAD\AP getting closer now to GC. Yeah, they were visiting us till 2015 after which due to health conditions they couldn't come anymore. So we are visiting every year. They are not comfortable visiting here due to existing health conditions and the cold weather, since we are in East coast and the doctor expenses when on visitor insurance. Am sure am not the only person like this and many people are sandwiched between here and there.

    But i feel much better after writing out here and getting positive feedback. We were also thinking about relocating to TX, or any other warmer place if we have to bring parents here, but kids school and friends are influencing the decision and not able to decide on that.
     
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    Hi vidukarth,

    I can relate to your situation. I am also living in East coast and my mother living in South India , father expired in 2011, she is financially sound with pension and other assets, my brother (who is single and in late 40s) living in North India for his job purpose and does not care my mothers needs, he is very formal and does not take complete responsibility. I become restless here with many what ifs questions in my mind and with uncertainty of future. I feel unhappy and helpless everyday, with COVID situation I am scared to visit her.

    Yoga, prayanayama are helping me to keep my mind balanced , all the tips given above by others are also very valid.
     
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