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Discussion in 'Married Life' started by sandu, Mar 30, 2010.

  1. sandu

    sandu Bronze IL'ite

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    Thanks for each one of you for your responses. I admit that a sea change is required in my husband for us to lead a happier life. Very little that I can do. I agree. I can only pray to God now.

    I too have my own shortcomings - not that I am a saint. Of late, I have been losing patience when he supports his mom's behavior and I too talk back, arguing about what wrong things my in-laws and criticising them to him. I know it is better to avoid such disputes; somehow, I must try to be calm when he fights with me. I have lost most of my patience after my mil left :bonk

    pingme, yes, I like to talk a lot. I can do that only in IL. But, I do not agree that I act very little. It is only based on the advice I got from IL that I chose to direct my salary to my separate account, that I decided to ask my husband about what he does with his salary, that I decided to do many other things I did and said. Now, I simply dont want a divorce. I have the gut feeling this is a passing phase and things will work out sooner or later. He might not agree with me that I am right and his mom is wrong - that will be a miracle. But, if he co-operates with me and lets me work and maintain a peaceful environment at home, that in itself is a big step forward considering the trauma they have subjected / are subjecting me to.

    I have already told him that I wont put up with rubbish from his mother - no more abuse. Full stop. I dont see what good I will achieve in denying to talk to them, still. That is his raw nerve.

    I also want your suggestions on how to make him agree to see a counsellor.

    Now, he is asking me to join for dinner party at his friend's house and join some others on a trip this weekend... We have been showing off to others that we are indeed happy by attending dinner parties till now. But now, I am really very angry and tired. Should I oblige?? On one hand, it will be a good diversion for both of us, rather than sitting at home and fighting. On the other hand, I feel he just takes me for granted. Does he feel bad if others come to know of our problems if we stay away from parties? I am puzzled what to do now.

    Sandhya
     
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  2. Priya16

    Priya16 IL Hall of Fame

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    Sandhya,

    I don't know you have this in your aras or not.But I beleive in lot of palces there was yoga or spiritual camp for 2-3 days.Find out you have that camp in your palce.I belevie they accomadate the whole family.
    If your husband is not interested,leave your daugther with him and attend that camp.That will give to stay away from home sometime and give mental peace.
    Ask him to go alone and you go to your friends place for week end.I beleive sometimes couple needs the break.
    Basically lot of men who lives in US acting strange with paretns just because they are missing them for living far away and they try accomodate all there demends.So couple needs break too.Find something you can do by yourself.
     
  3. Foundlove

    Foundlove Gold IL'ite

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    Good opportunity.Tell him you will put up with the show if he goes to counsellor.
    Look for http://www.indusladies.com/forums/married-life/15595-help-establish-global-helpline-il.html

    And find good counsellors in your area.If they are women's org then you don't have to pay even.

    So go to the party and outing if he promises to go to counselling.If he goes back on his words later then there are more parties and you will just not go.

    Remember you need to tell a few women whats going on and all will know.They will be hush hush in front of you but they will know.

    Its better if ppl know.

    FL
     
  4. riya123

    riya123 Gold IL'ite

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    Sandu,
    I'll share a similar story with you.. It is my cousin's stoyy.. She too is a brilliant girl and husband - a mama's boy.. MIL -a dramatic psychopath, can go out of her way to create trouble to my cousin..
    My cousin was working.. They both were living with in-laws.. From the beginnig things didn't get on well with them, somehow she put up for one year.. After that things got worse, every alternate day a high emotional drama at home.. She too was forced to hand over her income to in-laws.. Husband was already crediting his income in his dad's account..

    One day, she took a serious call and told him that she would separate (not divorce, just moving out of the house).. She went and joined her parents (in the same city) and continued with the job.. In her parents home she found much solace and also got some promotions at work.. Initial days of separation, her in-laws hurled abuse at her parents for keeping their daughter at home.. But they chose to ignore them and blocked their ph nos.

    Just a few days after their separation, cousin's BIL got married.. Cousin's relation had soured with them and didnt go for their wedding.. But in the mean time, BIL had learnt his lessons, looking at how his bro's wife got treated.. her BIL and co-sis, started behaving very indifferently towards her in-laws.. Co-sis was head strong, she treated her MIL like a door mat, but also treated my cousin's husband like a doormat..
    Her MIL and her husband were literally treated like doormats by her BIL and co-sis..
    Then they both realised my cousin's worth and her husband apologized to her.. But my cousin was clear that she would join him back only if agrees to cut out his mom's interference..

    Once his mom's interference was cut out, they both worked on their relation and they both are happy couple today.. As of today, they live separately and once a month meet their in-laws.. They are in good terms now..

    So i think, some kind of temporary separation should help your husband understand your worth.. That also would induce a kind of urge in him to get his family (you and the child) back.. I doubt if he even knows what divorce actually means!!..
     
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  5. SriVidya75

    SriVidya75 Platinum IL'ite

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    Sandu

    Your husband would surely talk to his parents about what all you spoke or suggested to him...i.e counselling etc...and his parents response would be..she is not the right girl for you..she is the mad one who needs treatment. She is arrogant blah blah blah...and now she calls you sick and asks you to go to a counsellor???? so think what would be your husbands response to all this from his parents side...and how he would react to you??

    So again....unless he cooperates in anything...this cant be fixed.
     
  6. asuitablegirl

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    Bingo. I couldn't have said it better. SriVidya is SO right on this one. That is EXACTLY what his parents are going to say when he parrots back what you've said to him. They will NEVER lose the chance to rile your husband up, and he is like a ready and waiting puppet for them to control. Whenever they feel like creating havoc in you house, all they have to do is start the drama with your husband and it will happen.

    Sandu, I really wish you would understand what SriVidya is saying. As you know, my inlaws are extremely abusive and crazy too (just like yours), and for a while, so was my husband. But he desperately wanted to change his ways and save our marriage... he was willing to do anything, even challenge his long held beliefs about his parents and their negative role in our life. ONLY because of HIS determination to change was our marriage saved. I had nothing to do with his change... it came from INSIDE him. Yes, I walked out a couple of times and fought for my rights to shake him up and make him see that I was suffering, but in the end it was HIS decision to change.

    Why I'm telling you this Sandu, is because if that inner strength in your husband isn't there... he will NEVER change. YOU can't make him change, just like I couldn't make my husband change. They have to want it for themselves. Another reason why I think he will not improve.... if he doesn't have love for his own sweet child, then how could he ever have love for you? Any man who could surround his child in an abusive environment and let his parents turn his little kid's house upside down, does not fully love his child. A TRUE DAD protects his kid from the world's troubles, not invite it in.

    Yes, there may have been happy times in you home. But are a few happy times here and there worth this never ending turmoil? Are a few happy moments worth a TON of psychotic outbursts from your dh and mil? Also, you need to stop just thinking of YOURSELF and start thinking of your kid too. She doesn't deserve to be brought up in the environment you've kept her in.

    Things in your husband's family will never change for you, because to them, you are like an item at Walmart with a life long return policy. At the drop of the hat, they will always try to ship you back from where you came and look out for a new item girl to marry their son to. If YOU were the one causing problems Sandu, you could fix this situation. But you're not the problem girl. THEY ARE.
     
  7. pingme

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    Sandu, I have a suggestion but this may backfire if he passes this to your inlaws.

    If you have any good friend, call them and ask them to talk to your husband when you are there and also in your absence. Stop pretending you are happily married couples, attending parties and dinners. You need friends now to help you on this. Your dh is not willing to read what ILites have to say, he will never ever listen to your parents and it is not right to ask your parents to talk to him. He will take this as a big EGO issue and problems will escalate. Your siblings also same as your parents.
    So, leave your family in this. Now, consult friends. Tell them you need help and he is not willing to go to counseling. Maybe, he may never be willing even after friends talk but atleast your friends can do some kind of counseling to him and show him how they all are living peacefully.


    My best suggestion at this time to you is approach friends. Again, your friends should be able to convince him in not passing this talk to his parents. If he does that, then you are in worst state than now. Your inlaws blaming you for dragging this onto the streets.

    I mean, anyway they are blaming so why not take this chance too. Call friends and ask for HELP!
     
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  8. Priya16

    Priya16 IL Hall of Fame

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    This is my experience with friends.
    Unless you have close friends who really care for your family wellbeing,no other freinds would interfear in the wife and husband business.
    If you have close friend and also close to your husband who he can listen then it may be good idea to explain the situation.
    But in US most of the times ,we have friends juts for the sake frinedship and get togethers and nothing much helpful by posting your problems over there.
    So you need to be very careful who to discuss and whom not to discuss about the family.
     
  9. sandu

    sandu Bronze IL'ite

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    Thanks for all your suggestions. I have just looked for yoga classes in my area and started enquiries. Must somehow squeeze it into my schedule... Ironically, my husband was suggesting my mil go to yoga classes to improve her health!

    And yes, the idea of agreeing to parties only if he agrees to meet a counsellor is good. Will try it out.

    Riya123, thanks for sharing your cousin's story. Gives me some hope. I am afraid to try separation for 3 reasons -
    (a) our situation didnt improve much after we tried it 2 years back - big story, dont want to say it again here now. Lots of relatives interference and we cudnt speak freely. More confusion.
    (b) if I leave him here alone, his parents freely influence him all the time. Out of sight, out of mind.
    (c) what will happen to my job?


    Srividya, ASG and others,
    I completely agree that he should realise his mistake... am looking for ways to give him that push. Thats why I thought some third-party like a counsellor would help. But that also seems difficult now... I dont really bother whether he tells it to his aunt or mother or others now... I need to do something. Would you think it will help if I go to counselling alone??

    Pingme and Priya, you have read my mind! Yes, roping in friends is my current thought. But I have problems there. As it is, all our Indian friends are his colleagues and their wives, none of them my own friends. The lawyer friend I called is also the wife of his colleague. Problem is - they are all younger than us - recently married and no kids. i know just this lawyer friend and one other lady. I dont know if they will be willing to advise my husband. If they do agree, we can try it. But my husband must be willing to listen. Already, he (&his mom) used to say often that ours is an arranged marriage and only our parents will solve our problems. Now, if I suggest this couple, who had a love marriage, I am pretty sure he will not accept their views. But, still, if he doesnt agree for counselling, I can try this method.

    There are other older couples - but we are not good friends and they are much higher up the corporate ladder.

    I am going to talk to him again about the counsellor today. If he refuses, I will have to speak to that couple and ask them if they are ready to talk to him...
     
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  10. pingme

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    I have another idea for you which I came across recently. If you have not heard or tried, pls give this a try.

    Whatever you have written here, write the same thing in a letter form addressed to your husband and mail it to him or put it in a place he will see. Do this in the weekend. Place it where he will see and you go out.

    Write everything from the bottom of your heart and how you want to save this marriage and how much he means to you and your daughter. Also, write how much you respect his parents and are willing to take them back in your life if they treat you good and all other things you can think of.

    Pls try this.
    Pingme
     
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