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  1. aniya

    aniya Senior IL'ite

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    I live outside India with my husband and toddler son. My parents live in India and they come down and stay with us for almost 4-5 months in a year, partially in the summer and partially in the winter. We stay in a large flat with a full-time maid, so basically their stay here is very relaxed. They do not have any work as such to do. They can rest, watch movies, go for walks nearby etc. Whenever they are here i try my best to take them out wherever i can but i felt over the years they actually do not want to go out too much. They told me particularly my mother than they are getting old and prefer to chill at home and go occasionally to the beach rather than go out to malls etc. I understood this so then started doing my own regular things, I am very busy in terms of my work, gym and other sports. However, issues still always seem to crop:

    -After this change i feel they are now complaining that i do not spend enough time with them. When i try to sit with them and ask them about their day or what they did, they complain a lot. They complain about everything and anything say the vegetables i bought were not up to the mark, why i should go and physically buy and not do online shopping, how my maid cooks badly and steals ghee etc. my son is not eating properly and healthy etc. Though i am okay to listen and improve this cannot be daily conversation. Most of the complains revolve around my maid who i agree is not the best but it is not easy to get a good and trustworthy maid meeting all the requirements.

    -The complaints are so much that one cannot sit in peace after coming back from work also. I feel when i take them out for lunch or shopping they are more at ease and there are less complaints so prefer spending time with them in such ways rather than at home. I try my best to be cool and ignore and never say anything but really difficult to have a normal conversation with them in such a scenario.

    -Interfering in where i go out and where my husband goes out. My husband does not like to be questioned when and where he is going.

    -Also forces me to buy a lot of stuff for the home (not for them) like kitchen stuff etc which i may not even need. I guess she wants to fulfill her dream of owning these things. I don’t mind spending but i don’t like to waste money and buy items we do not need and hoard stuff.

    -These things stress me out when Im trying to peacefully rest post work, its like when they see me sitting peacefully, they remember issues. So much so i avoid working from home even if I can. And its not like they are here only for 2-3 weeks then i can leave everything and focus on their visit and work from home and not go out etc. But when it's almost 4-5 months in a year to change the schedule so drastically gets difficult.

    Mostly my mother has anxiety and stress, and this is creating the issue but I’m finding it more and more difficult to manage the situation for myself and for my husband’s sake.

    Is anyone else experiencing such issues and best way to handle without hurting anyone sentiments and yet managing to hold our ground.
     
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  2. MalStrom

    MalStrom IL Hall of Fame

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    I think you have it right. It’s a combination of anxiety, stress and age.
    My mom can also be like this on extended visits, becoming very picky and critical about things that don’t seem to be such a big deal to me. We tend to keep a minimalistic house except for kid’s toys and stuff. My parents hold on to everything and as as result their home is stuffed to the gills. They think it’s odd to see so
    many empty surfaces in my home. They also complain that we buy too much for the child. I have to bite my tongue many times.
    One option would be to keep their visits shorter and more frequent if your finances and circumstances permit. For my folks, after 2 months is when things start becoming difficult. They want to spend time with us but they miss their home and routines and freedom of movement and it comes out as cribbing about things here. So we now don’t plan very long visits.
    You could also try to get them interested in some hobbies they can do at home. I got my mom into jewelry making. It was simple to order everything online and she made decorations for all their pooja dieties back home and also to give as gifts. My dad read books and I also got some jigsaw puzzles for him.
    To avoid them complaining about how we raise our child we started taking them to all the extracurricular sports classes, so they could focus on that.
    As for the rest, I either ignored it or told them that I didn’t have the time or inclination to cook a full banana leaf-spread like my mom and grandma used to. And I didn’t want to spend all my spare time cleaning and polishing what the weekly house cleaners do. It’s not perfect but we manage.
     
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    shyamala1234 Platinum IL'ite

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    Dear Aniya,
    Many parents complain like that after a couple of extended visits. They miss their home, way of living, surroundings etc. No logic behind it....but they do miss. The love to be with children, grandchildren , but at the same time they miss their home. Mixed feeling . That mixed feeling they expose in different ways. They understand the busyness of children, way of living, climate...still they complain. There is no definite solution. I appreciate you want them to be as comfortable as possible. But it is a win win situation. After going back they tell everyone how beautiful their trip was, how beautiful the country is and describe endless and on and on. Then they start missing children again and look forward to their next visit. It is a cycle.
    Syamala
     
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    Rihana Moderator Staff Member IL Hall of Fame

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    What you have described is quite common when parents visit their adult children abroad. My mother visited me many many years ago, and I am recalling many of the things you've described. And my friends who have their mothers visiting often have long vents to me in whatsapp. Like you said they can't help it and it's due to age, anxiety, stress. And a general decline in health, lack of social circle, relatives and being in a place that's not their home.

    Adding to what MalStrom has suggested, a couple of ideas:

    - You can't ask them to stop all the annoying behaviors. Maybe choose one, such as not to ask where you or your husband are going, and ask them to try avoiding that.

    - I think of all the things described the most draining can be that when you sit and talk in the evening they have a lot of complaints. If you can "manage" the topics that gets discussed at this time, the evenings can become more bearable and even enjoyable. Instead of talking about the day (maid steals ghee :grinning:), see if you can get them to talk about pleasant things from their past. This project can take a little bit of set up work from you in the starting but if it works out, it will start to take care of itself soon. There are audio memory recording apps. Some are free, and some have subscription. Make a list of easy non-controversial questions such as "Your first kitchen, college, bus rides, high school teachers, any pets you had, kitchen appliances of today compared with back then, first long train travel, best friend in high school, vegetable market." A good question for your mother would be about her day when children were at school. If she was working, how she balanced home and work.

    I started something like this recently and the only thing needed to buy was a "clip-on microphone set for dual interview." One of my cousins has taken up the project of recording such memories from all our surviving aunts and uncles. Audio files are easier to upload than video files, so only audio is recorded.

    Maybe your parents can record something like this in the day and you guys listen to it together in the evening. There are many lists of questions available online. We just scan old photographs with phone and have the aunts and uncles talk about those.
     
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    I am experiencing this on a daily basis, as I live in abroad with my old mom who is a widow.

    I have witnessed this pattern of complaining on a daily basis. I tried my level best to calmly respond to her complaints. At times, I too get carried away, and react. This can either hurt the person she complains against or herself if I think her complaints aren't valid.
    But, at the end of the day, it was me who lose the peace at home. Either mom or others (my husband, kids, some relatives or the maids) will have a long face and show counter actions.

    This is indeed too much for a working mother, who has a lot other things on her plate. Off late, I started suffering from stress and many other physical complications.

    Now that, I have decided to compartmentalize my problems. I know that I can't change an elderly woman who has millions of other problems, be it hormonal or physical or even emotional for her age and health issues. I am not a therapist, so I can't change her. But I can change the way how I react to her actions.

    First of all, an idle mind is devils workshop. I thought my mom needed complete rest at the age of 74. So, I never assign any tasks to her. I cook, and our maid cleans the house. My H takes care of laundry and kid's routines. Besides kids are grown up to take care of themselves. So, mom literally has nothing to do at home. She is bored at watching TV or sleeping all day. Perhaps, this is what making her so negative here.

    So, after a long discussion I understood that mom wants to cook. I let her cook by making sure cooking isn't difficult for her. With kitchen gadgets and the help of the maid, she is able to enjoy cooking so well.
    She isn't forced to cook, so she has the option to not to cook anything if she feels low. These days we order food from outside, and she is enjoying her control over our kitchen so well.

    I have also asked my kids to take her out, and show things around. They have a special way of bonding with grandparents. Mom finds it supper encouraging to learn new things with her grand kids on a daily basis. In fact, they have made her a tech savvy and she knows how to operate a laptop, take pictures with her mobile camera and send the same to her friends. She learnt whatsapp, FB and youtube only after coming here and quite enjoying this digital space.

    I also asked her to find time to teach my kids our native language as well as some native practices which they have almost forgotten after coming here. She feels valued, respected and important at our place. This gives her the needed security; hence a lot of positivity around.

    Assign some tasks to your parents, and appreciate them as they accomplish them in their own style. Remember, the purpose of assigning tasks to elderly parents is to entertain them and kill their boredom in such a way they feel important in your house. This will change the whole equation.
     
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    Yes, entrust some chore to them which they like and appreciate them when they do it. That would make them occupied. One of my friend's mother was interested in doing things on sewing machin and knitting. Her daughter bought her one sewing machine, some wool and knitting needles. She made sweaters for everyone in the family. Made a big shawl with croche
    Yes...involve them in a chore in which she has interest.Sewing, knitting or ask her to make one dish which you all like and appreciate it. They would be occupied.
    My friend's mother knitted sweaters for all of them. Because they feel bored at home....nothing else to talk...so they complain. Now they would talk about their hobby.
    Syamala
     

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