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  1. beautifullife30

    beautifullife30 Platinum IL'ite

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    Hi @mangaii

    Thanks for your reply.

    We are already a lawyer regarding this issue but so far he has not been much helpful.

    I am dealing with people who have lived in villages all their life. For the past 10 years, i tried dealing with them and they are giving me a run around. Me, my mom and sister were taken on a ride and no proper answers were given. And they cheated us out of a lot of money. My dad's cousin brother tried to intervene and help us but my dad's sisters family is creating a problem for him. So in the end, i had ot bring in my husband.

    And we actually discuss everything before reaching their house. The problem is my H sprouts nonsense once he goes there to apparently gain their confidence. My problem is why put me down to gain their confidence!?

    Ok, i am from AP. Trust me when i say this, i have never encountered a more corrupt goverment than the currrent government. The revenue department is the most corrupt of all. Forget about brokers, the Mandal Revenue Officer - MRO is directly asking me for a bribe to change the name on the property tax. and other issues. We actually have quite a list of things ot get done here. And guess what, he was talking about packages like a package deal to help sort these issues and asked us around 50-75K.

    The mango groove is now transferred under my mom's name but the house is the issue now. The land where the house is a DKT land given by government. The original papers are missing. One half of the land was given to my dad while the other half was given to my paternal grandmom.

    My paternal grandmom wrote off her share to my dad but exactly those papers are missing. The reason she did it because she stayed her entire life with my dad and my dad was the one taking care of her. We tried to get duplicate papers and guess what, the department is saying rats ate it away and if we pay around 30K they can consider checking for it. Then we tried to apply for entirely new papers quoting the same reason as they did that rats ate away the old papers and the current panchayat officer along wth MRO are saying that you can't create new papers like that since the property tax which should have been under my dad's name is currently under my aunt's name.

    So we questioned them how can they actually put my aunt's name under property or who changed the name on the property tax from my dad to auntwhen the legal heir is my mom and us, for that they are saying, some crooked fellow changed it, they dont know. Right now, since they are incharge, they will once changing it if my aunt agrees to write a NOC saying, she doesnt have any problem removing her name from the property tax and her sons should also sign the same.

    Now my aunt is saying, grandmom made a new will under which she also has a share in the mom's share of the property along wither her elder brother. So we told them, fine show us the paper but she says she doesnt have it but she knows about it. We told her we are willing to buy her share of the property if she considers selling it to us.

    But they are refusing to do that. Actually its a 12 cents land. So basically my dad's share is 6 cents. My grandmom's share is 6 cents out of which 2 cents goes for her; 2 cents for elder brother and 2 cents for my dad.

    My aunt is claiming her 2 cents right in the middle of the property. So we cant do anything with the rest of the land when she holds on to her bit of 2 cents right int he middle of the land.
     
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    Break it down and solve one by one
    First thing you do is give bribe and get original papers . I wouldn’t suggest this solution normally but your case you have no other choice . you don’t have original papers it is risky since anyone can produce a will and claim the property . I don’t want to scare you but your aunt might have some fake will . First get the original papers from revenue department . You can allow husband to talk to aunt for property tax and you work with officials to get the paper . Just so you know revenue department is corrupted in TN too . All they care about is money . But once you get original papers most of your problem is solved . Never ever go for negotiation till you have papers in hand . Never say that you are willing to buy her share now. Never show them they have power . It actually strengthens their side . Always act like you don’t need anything from them .
     
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    IS it? Thats the question i have been asking myself. I am just this close to giving it all up and throwing it away on their faces. But my mom cant fight this battle and my sister cant do it as well.

    The only reason i am doing this is because we lost a lot of things ot my aunt - right from all our things in the house to the cows that we owned to my dad's gold chains, to his panchangam books, to his bike...everything is gone. Only this house is left as a legacy to us as a family - me, my mom and my sis. When you put it in this perspective, yes maybe a compromise is worth it.

    Honestly tell me are you someone who knows me from my village. ITs like you can see the problems around me and are able to feel my hurt and anguish.

    Yes, they are. really they are. and it hurts to think that all that these people have today is because of my dad. and they would still choose to ruin us out of the little that we have than try and help us save it. Anyway, i guess its a fight i have to fight right....?

    childlike....sorry cant stop giggling. yes, on a larger perspective, it looks childlike only.

    I am really trying hard to ignore Rihana. really hard. i cant sleep in the nights thinking of how they keep tlaking to me. But yes, i have to toughen up a bit more i guess coz i have no choice but to face them again in the coming month. :sleepy:

    no i am not. I cant fight this battle. I tried ot but they squashed me down and tried to ruin me so i asked him to step in. Maybe i should start looking at the bigger picture and see that i get the house back. Honestly when i penned the post, i was in a confusion if i should let go of the property due to all these insults.

    But based on all your suggestions, looks like i should fight harder now and not give in to small, silly, ego clashes.

    Thanks, thats exactly what i wanted to know and hear.

    My husband is doing the same thing that you are advising but i was fighting with him on this and telling him that he was putting me down. He told me it doesnt matter and to look at the bigger picture and ignore these things as in the long run, no one would remember that you take out your frustation on your kids other than him and the kids.

    It just bothers me that the thing that the other person cares seeing put down is ME! :BangHead:
     
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    I am happy and thankful that he is doing all that he is doing for me.

    Yes, he tells me the same tha tit is a tactic.

    But again, when he talks all that he talks in front of them, it feels like a different thing. serioously it puts me in a different mode and i feel so alienated there. so lonely in that moment that i felt like crying but i bore it through.

    I know ra but why? they own more property. They have everything that they want. I havent asked for a single thing that they already took from us. What else is left with me to feel so threatened?

    Yes, we have finally discussed and taken this decision that i wont accompany him to their talks. I have let him have the run of the things and wont interfere.

    I guess i have to learn to bear it or scowl and bear it. its ok right....their opinions dont matter!
     
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    Make some inquires. Every place has lawyers who are connected and know the system. They know the right palms to grease and the same doors that are shut to you will magically open for them. Especially as you are an outsider you need someone like this. If you simply pay bribes on your own then you don’t know if you will get fooled or not.
     
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    haha...seriously i have to train my heart to stop feeling i guess

    This is so true and this is exactly what i kept doing.

    Not police ra. More like complaining on the revenue department regarding the illegal transfer of name pn property tax.

    Damn those idiots were out to beat me when i went alone last to last time So i involved my husband. No way ra, i cant go alone and handle these stuff alone.

    That we are doing. every single call, every single dialogue, every single meeting is recorded.

    I hope truth prevails ra. seriously.
     
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    This is the thing. They did it when my mom was down after dad was no more. and when i was busy with my immediate family my kids were young and my husband was also not very supportive back then.

    And the thing is they did it because they knew the person on the inside and got it done with just a copy of her aadhar card and saying that they had no clue of our whereabouts ie my mo mor me. This was apprently done when the property tax was being converted to online mode from offline mode..the first itme process. So the people here could manipulate it in any way.

    Now that it is an online process for the last 4 years, they are demanding for a lot of documents to support my case instead of proving clarity on how they could just add her.
     
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    We did. We bribed the revenur department around 40K to get this done. And the MRO promised to change it on our name and guess what...he got transferred and now there is a new MRO and he wants 70K.

    Thats why we are tryign so hard to get the papers in order.

    This is something we already expected her to have and claim.

    this is what we have been trying for the past 3 months here in the village.

    We did this mistake and now they are acting as if they can rule over us. Damn.
     
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    We already paid around 40K for the land; 5K for the ration card; 40K for changing thename to previous MRO who took the money and got transfeered and the new MRO now wants 70K more!
     
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    Thankyou Swetha. ITs just everything is a mess and i dont know why my husband does it or maybe when he says its a small thing ignore, i find it hard to ignore these small bits and look at the bigger picture.
     
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