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Discussion in 'Married Life' started by aamrapali, May 8, 2017.

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  1. aamrapali

    aamrapali Gold IL'ite

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    Read all your responses since my last post. I really do not want to drag this thread on and on - it must have gotten pretty boring by now. Plus I see a lot more new posts out there awaiting responses. So here goes....

    On physical intimacy: To clarify - we are not living together in hatred, repulsion, bitterness, unable to simply stand one another. We have a "normal" life in the sense that we cook, watch TV, movies, help one another out with domestic chores, go to work, shop, travel - but.... 100% of it is driven by me. The "normal" life or lifestyle is what I created from changing this house with a bare brick and walls to a beautiful home, making it a point to travel, travel, travel at every opportunity, every government holiday, movies, music, dance, arts, museums, laughter, jokes... I brought life into this marriage until a few days ago when it snapped (of course, there have been previous arguments about this). So... physical intimacy was also a part of the normal life. When I said "no issues in that area" I meant he has normal libido as a healthy male, he is as interested as a man of his age and health should be, like every woman I have my on days and my off days. And yes, many many times I brought up this fact that "you come to the bed only for this, you have'nt said a word to me all day long." This is one area he has no issues initiating.

    I cannot speak to other cultures or the newer generation, but for someone my age and stage and Indian upbringing, marriage is considered important for the one or more of the following reasons:
    * A companionship since parents, siblings, friends will all drift away, the one person that remains with you till the end is your spouse.
    * Children - still the only legitimate healthy way to bring a child into this world and raise one.
    * Money - financial security, especially for most women since even the most educated ones after a period of time settle to raise a family. Heck, even Michelle Obama and Kiran Rao (Khan) are considered role models for housewives who stay-at-home and raise kids.

    So sometimes when I look at my marriage, where do I fit:
    Companionship - Negative
    Children - Negative
    Money - may be partly me, partly him - I just don't feel that security that he will watch out for me in old age although he has assured me of it. When there is no overall trust in other factors and have felt let down in a couple of major events in life, hard for me to count on this. In fact, I am afraid to count on this.

    I think 30-60 minutes phone calls once a week to India to either one of our families is reasonable. I do the same. But I am equally if not more talkative to my husband too. On the contrary, he talks to his folks but not me. What he talks - I don't know. We do not speak the same language ("Pun intended!").

    I agree on all the practical advice to continue like this in a cold (not even lukewarm!) relationship but the "sensitive side" of human nature is the most hard to kill. Maybe it will die on its own - a slow painful death. Isolation is a very painful feeling. Recently I read somewhere that "isolation" is the #1 form of bullying. I am isolated in a foreign country, isolated by my husband, isolated by my in-laws, somewhat distant with my folks... so maybe it is a cumulative effect. Some isolation is from external, some internal self-made not out of depression or any other complex, just a shy quiet introverted person. That is all. Anyway, I will stop this here otherwise we could go on and on and crash the servers.
     
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    Umanga Gold IL'ite

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    I don't understand why people get married. It seems to be the greatest source of depression and unhappiness on this forum.
     
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    harinideep Gold IL'ite

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    Sorry to ask . Answer if you like . I m asking to understand my sil as she tells same things .Now a days many guys are not talking mych bcoz of smart phones, games etc . If someone is addicted to gadgets , they might behave this way? Is he always with fone , laptop
     
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    Umanga Gold IL'ite

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    People go to gadgets because they are un-interested in the marriage, not the other way around.
     
  5. harinideep

    harinideep Gold IL'ite

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    I honestly feel that u can try marriagge counselling as,last try
     
  6. Momu2779

    Momu2779 Senior IL'ite

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    I feel so too that you should give it one more chance ...many women would want to be in your shoes.

    Even though initiated by you but your dh reciprocates and participates in all activities be it travelling or cooking etc.
    Many men would refuse to do even that..he might be close to his family and might have thought that eventually they would accept.

    But seeing their non acceptance might be troubling him because the main reason why my dh had become aloof was non acceptance from in-laws.Although how it'll help in the marriage is beyond my understanding but most men are like that.It's just that they are wired differently...give him a little bit of jolt from his routine life.

    If u can..plan a trip alone...u can state that u require some space in the relationship..spell out that you would like him to take initiatives.Although from my personal experience he might not have a clue that this non communication is troubling you so much.

    He might not change a lot but you can give it a try...the picture perfect man will always be elusive.Not just my dh but most men around have communication problems and trouble showing their emotions.
     
  7. Rihana

    Rihana Moderator Staff Member IL Hall of Fame

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    Most of the above must be happening together, not each doing it alone. That counts for a lot of companionship.

    Is the case in many households. If not for the woman's efforts, they would exist. The woman makes them live. If not for the woman, they would not go on vacations, would not celebrate events. Often, the woman is also the one who makes the man maintain contact with and call his parents, siblings to wish on special days. If you had kids, you would post here cribbing that husband does not help with kid's birthday party, just shows up like a guest, and you have to deal with cranky child, cake, guests, and how you were hungry and ate only after the party. Many women do 80-90% of the parenting themselves, while working fulltime.

    Agreed, you brought life into this marriage. He only goes along with your efforts - travels with you, etc. Does not initiate such things himself. Things could be better in this aspect, but you also have to remember that you did what you did for your marriage. You enjoy(ed) the results. He comes along, you have quite some independence in how you run your lives... these things count.

    After the initial 1-2 years, you must have realized that he is not putting in effort to bring life into the marriage. That is up to you only. You could accept that as a given and be the arranger of things in your marriage?

    All that travel and movies and you say companionship is negative? Yes, he is not the ideal companion, and does not talk (much?), but you have a partner with whom you have done some activities together. That counts for something. About the children, it is not clear why it is negative. About the money - what more do you want? You seem to be doing well, have a job, both have jobs?

    What is this security you are looking for? Financially, you have the ability to make some plans for your old age. He also will grow old with you. So, what is this watch out for you that you mention? You mean if you fall sick or something? And because in the past he was no there for you in major events., so...? We don't know what events these were and why he let you down. You have enough rapport with him to bring up this topic, and he responds, and assures that he will be there for you. While, your worries are valid, the picture is not so bleak.

    You've mentioned this multiple times.. that he talks much more to his family than to you. Don't compare. He talks less to you, yes that is an issue. But, how much he talks to his family need not be brought in. And, you must have brought it up with him also. Doesn't help.

    You are seriously dramatizing the issue. Slow painful death? Come on. Many would give anything to be in your shoes. You are a smart, articulate, financially independent woman. What is all this isolation you are talking about? Isolated in a foreign country? If you mean the U.S., then it is in your hands to not feel/get isolated. Isolated by in-laws? Other than talking to your husband, looks like they leave you pretty much alone? If that is isolation, then, it is a welcome isolation.

    You have one issue - a not-communicative husband. Is it big enough to consider ending the marriage. Yes, if you feel so. But, there are many marriages with one or two such issues. Into each marriage some rain must fall. The rain in your marriage is on par with the average rainfall in a contemporary Indian marriage.

    You can request IL_Admin to close this thread if you want.
     
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    ameesharma12345 New IL'ite

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    thats gr8 shreema86 ... love the way u think
     
  9. harinideep

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    Rihana has posted what ever i thought . Most men dont initiate anything . They r like male lions . Ll be lying down all day .atleast my hubby is like that
     
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    Mistt IL Hall of Fame

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    Well said!
     
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