Yama In The Guise Of Software

Dear Smt. Jayasala:

It is suspected but not confirmed as yet MCAS caused the Ethiopian Airline plane to crash because the pattern of dissent of this plane is identical to another plane crash earlier. They are waiting for black box analysis in France. However, many American pilots complained about the inadequacy of the manual before this accident while flying Boeing Max. No matter how much plane manufacturers boost their capabilities to produce almost negligible tolerance level in manufacturing quality, eventually it has to be flown by the human beings. Even fly by wire technology introduced by Airbus 320 had time delay before the onboard computer response while landing resulting in a plane crash in Bangalore.

It is easy to blame the pilot who can't defend himself. Thank God they pulled out all Boeing Max until the investigation completes. How can an operating manual be so lacking for the pilot to learn? How is it used commercially even before the manual is certified as complete? The manufacturers should pay as much attention they pay for manufacturing into documentation of the user manual.

Viswa

 

You are absolutely right. Once the accident takes place, the reason is immaterial. The concern of both the passengers and the family members will increase many fold. Too many things need to go right for anyone to fly safely.

Viswa

 

js42,
nice Yama story.
The heavy engines of the Max 737 would have required all the heavy passengers to be seated in row 20 and above... just to balance the plane. Like the old jutka's of India, where people would be asked to adjust where they sat to relieve the tension on the neck harness of the horse (or bull).

The obesity crisis in America (and the west) is supposed to take care of that.

That plane is unfit to fly in countries where people are svelte.

 

Very sad and depressing indeed - my heart goes out in sympathy to the bereaving families: lives commercialised - souls abruptly forced to depart in the morning 0855 hrs 6 minutes before pilot reported some glitches and was told to return to airport but craft exploded in midair 30 miles away over a mountain!
2. A great profound analysis madam sister wherein you had factored in circumstances behind the doors. Great questions in feedbacks. Hats off to IL’ites demonstrating their full empathy.
3. Upon reading and re reading the thread, I was impelled to think of an anecdote in Tight Schedule- Spouse, Rat & 'craft
4. I remember to have read in one of the compilations of questions - answer by Mother Of Auroville such disasters and catastrophe occurs when majority in the group carries negative aura. She attributed miraculous escape of persons in such serious accidents to their positive strong aura.
5. We heard of babies and men and women buried beneath rubbles in sudden collapse of mine or in an earthquake or under an avalanche for days on end and come alive.
6. I wonder of pilgrims returning in a bus from shrine escaped unhurt from terrorist attack. Also read the news descending pilgrims from visit to the hill top temple died in stampede.
7. Regardless of collective intelligence or negligence of personnel or lack of manual or dysfunctional software, Destiny and aura seemed to be entwined in deciding the fate of the group.
Thanks for timely post touching the heart of the matter.

God Bless us All Always & those perished in midair.

 

Very sad and depressing indeed - my heart goes out in sympathy to the bereaving families: lives commercialised - souls abruptly forced to depart in the morning 0855 hrs 6 minutes before pilot reported some glitches and was told to return to airport but craft exploded in midair 30 miles away over a mountain!
2. A great profound analysis be madam sister wherein she had factored in circumstances behind the doors. Great questions by feedbacks. Hats off to IL’ites demonstrating their full empathy.
3. Upon reading and re reading thread, I was impelled to think of an anecdote in Tight Schedule- Spouse, Rat & 'craft
4. I remember to have read in one of the compilations of questions - answer by Mother Of Auroville such disasters and catastrophe occurs when majority in the group carries negative aura. She attributed miraculous escape of persons in such serious accidents To their strong positive aura close to their skin . We heard of babies and men and women buried in sudden collapse of mine or in earthquake or under an avalanche.
5. I wonder of pilgrims returning in a bus from shrine escaped unhurt from terrorist attack. Also read the news descending pilgrims from visit to the hill top temple died in stampede.
6. Destiny and aura seemed to be entwined in deciding the fate ofthegroup irrespective of collective intelligence or dysfunctional software or the manual or the lack of it.
Kudos to madam sister for touching heart of the matter.
God bless us all & permit perished souls RIP.

 

When we read all of the confusion happened at10,500 feet above the sea level, it means it happened at 3,000 feet above the runway as Adis Ababa's runway is 7,500 feet above the sea level. The plane's average Nautical speed is approximately 250 miles but this particular plane did 450 Nautical mile in the run way before taking off. Within 3 minutes after take off, the pilot asked permission to return to the airport canceling all other takeoffs, the air traffic asked him to land immediately to the right as left turn would be flying above the city. Despite all that, the plane went out of radar and crashed quickly.

Ascension to 3,000 feet happened at a very steep angle according to the air traffic and within a minute. Normal 10,000 feet ascension takes about 10-15 minutes. I am always skeptical about NTSB inquiries and they always more focused on pilot error. But in this case, it looks like it is possible that he thought the plane was stalling when it wasn't. Commercial aircraft is not designed to take vertical take off like fighter planes. That might have caused the fatal crash as well. However, Boeing is fixing the software to fix their business issue of not selling Boeing 737 Max as they have too many orders pending.