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Tathastu (may Thy Wish Be Fulfilled)

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  1. HariLakhera

    HariLakhera Platinum IL'ite

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    Tathastu.(May thy wish be fulfilled )

    (Geeta- Chapter Three-Year Yoga of Action

    10. The Creator, having in the beginning of creation, created mankind together with sacrifice, said: "By this shall ye propagate; let this be the milch cow of your desires (the cow which yields the desired objects)".
    11. With this do ye nourish the gods, and may the gods nourish you ; thus nourishing one another, ye shall attain the highest good.
    12. The Gods, nourished by the sacrifice, will give you the desired objects. So, he who enjoys the objects given by the Gods without offering (in return) to them, is verily a thief.)

    Since then they travelled through Sat Yuga to Dwapar to Treta and are in Kali Yuga. God's blessings, notwithstanding, the decline in values and sacrifice started in Treta itself when Sita had to be exiled by Lord Rama. Her Agni Pariksha was nothing against the uncharitable words of a washerman. Lord Krishna punished the wrong doers in Dwapar. Lord Vishnu may reincarnate anytime soon as Kali to re- establish Sat Yuga. The cycle will continue.

    1. The God, Prajapathi, created the mankind and said to multiply (propagate) and flourish. They asked for His blessings and He said 'Tathastu' - may all of your wishes come true. They obeyed and settled themselves on mother earth and multiplied and multiplied and are still multiplying. The nature is not in a position to take so much of load.

    2. The another was Nourishing, meaning acquiring worldly objects of comforts by Karma. There was however a difficulty. It was not possible to acquire objects of comforts without depriving some body of his rightful rewards for the karma performed by him. So injustice, exploitation and extortion also took roots side by side. The guilt feeling was there but it was balanced with charity.

    3. The third was sharing with Gods. Here too was a difficulty. The God was not visible. Whatever was offered at His alter at the temple was found lying there only. So it became symbolic in the form of Ahuti- Om Swaha. Some saw opportunity here and built temples for Gods. Some crowned themselves as God. Some hired devotees to crown them as Gods.

    Tathastu has worked great for many.
     
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    Jeeves Silver IL'ite

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    That's a nice introspection.
    My grandma taught me to speak only positively always ( and I taught our children in turn, the same dictum )
    She would say, " The Ashwini Devathas will be hovering about always above us whispering ' Thadhaasthu ' , so never say anything negative."
    As for Lord Vishnu reincarnating again...I shudder to think of the humongous work He has in Kaliyuga !! To handle these criminal politicians alone, He would need two hands !!!:)
     
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    Very interesting! I have to read a couple of times more to grasp fully.
     
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    :hello:Yes a tad esoteric but re study will help. these are great testaments embracing all aspects of life.
    Regards.
     
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    According to google world population is 7.6 billion read by worldometer in US. it is increasing exponentially and according some Vedic schools of thought, the world would be burgeoning and bursting at seems in 2050 AD when Kalki incarnation of Vishnu would take place.
    2. world at present "Dog eats Dog" one Nation's Gain is Loss of another. Nations are becoming belligerent, jingoist and war mongering.It is perceptible. All for nourishment's sake.
    3. Kalki said to be arriving mounted on a flying horse of course with His entourage. the landing is expected in India.

    Let me say Tathasthu.
     
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    The word 'thathasthu' -Let it happen is stated to have been repeated by Ashwini Devathas, as one of friends has pointed out.
    Psychologically ,talking about good things creates confidence.Doctors asks the patients to repeat'day by day I am becoming alright' to alleviate the fear and infuse confidence in people.In July 2014 I wrote a snippet

    Are we living in kaliyuga?
    jayasala42, Jul 30, 2014 ... 2
    On reading the same, we may doubt whether we live in Kaliyuga or some other yuga.
    The question has not been raised now but as early as 19th Century.

    But historical evidences suggest that Rama ( tretha Yuga) lived somewhere 7000 years back , at about 5000 B. C.and Lord Krishna Krishna ( Dwapara Yuga) ascended to heaven around 3102 B. C,, a few years later than Mahabharatha war for which there exist many solid evidences.
    Shri Krishna had lived just 5000 years back in Dwapara Yugam.

    So the yugas running to lakhs of years might have been a misreprentation taking the years as divine years and multiplying them into 360 for converting into human years.

    This discussion came into focus in 19th century itself and many books have been written on the subject as early as 1894.


    The Research has been undertaken by the International Society for the investigation of Ancient civilization headed by Prof ' K. Srinivasa Raghavan, V.G. Ramachandran , Sampath Iyengar and great Tamil scholars like Sunder raj who have done extensive Research on the basis of history , astrology and astronony.

    Therefore the questions have been raised by great Historians, pundits, and Research scholars who had studied the puranas , mythological texts as well as the history thoroughly and not superficially as many would have done in schools.

    Good things and bad things happen always. There were demons like Ravana in Tretha yuga, kamsa in Dwapara yuga. Even earlier during Narasimha Avatar there have been bad elements in the society harassing their own children due to Ego.
    My view point is we have to be open minded for discussions based on scientific and historical findings and not to set aside them with a myopic view.

    Whether one wants to accept it as Dwapara Yuga or continue with the name of Kaliyuga for lakhs of years is left to oneself.
    But let us cultivate positive thoughts and await prosperous things to happen.

    Jayasala 42
     
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    Dear Jeeves,
    The blessings for flourishing, nourishing and sharing were given in good faith. As the saying goes, after creating the universe, God has gone into deep slumber leaving the job to the Preserver Lord Vishnu and Destructor Lord Shiva. As grandma said, no negative talk, not even in whispering. But then He knows everything what we are thinking. It's thinking that leads to,action.

    Incarnation as Kali will definitely be for the end of the universe so that the cycle may be repeated. May be He will simply raise His right hand and say Tathastu.
     
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    Geetaji,
    Lord Vishnu is the preserver. He is shown in a sleeping posture in Vaikuntha
    but that does not mean he is sleeping. He is watching. Lord Shiva, the destructor is possibly waiting for instructions from Lord Vishnu for the final call to destroy everything. Lord Vishnu himself will come as Kali.
    We are saying this because we see lot of people disobeying Lord Brahma's instruction on flourishing, nourishing and sharing. This is similar to spending hours and hours in reading holy books, listening to religious preachers and doing exactly the opposite. I know it was always like that. I know all yugas- Satyuga, Treta, Dwapar and Kaliyuga have coexisted as do sin and virtue. May be it will give some solace.
     
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    Dear Thaygarajan,
    Long live Google baba ! Yes the landing will be in India only where else? Muslims and Christians will not give permission for landing in their spaces. Already North Korea is threatening America with missiles. Who knows every body will think Kali is a North Korean or American nuclear missile and try to destroy it in the air only.
    Amen.
     
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