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Supreme Court Verdict On Section 377- My Understanding.

Discussion in 'Snippets of Life (Non-Fiction)' started by GeetaKashyap, Sep 9, 2018.

  1. Minie34

    Minie34 Bronze IL'ite

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    Everyone has the right to love whoever they choose to love. Being in love is no crime.
     
  2. GeetaKashyap

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    @Minie34,
    Thanks for being here and airing your opinions. I agree with you totally.
     
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    Very eloquent way to present what is right.
     
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    @GeetaKashyap @Thyagarajan @kaniths ...and all supporters


    "Unless they are loud, they may not get a chance in this cruel world. Sometime back, I read that the metro in Tamilnadu tried to hire them in large numbers. But the locals were unhappy and refused to rent them houses etc. Finally in frustration, they quit the jobs and went back to their traditional ways. In between there were reports that some banks tried to hire them for loan recovery!"


    ---- sometimes i feel if we should be called "humans" or not ....it seems we dont hv any humanity left ...i just dont get it ...i m a liberal by heart ..and i was a liberal (and i dont know why it is a bad word for many) when i was just 5 - 6 year old ...since then i hv bn amazed at people's illogical and irrational thinking .. even during childhood whenever i saw eunuchs in trains i used to ask why cant railway give them job ..why theyve to beg ??
    but ALAS ...i think people like geeta thyagrajan kanith etc and i are in minority .... do u think we r born way ahead of time it seems we belong to future generation lol lol ..
     
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    GeetaKashyap IL Hall of Fame

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    I agree with you. This world is made up of all kinds of people. If only we become a little more tolerant, we can easily practice the live and let live policy and have win-win situations.
     
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    The partial annulment of archaic and colonial made law adopted as IPC 377 is a great victory for not only LGBTQ BUT TO ALL INDIVIDUALS as jurisprudence now held the privacy including sexual orientation is above religion & State.
    2. The government may do away with “column” in applications asking for marital status . If G & L are employed they may perhaps not seek maternity paternity leave as privilege and there energies channelised in the mainstream of society, may result in increase in output and enhance GDP.
    3. While returning home from office on the last working day of August 1978, when my collected salary by cash kept in my echolac office brief case, was waiting to board into a approaching double decker BEST bus but moving crowd pushed me down - bus and crowd left. When I regained consciousness, I was lying on a broken long wooden bench and one of my saviours was gently applying some country thailam on my swelled left knee and thigh.

    When I slowly realised what had happened to me, one was showing opening my echolac close to me said all contents strewn out were gathered and put back into the box including the thick government brown long envelope.

    As I was expecting return of my spouse from her office around that time, I thanked those samaritans offeredsome money which they not only refused but arranged for an yellow cab escorted me right upto my quarters at 4th floor where my son of 3 years climbed stairs behind us showing concern and sat by my side touching and wondering the swell on my knee and thigh.
    The great samaritans were tamil-speaking eunuchs at Sion Koliwada.

    My wife was surprised along with neighbourhood when they came next day enquiring my status and when they were told that I was in hospital at Dadar, the samaritans visited at at hospital with fruits.
    I was in tears and sobbing looking at them. The doctors too!
    Thanks and Regards.
    Gods help can come in numerous forms and ways that include samaritans as above.
     
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    This should be their USP!

    That's a nice anecdote, Thyagarajan Sir. (It has the full potential to be a snippet.)
    Thanks for highlighting their humane side.
     
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    @friendabc THANKS for tapping LIKE option evidencing your liking it.
    Regards.
    God Bless all which includes LGBTQ too.
     
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    Thank you for this post. This is such an important and relevant post at this time. I am glad the Indian Judiciary finally had the good sense to strike down this utterly cruel and discriminatory law. I hope this will pave the way for people to change their mindsets and open their minds about alternate secual identities.

    Growing up in Madras, even though my parents did not specifically identify as conservative and having a pretty liberal upbringing, just the atmosphere never allowed us to think about sexuality in general, so alternate sexuality and sexual identities were not even a concept!! I did not even know of the existence of people who could have same-sex attractions until I was 20 or so and heard the words "Gay and Straight" in the context of sexual identities for the first time at my first job, and even that in a derogatory reference to someone. I did not give it a lot of thought until later, when it becamse an issue that started coming out more in the mainstream.

    It wasn't until I watched a debate om NDTV about Sec. 377 where the guests were religious figureheads who were openly calling out the panelists challenging Sec. 377 as deviants and abnormal that truly opened my eyes to just how cruel and vicious we humans can be to others who are not like us and what a skewed and small view of "normal" we all possess. When I found out via social media a boy I went to school with identified as gay, I was shaken. Shaken to think of the turmoil and the pressure he would have gone through, trying to understand himself, unable to express himself, growing up and going to school like ours, a school that would give days off for Avani Avittam and start school late on Gayatri Japam days!! I couldn't imagine how out of place he would have felt!

    This has got to be one of the most heart-breaking things I have ever come across -

    Last Words Of AMU Professor Who Was Driven To Death For Being Gay

    Prof. Siras who was pushed to suicide by bullying for merely experessing himself sexually. Something that the rest of us can take for granted.

    I watched a documentary called "For the Bible tells me so" that documents struggles of gay people that grew up in ultra conservative Christian households and the struggles of Clergymen who identified as gay. A pertinent point that was made in that documentary was that we often refuse to see gay people beyond just the act of sex, as people who are just like anyone else, who want to form loving relationships and bonds.
     
  10. GeetaKashyap

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    Thanks for this sensitive feedback, dear @peartree. As you rightly pointed out, while growing up, we knew only male, female and the third gender which was an enigma; we laughed when at a distance but were very scared of them at close quarters. Somehow we never perceived them as humans!

    It was only later through the internet we got to learn a lot about the LGBTQQIAAP or the LGBTQIAPK! I am sure a few more alphabets would be introduced to the above list!

    I too wonder often as to how these kids survive and struggle to establish their identities. I feel sorry for them especially after watching a few videos on YouTube. Yes, Professor Siras did suffer a lot. I happened to watch the movie "Aligarh" based on his life and his character was so sensitively portrayed by actor Manoj Bajpai.



    As a society, we have to be more tolerant and sensitive.
     
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