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Discussion in 'Relationship With In-Laws' started by drnamshara, Sep 6, 2014.

  1. drnamshara

    drnamshara Gold IL'ite

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    Hi all...

    All your advises have been like the best mind medicine I have received in bringing
    about the due transformation to my life for the past 2 months...I am here again..

    Last time my FIL was unwell I went and visited him at the clinicand did my bit without having to go to in-law home.
    Now again I am having a dilemma.
    Next week happens to be FILs fathers death anniversary ceremony. FIL is expecting me badly to be a part of the ceremony as he wants to feel that I am a part of his family!! DH is pressurizing me a lot to come down to the temple for the ceremony lunch at-least and go back.
    DH never attends such ceremonies! But I insisted that I will think over (till i take the IL forum advises ;)) and let him know, provided he also assures of attending the function.

    But facing the MIL woman is like salt on wounds.
    DH has gone for his weekend visit, and when I explained to DH over the fone that I will be stressed if I come please do not force me, he got raged!!!!
    He accused me of escaping from all family events in the past 2 months and asked me how long I will keep the "grudge" on his mom and if for r a lifetime I will not go to his parents home...I told him I may for go to his home some day in future for his Dads sake, but not mom.
    He said i cannot do that way as mom will always be with dad.
    I am kind of deeply pained to think that he expects me to forget it all!!!!!!

    If so Why dont I leave him also he said..................
    I was taken aback by these words!
    Of late we have been having a lot of tiff regarding religion, ritualistic rules, feminism etc., but we deal with them fine by the next morning...

    My concern now is that DH dosnt realize that its is not GRUDGE over his mom, but the PAIN caused by her which makes me stressed to see her face! How can he conclude this way???? I am more hurt thinking about this!

    More importantly,
    1. should I go to the ceremony and prevent anger from DH and an upset FIL?
    2. If I go, then how do I behave with the MIL woman or behave in general??
    DH will expect that I speak!! I am so shaken and nervous!!
    I need my words ready even if FIL asks me to visit home!

    Helpppppp :help
     
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  2. yellowmango

    yellowmango IL Hall of Fame

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    The ceremony is in a temple so don't worry. Tell your husband you will go with him .
    Go there and do your bit like you did at the clinic.
    Be normal with your mil....respectful but formal.

    As for his comment about holding a grudge...just tell him you are only trying to protect yourself from future abuse because you have seen how neither he, nor his father can protect you from his mom , when she is abusive.Just tell him you are trying to protect yourself and thus prevent further erosion of relationship.

    Try not to bring up topics that lead to conflict between you two.If he brings up the topic...just change it or tell him you want the two of you to be happy during your five days. Do things together.

    Your fil is being naive in trying to get you involved in some or the other function on some pretext.It is not like he doesn't know her or hasn't seen what has happened. He is either too naive or just taking advantage of his illness.

    It is surprising that the sons can become non believers without any problems but dils have to take part in every ritual.If they can't get their own son to take part...why expect mandatory dil presence?


    1)Go provided your husband will go too.
    2)Behave normally.With respect but formally.
    3)If father in law asks to visit...tell him neither he or your husband can protect you from her fury ,so you will decide when it is safe to visit that place.Say it firmly but respectfully.If he insists...tell him you have come to the temple because of your love and respect for him.If he insist on your coming home....you will feel he doesn't care about your respect and safety.If he can use emotions ....so can you.
     
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    god2014 Gold IL'ite

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    I don't know the back ground of your pain with mil, still after reading this i am putting my view. Not for the sake of anybody, no dh or fil, just for the sake of you visit the function. Always we don't go people forget us, so we must attend such functions if invited.
    What ever fight may be, don't let your individual pain affect your h and w relation. Be normal, no grudge or pain. Think that you shake hands with strangers on meetings at office, even if an enemy is invited, if official we do it for the company, personal issues apart, same rule its personal, common sacred ceremony so attend as dil.

    If you skip, people will begin to think some mistake on your side or you are afraid to face mil so she never comes or she disrespects her husband or many more...

    My mom is a best example, if invited she goes though she dislikes some one, also as dil she stands first in all auspicious and death ceremony to take the leadership, otherwise she never talks to my granny, though my granny is staying with my mom. She takes good care still only if needed she opens the mouth else she does her duty of dil. So please go.
     
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    memeera1234 Gold IL'ite

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    I think you should go attend the ceremony. Just do your part not for anybody else but for your own good. Atleast your DH wont get a chance to point fingers on you during any petty fights :).. Regarding how to behave with MIL, as yellowmango said, behave normally, with respect but be formal at the same time. I am used to behaving this way withy MIL whenever I go to her place..:)

    Keep calm..everything will be fine.
     
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  5. drnamshara

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    OMG!!!!! These words are so much full of strength YM.... Like some verse from The Geeta or something!!! Holy and lifesaving!!
    I guess just these words have given me enough strength to express to hubby when i any such situation!!
    You rock maam...thanx a million

    :Bow::Bow:
     
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    By going to the function...you actually win. So go get the trophy :)
     
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    yellowmango IL Hall of Fame

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    drnamshara[teacher mode on]....next time you will come up with the words and we will correct them if needed[teacher mode off].

    :)
    dear Op.....The advice you are getting is not just advice from dils about an abusive mil.I hope you and some men who visit here realize that this is just advice to a victim to face an abuser.If you can let everyone around know that you will not take abuse lying down and are willing to stand up to her...you will probably end up bettering the lives of your fil and your husband too. Those too have been desensitized to her abuse and want to probably give her the carrot for some short time good behavior ,little realizing that it has not worked for their life time.If she does not get her way with you...maybe she will change for the better. If that happens...it will be good for her too. Fingers crossed.
     
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    op,

    please find it in your heart to show some compassion and magnanimous feeling towards h's family. I feel your situation is very different from the typical dil in this forum. Unlike them the point that you were being abused, and victimized has already been recognized ( within less than an year of marriage!) and dealt with. You have effectively moved out and stopped even the weekend visits. As of now you are not an abused dil. You have won. Your daily life is no longer a living hell. What more do you want?

    As a dil, you still have some duties towards your h family which you are being asked to do. so just do them. Asking you to attend a pooja or a death ceremony is not abuse. Dont make a big issue of these very reasonable requests. Why are you still using the mil card again and again to avoid them? When mil issues has been dealt and is no longer a daily issue, then to constantly invoke her would seem, like you are holding a grudge against her. You cant will her out of existence. If you continue like this I think you will end up turning your h against you and go back to square 1. Is that what you really want?
     
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  9. drnamshara

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    Yo ladies...I am all set...Read all the views and pondered on them...

    Absolutely...As long as I am not forced to come home, I guess its not such a bad thing to be a part of DH important family ceremonies..He has been by my side by helping us relocate..and thus preventing daily abuse is a big thing in itself..
    Now the focus would be to keep him in good humor :)

    I have thought of these:

    1. I will reach exactly by the lunch time ONLY-as DH himself said so!! :p :p

    1. Will breath in breath out and give a half smile when i 1st encounter her at the temple...
    (only need to put a STOP on the unleashing pain in my mind, of the eventful day abusive face of her coming back in full audio-visual mode. HARD PART because me an DH know that she is expecting me to apologize and mend things!!! and that annoys more!)

    2. Will not initiate any conversation- (lest she concludes--LIKE EARLIER TIMES---that it was a random MIL-DIL event on the pass, and that I have forgiven, forgotten n all is hunky-dori......as has always been with her and her son n husband following every such abuse she gave them-as yellowmango pointed out)

    3. Will either focus on the pooja-if it is still on--
    (or dig myself into reading something on my tab or a real holy book.....on second thoughts, as tab was DHs recent gift and they dunno about it...and as she knows that I have a petty pay and cant afford gadgets, she will mentally get into "my sons money" mode!! So better avoid now and in future i guess...)

    4. Will have a word or 2 with FIL if I get a 'me-fil' time..
    (do the health follow up...he has suddenly stopped SMSing me! Need to know if he is fine..)

    5. Say I have an appointment with a client by early evening and leave asap...


    6. If FIL brings up a talk on me coming home for Dussera or Diwali...for the moment I will just say that I will surely think over it and tell him...
    (dont want to outright say NO!)

    Are these alright? Am I prepared enough? Any sub-suggestions? :)
     
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    Have a song/bhajan/sloka ready and keep chanting it constantly!!

    It will keep your mind off the audiovisual replay and also keep you calm.

    Better to take a holy book (Vishnu Sahasranama or Bhagavat Gita) than a gadget - it would give her more reason to attack - how can you immerse yourself in a gadget while a serious death ceremony is going on - best is Bhagavat Gita - keep looking into it and keep turning the pages.

    Dont have eye contact with her after the first hello ! If she asks you anything directly, answer politely but as minimum as possible.

    Do go this time, it is in a public place, you are a bit safe. And you'll earn some points from DH for "trying to forgive"

    If you feel that some abuse will start, you will have places to walk away to !! Go to the venue in advance to check and plan of a place where you'll escape to, if the abuse starts.

    If its a temple, say I'm going for darshan or pradakshina or prasad! If it is a hall, act like you got a phone call and leave for "better reception of signal"

    I would suggest you to HAVE LUNCH (or a sandwich) and go, so that you can walk away if she starts off her dialogues while lunch is going on !!!

    But do try and use the period card during the dussera!! Dont go to her house!

    Dont say anything right away, be noncommittal if they invite you, - say hmmm ok ok - DH cant accuse you of holding grudges but "get your period" just the morning you both leave home!!!
     
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