Never Mind.....

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  1. Ouroboros

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    @Amulet

    OK, this is the last of my 'Wyrd Sisters' citation:

    The duke often mused on his good luck in marrying her. If it wasn’t for the engine of her ambition he’d be just another local lord, with nothing much to do but hunt, drink and exercise his droit de seigneur. -- Wyrd Sisters, Terry Pratchett's sixth Discworld novel, 1988

    ..reminded me of that recent "congress" with "divine" post in this thread. That congress manifests in the western droit de seigneur which is interesting because of: First Knight

    And more interesting because of:

    After their travels in Scotland in 1773, Samuel Johnson and James Boswell documented the custom of the payment of merchet, linking it with the "right of first night". They paralleled it with that custom of Borough English, suggesting that the English custom favored the youngest son because the paternity of the eldest son was doubtful.

    which leads us to:

    Ultimogeniture, also known as postremogeniture or junior right, is the tradition of inheritance by the last-born of a privileged position in a parent's wealth or office. The tradition has been far rarer historically than primogeniture (sole inheritance by the first-born) or partible inheritance (division of the estate among the children)
    This is why Terry Pratchett's works should be read in schools for such elliptical, nevertheless, educating trail.
     
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    More than arm's length my native language instinct abraded by a whale's fluke over circumstances, though not to depersonalize anyone.

    • At the age of three, visitors to my home exulted my voice, she has silvery native voice, so sweet, another chandamama song, baby boots (100% native tongue).
    • Then by age ten, in a multicultural milieu and not to alienate kids from other states, English was rampant (70% native tongue).
    • Then you grow up and date-woot men and in a country like India with 29 states and 7 union territories, you recite all those sweet nothings in English (50% native)
    • Then settle abroad (20% native).
    • Not to alienate the kids of siblings in telephone calls/speaker calls/Skype calls, again English takes over (5% native).

    Today, that 5% is while talking to my parents back home. Friends, siblings, colleagues, next generation, potential men, rejected men, maybe men, IL, Amulet, it's English, well, influenced by circumstances more than a willful fancy or the 'arm's length' artifice.
     
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    At first, reading that first sentence, I thought that "winking" was a misspelt word, and refers to the offensive, unwanted thing was something many NYC subway riders may have suffered. All that jazz about "makes someone feel intimidated or humiliated’ (my emphasis)" sort of added the right gusto to my guess.

    And then the thicker font (your writing) told me that it was indeed a wink.:facepalm:

    Your "why Terry Pratchett's works should be read in schools" would work, if they were in school libraries, and students discover them on their own. Kids have a way of passing on such information to their friends/contacts.
     
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    @Ouroboros :
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    Thanks for the wikipage link. Nice painting. That old man looks like a grandpa for the girls, not the father.
    Thanks for that personal history. Your way (parents versus everybody else) also signals different "distances" for parents, and everybody else.
     
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    That distance is two-fold. Usually kids talk to parents in "informative" followed by "immersive" tone.

    Informative: Mom, I am doing this. I love you, love you so much.

    Immersive: Mom, I want to do this. What do you think? Would you approve? What are your thoughts? Would you agree? Would you still love if I do this? Would you still support me if I do this? Would I still be your child and you my mom and our relationship undented if I do this? What do you advise? What do you wish for me?

    Preferring the former to the latter, I foreclose on the latter and don't burden my folks to coax my cultivated ideology out of their comfort roots. It is ridiculous to endanger their neurons over my temperament which is rather evolved from their generational needs. If I start explaining myself, they would get too confused.

    To that 'informative' call, my parents always respond: love you also loads. But if it had been "immersive", they will be frightened of my threadbare pronouncements and panic and upset their systole and blood pressure. Kai ko itna tension?
     
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    I slotted both "never mind" and "tin chombu" in that absurd skit.
    (Lady, such creativity deserves both Emmy and Tony awards, hurray)
     
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    @Ouroboros,
    Good girl you are.
    Very nicely categorized as informative and immersive.

    Like a "Mission Impossible" directive, here is your new mission:
    Inform while immersed.
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    Agent Ouro's report:

    It is an important and popular fact that things are not always what they seem. For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much –the wheel, New York, wars and so on –whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man –for precisely the same reasons.

    Curiously enough, the dolphins had long known of the impending destruction of the planet Earth and had made many attempts to alert mankind to the danger; but most of their communications were misinterpreted as amusing attempts to punch footballs or whistle for titbits, so they eventually gave up and left the Earth by their own means shortly before the Vogons arrived. The last ever dolphin message was misinterpreted as a surprisingly sophisticated attempt to do a double-backwards-somersault through a hoop whilst whistling the ‘Star Spangled Banner’, but in fact the message was this: So long, and thanks for all the fish.


    "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy" by Douglas Adams


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    Surely, the 'aw blah es span yol' just meant another of the "So long, and never mind the fish" signal before they evacuated Earth from the impending Vogon rampage.
     
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    Once upon a time Kurt Vonnegut explained the anatomy of a story. With an illustration of the plot line as the story goes forward.



    I know several stories in the "man in the hole" model. I had even written a story in the model "boy gets girl". I always wish the children to go out there and reach off-scale happiness.
     
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